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Series Thread: Eastern Conference Finals: 1) Cleveland Cavaliers (57-25) vs. 2) Toronto Raptors (56-26)

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I think we'd beat Memphis and Dallas.
I don't think so just my opinion. Again the theory still doesn't work because in most likely case they would play GS, Spurs or OKC in the 1st rd and they wouldn't get past them.
 

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No way in hell. only team is Houston. The problem with your theory is they would of never played because Atlanta or Toronto would of been a 7th or 8th seed.

So you're saying Toronto would have lost 14-15 more games if they played in the West? That's funny. Toronto would have been a top 5 seed in the West. Same goes for Atlanta. They had a much higher win % against the West than the East.

I don't people really understand this was a down year for the West. When the 5th seed in your conference is a 44-38 team, that tells you a lot about that conference. After the Clippers the West had a pretty significant drop off
 

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The West had two 42-40 teams make the playoffs and also a 41-41 team. The West was not good this year after those top 4 teams
Ok so u just said they would be a 5 seed. So at #5 they would of played #4 and like I said wouldn't get out of the 1st rd. In the East they are in the ECF. Big Difference.
 

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The West had two 42-40 teams make the playoffs and also a 41-41 team. The West was not good this year after those top 4 teams
West was weaker than usual but still way better than the east. Unbalanced schedule has s little bit to do with teams in the west being 500
 

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West was weaker than usual but still way better than the east. Unbalanced schedule has s little bit to do with teams in the west being 500

Seeds 5-8 record against the East:

Portland 15-15
Memphis 17-13
Dallas 15-15
Houston 13-17
 

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Seeds 5-8 record against the East:

Portland 15-15
Memphis 17-13
Dallas 15-15
Houston 13-17
And I'll still take those teams over the bottom of the east in a 7 gm series
 

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Ok so u just said they would be a 5 seed. So at #5 they would of played #4 and like I said wouldn't get out of the 1st rd. In the East they are in the ECF. Big Difference.

There's not a lot of team in the league who would beat a healthy Clippers, Warriors, OKC, or Spurs team. Heck Cleveland would probably be the underdog against maybe 3 of those 4 teams.

For what it is worth, Toronto swept the Clippers in the season series. I know Toronto looks bad but when you're already not as good as Cleveland, you need all your players. People really don't understand how huge not having JV is for them. The only reason it did not seem like a big deal against Miami was because Miami did not have their center either
 

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There's not a lot of team in the league who would beat a healthy Clippers, Warriors, OKC, or Spurs team. Heck Cleveland would probably be the underdog against maybe 3 of those 4 teams.

For what it is worth, Toronto swept the Clippers in the season series. I know Toronto looks bad but when you're already not as good as Cleveland, you need all your players. People really don't understand how huge not having JV is for them. The only reason it did not seem like a big deal against Miami was because Miami did not have their center either
They won 2 out of 3 against the cavs in the reg season too. No chance that happened in playoffs with or without valencious(no clue how to spell it)
 

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And I'll still take those teams over the bottom of the east in a 7 gm series

You're on crack. You're taking that beat up Memphis team over any of the bottom 4 teams?

Houston quit on their season since January. They were actually upset that Utah choked and allowed them to make the playoffs. Only team I would take Houston over would be Detroit.

Portland is the only team I would probably take over seeds 5-8 out East. If Boston had Avery Bradley, maybe I would take Boston over Portland.

Dallas was another shitty team this year. I would probably take them over only Detroit
 

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Lowry left to clear his head. After all that trash he was talking lol
 

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And I'll still take those teams over the bottom of the east in a 7 gm series
100% agree. portland in the playoffs would of beat every team in the east except cavs and maybe healthy miami team. regular season and playoffs are way different. damn my bulls beat cavs 3 times. they would win 1 game against the cavs in the playoffs(maybe).
 

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Other than the top 3 teams in the West, it is overrated. More depth in the East but just not near to what Cleveland is. That is the difference
 

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You're taking that beat up Memphis team over any of the bottom 4 teams?

That's part of the problem with your theory. You're looking at the team Memphis had when the playoffs started. A healthy Memphis is probably the 2nd best team in the East. 3rd at worst.
 

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100% agree. portland in the playoffs would of beat every team in the east except cavs and maybe healthy miami team. regular season and playoffs are way different. damn my bulls beat cavs 3 times. they would win 1 game against the cavs in the playoffs(maybe).

:laugh3:

You are on crack. Portland is 2 seed, is what you are saying :laugh3:
 

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Other than the top 3 teams in the West, it is overrated. More depth in the East but just not near to what Cleveland is. That is the difference

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Your Mom needs to take away your computer privileges.
 

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That's part of the problem with your theory. You're looking at the team Memphis had when the playoffs started. A healthy Memphis is probably the 2nd best team in the East. 3rd at worst.

But they werent healthy. I thought the point of the conversation was right now. Not in the future when they are healthy.
 
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