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I was just going to post it, Foles with 3 TDs against the Cardinals D, looking like he is going to win.
 

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I was just going to post it, Foles with 3 TDs against the Cardinals D, looking like he is going to win.

Yup - and in the first half he looked as bad as Bradford (actually yardage wise and TOP wise the numbers were eerily similar to those of the Eagles). Big difference? Rams TO's close to the Cardinals' goal line that the Rams could convert). In the second half Foles played pretty good, but in the first half he was pretty much as bad as Bradford.
 

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Yup - and in the first half he looked as bad as Bradford (actually yardage wise and TOP wise the numbers were eerily similar to those of the Eagles). Big difference? Rams TO's close to the Cardinals' goal line that the Rams could convert). In the second half Foles played pretty good, but in the first half he was pretty much as bad as Bradford.

lol, you are clueless
 

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lol, you are clueless

Yup.... because of course Foles numbers tell all.... ahum, wait:

16/24, 171 yards and 3 TD's for Foles

15/28, 290 yards and 3 TD's for Bradford - and with more drops by his players than Foles.


The Rams offense stunk in the first half, just had the luck to work on a short field for the TD (17 yards to go). Foles has played good in the second half today. So did Bradford.

The only clueless one on here is you. Foles was BAD last year, and except the Washington game the Eagles won despite him more than because of him. Foles was not the answer by a long shot; it was worth it taking a flyer on Bradford; one that has not panned out so far, but who knows.
 

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Yup.... because of course Foles numbers tell all.... ahum, wait:

16/24, 171 yards and 3 TD's for Foles

15/28, 290 yards and 3 TD's for Bradford - and with more drops by his players than Foles.


The Rams offense stunk in the first half, just had the luck to work on a short field for the TD (17 yards to go). Foles has played good in the second half today. So did Bradford.

The only clueless one on here is you. Foles was BAD last year, and except the Washington game the Eagles won despite him more than because of him. Foles was not the answer by a long shot; it was worth it taking a flyer on Bradford; one that has not panned out so far, but who knows.

you're flat out wrong

once again Foles makes big clutch plays and helps his team win games. He is a your protypical big QB with a huge arm, and is still young and can only get better

now 16-4 in this last 20 games as an NFL starter

but hey, enjoy Bradford LOLOLOLOL. Lets take a flyer on an unproven fragile QB that was absolutely not necessary
 

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you're flat out wrong

What?

About the short field for the Rams today? About the Rams offense stinking it up in the first half? About Foles stinking it up for much of last season (when he played)?

Last season - week after week - was one litany of All-22's showing Foles missing one wide open WR after another, creating his own pressure, and holding on for the ball for far too long (often leading to fumbles). There were also a good number of WTF INT's, as bad as anything Bradford has shown so far.

What bailed out Foles last season for a long time were the defense and ST.

Foles was bad last season, as simple as that. And this season he has not been markedly better than Bradford (nor has he been markedly worse).
 

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I wasn't talking about a high pick, but a late round pick for a solid OL. We're running out of decent linemen. that's still the biggest problem on this team. Instead of plugging along and finish with a mediocre record, do something to acquire a couple more players.
No disrespect meant, but I bet there are 20 teams that would love to trade late round picks for solid OL.
In the NFCW, Seattle, SF, and Az would like OL help.
Also, Philly's severe lack of TOP will kill whatever you guys have left.
 

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What?

About the short field for the Rams today? About the Rams offense stinking it up in the first half? About Foles stinking it up for much of last season (when he played)?[/QUOTE]

were they supposed to walk into AZ, against a 3-0 team and dominate?

you're opinion, which is fine its your opinion, but stop passing it off as some big fact. When facts are all Foles does is win baby. He just wins
 

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Bradford hasn't been as good as expected, but Foles has just been a game manager. He hasn't thrown for over 200 yards in 3 out of the 4 games. And until today he had a 2 to 1 TD to Int rate ... if that doesn't scream game manager, I don't know what does. Credit Foles for staying away from mistakes and taking advantage of opportunity today, but it's not like he's been doing much more than playing that game manager role.
 

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were they supposed to walk into AZ, against a 3-0 team and dominate?

No, and nowhere did I suggest they should. But to give you an idea of the first half for the Rams:

1. TD (3-plays, 17 yards total)
2. 3-and-out.
3. 3-and-out (4 plays because of penalty).
4. FG (6 plays, one bomb of 43 yards getting them in range, drive immediately stalls afterwards).
5. 3-and-out.

The Eagles did better against the Jets last week in the first half.



you're opinion, which is fine its your opinion, but stop passing it off as some big fact. When facts are all Foles does is win baby. He just wins



Sure, it is my opinion that Foles played bad last season. And at the time - last season - that was a widely shared opinion for pretty much every single game - hell, it was fact. The damning All-22's were a fairly consistent feature. Apart from the Washington game, there was not a single game that year that Foles won for the Eagles. Just as this year, the Eagles last year were carried by the defense and special teams.

I know absence makes the heart grow fonder, but let's not make Foles into something he was/is not.
 

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We're going to deeply regret trading Nick Foles. Deeply.
 

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We're going to deeply regret trading Nick Foles. Deeply.

So you think the 2013 Nick Foles was closer to the true Nick Foles than the 2014 one?

I am not too sure, but it could be. As far as regretting trading him... again, could be; though what evidence is there that he would have done better than Bradford?

Because so far the stats they have put up this season are frighteningly similar.
 

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The guy we traded him for looks like a bum.
 

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Foles ... Bradford ... neither one is a guy who can win shouldering the load with bad OL play in front of them. Would I do the trade again seeing what we've seen so far? No, but that's more due to the extra pick we have to give up and Foles already having "some" success in this system. Sanchez may actually be the best out of the 3 with the way the team is playing at the moment. He's the only one without concrete in his shoes who can make some plays outside of the pocket. That's no ringing endorsement for Sanchez ... it's just that when you have a bad OL you can't have a statue behind Center.
 

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What?

About the short field for the Rams today? About the Rams offense stinking it up in the first half? About Foles stinking it up for much of last season (when he played)?

Last season - week after week - was one litany of All-22's showing Foles missing one wide open WR after another, creating his own pressure, and holding on for the ball for far too long (often leading to fumbles). There were also a good number of WTF INT's, as bad as anything Bradford has shown so far.

What bailed out Foles last season for a long time were the defense and ST.

Foles was bad last season, as simple as that. And this season he has not been markedly better than Bradford (nor has he been markedly worse).
Foles was never bad last season. However if you compared him to his stats the prior season he was not as good.
leading the rams to a win today over a tough opponent can not be taken lightly. The Eagles went 4-4 after Foles was injured. They were a better team with him. Nobody can deny those facts. Foles will have a better career than Bradford and silence the critics.
 

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This team isn't so bad for a total overhaul. Bradford looked better, the O looked better. Clean up the drops and keep the D fresher and we can bring it together. Need to win 5 or 6 in a row and a little confidence will go a long way.
1 year removed from the playoffs with Andy's guys, goes 9-3, then loses 3 of 4, and he does a total overhaul. Starts the following season with "HIS" players the same we he finished last year, losing 3 of 4, with nearly everyone, especially on O, his specialty looking like poop.

I'm just not seeing the sunshine and blue skies on the horizon here.
 

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Yup.... because of course Foles numbers tell all.... ahum, wait:

16/24, 171 yards and 3 TD's for Foles

15/28, 290 yards and 3 TD's for Bradford - and with more drops by his players than Foles.


The Rams offense stunk in the first half, just had the luck to work on a short field for the TD (17 yards to go). Foles has played good in the second half today. So did Bradford.

The only clueless one on here is you. Foles was BAD last year, and except the Washington game the Eagles won despite him more than because of him. Foles was not the answer by a long shot; it was worth it taking a flyer on Bradford; one that has not panned out so far, but who knows.

You are flat out wrong. Foles was off last year because of some crushing blows, one by Brown in Washington then one that busted his collar bone. He only played in 8 games. The Eagles would be a super bowl contender this year with the players they had and with a few key additions. Only an idiot would have broken up such good machine. Thanks Chip.
 

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You are flat out wrong. Foles was off last year because of some crushing blows, one by Brown in Washington then one that busted his collar bone. He only played in 8 games. The Eagles would be a super bowl contender this year with the players they had and with a few key additions. Only an idiot would have broken up such good machine. Thanks Chip.

Did you even watch the games before he got hurt? I doubt it.
 

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Wasn't Foles leading the league in turnovers before getting hurt last season?
 
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