DROY so far

[The Derski]

The title of the thread states Defensive Rookies, that list has about 4 offensive linemen... Just Sayin

That makes it even worse. Reid can't even compete with OLs for rookie of the year.

 

[RoboticDreams]

That makes it even worse. Reid can't even compete with OLs for rookie of the year.

 

[NinerSickness]

According to this list Reid isn't even top 10. Sorry 49ers fans

He missed a game with a concussion as well...

Not sure how PFF breaks down safeties, but if you've watched him all year (especially today) you'll see a guy who might even deserve a pro bowl birth.

 

[The Derski]

Just saying 49ers fans are such homers. Sure Reid is good but hes probably not even a top 5 rookie to most people you ask.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Just saying 49ers fans are such homers. Sure Reid is good but hes probably not even a top 5 rookie to most people you ask.

I'm happy with him. I don't expect people who haven't watched him play every week to fee the same way. Not ALL Niner fans are the same. Reid is good, that's all I care about.

 

[Nyfan1980]

Probably won't win it, since he plays a position where its harder to get good stats. But Richardson has been pretty dominant as a rookie, hes going to be a great player.

 

[NinerSickness]

Just saying 49ers fans are such homers. Sure Reid is good but hes probably not even a top 5 rookie to most people you ask.

Did you even watch the game today? He was a monster.

Call me a homer, but I've been pimping the guy since he was a sophomore at LSU. Most 49er fans thpougt he was a reach, but I thought he was the best safety in the draft. And he's playing like a veteran safety right now.

 

[NinerSickness]

Probably won't win it, since he plays a position where its harder to get good stats. But Richardson has been pretty dominant as a rookie, hes going to be a great player.

Y'know, I forgot about Richardson. That dude's a stud.

Objectively, I'd have to give it to Richardson over Reid. Both are playing great though.

 

[Golden Spur]

Pic of Shel Richardson


Probably won't win it, since he plays a position where its harder to get good stats. But Richardson has been pretty dominant as a rookie, hes going to be a great player.

See my previous post (#12) -> PFF has him as best performer thus far.

 

[jayviabay]

Just saying 49ers fans are such homers. Sure Reid is good but hes probably not even a top 5 rookie to most people you ask.

I was just pointing out the list had offensive players and it was off topic. I think its a tie between Richardson and Alonso... You should know what you are talking about before you post. Like Robotic said, I just care that he is a good player

 

[tshirt]

coming into this week

Kiko Alonso , ILB , Buffalo Bills
MLB as rookie, played all 398 snaps on the Bills defense, named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month for September. through five weeks: 44 total tackles four interceptions (most among all NFL players) three tackles for loss (one sack), one forced fumble and one fumble recovery.

Alec Ogletree, OLB , St . Louis Rams
36 tackles, three pass defenses, two tackles for loss and two forced fumbles through five games.

Tyrann Mathieu, FS /CB, Arizona Cardinals Through five games this season, Mathieu has 34 total tackles (33 solo) and one interception, forced fumble, pass deflection and sack apiece.

Kenny Vaccaro, plays every position in the back seven for the New Orleans Saints (in much the same way that the Steelers use Troy Polamalu)
one tackle short of being #1 on Saints, #1 on Saints in INT, game saving play vs Falcons on Tony Gonzales in endzone at end of game, 27 tackles

Sheldon Richardson , DE/DT , New York Jets
24 total tackles and 5.5 tackles for loss (2.5 sacks) through five games. He has 10 total quarterback pressures,

Eric Reid , FS , San Francisco 49 ers
only allowed 0.39 yards per coverage snap this season. 21 tackles, 2 INT

Xavier Rhodes , CB, Minnesota Vikings
average of just 0.69 yards allowed per coverage snap.

Johnthan Banks, CB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
average of just 0.78 yards allowed per coverage snap.

Barkevious Mingo , OLB , Cleveland Browns
had sacks in each of his first three games ( first player in Browns history to do so) in his fourth game, he had four quarterback hits. 10 tackles

Ezekiel “Ziggy” Ansah , DE, Detroit Lions
3.5 sacks, 14 tackles

outside shot:
John Jenkins , NT , New Orleans Saints
damn good 3-4 nose tackle and only a rookie. 10 tackles (8 solo)
Jarvis Jones , OLB , Pittsburgh Steelers (18 tackles)
Star Lotulelei , DT, Carolina Panthers (11 tackles, 1 sack)

 

[Golden Spur]

I was just pointing out the list had offensive players and it was off topic. I think its a tie between Richardson and Alonso... You should know what you are talking about before you post. Like Robotic said, I just care that he is a good player

Lol, how was it 'off-topic' when it had 6 defensive players listed, and none of them was Reid?

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

REID? LOL. 2 of his 3 INTs (I think 3) were gifts. He's put on some good hits but rookie of the year, I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

Sheldon Richardson and Alonso (ILB on the Bills) are clear cut winners if the season ended today. Reid isn't even the best secondary player so far this year (Kid out of Arizona is).

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Kiko Alonzo Leads the league in tackles with 66 (next player is 6 behind). He has 4 int's (tied for league lead) and 1 FF (and recovery) and 1 sack. If those aren't DROY numbers I don't know what are.

 

[Breaker99]

Where are all the naysayers who argued till their face was blue that Reid would never be a good free safety? A strong safety at best they said... That he lacked coverage skills and wouldn't be the ball hawk that goldson was..

Where are you now?

 

[Clayton]

Where are all the naysayers who argued till their face was blue that Reid would never be a good free safety? A strong safety at best they said... That he lacked coverage skills and wouldn't be the ball hawk that goldson was..

Where are you now?

The Seahawks board? I dont remember these people.

Anyways, the 4 guys standing out to be are Alonzo as the frontrunner with Ogletree, Richardson and Mathieu in the conversation.

 

[SonnyCID]

Where are all the naysayers who argued till their face was blue that Reid would never be a good free safety? A strong safety at best they said... That he lacked coverage skills and wouldn't be the ball hawk that goldson was..

Where are you now?

Osprey was the one leading that charge and he hasn't shied away from it all. Besides him, nobody else really cared all that much.

Besides, I think you should really consider the hypocrisy behind you demanding that anyone eat crow on a poor projection. Your crow just consists of deflection and denial.

 

[spacedoodoopistol]

Yesterday was the first time I've watched AZ all season, and after hearing nothing but good things about Mathieu, I couldn't have been more impressed. Absolute monster and steal of the draft.

Reid has been excellent too, plays like a pro bowl veteran every week. The one thing I'll say about PFF is that they grade games from TV - they aren't the most reliable source for DB rankings because they just can't see what the DBs are doing all that often. So while I like the site, especially for rankings of players in the trenches, its hardly gospel when it comes to a broad look at the league.

Overall I have no idea who should get the award, haven't seen enough of many of these guys to have a valid opinion. But almost every one of the top rookies I've watched has been impressive when I have seen them playing. Great draft class.

 

[cdumler7]

Yesterday was the first time I've watched AZ all season, and after hearing nothing but good things about Mathieu, I couldn't have been more impressed. Absolute monster and steal of the draft.

Reid has been excellent too, plays like a pro bowl veteran every week. The one thing I'll say about PFF is that they grade games from TV - they aren't the most reliable source for DB rankings because they just can't see what the DBs are doing all that often. So while I like the site, especially for rankings of players in the trenches, its hardly gospel when it comes to a broad look at the league.

Overall I have no idea who should get the award, haven't seen enough of many of these guys to have a valid opinion. But almost every one of the top rookies I've watched has been impressive when I have seen them playing. Great draft class.

Actually my guess is they have that All-22 or whatever it is that gives a person the coaches view and allows people to watch multiple angles of games. My guess is they wouldn't just guess how a player did on a certain play.

 

[Clayton]

Great draft class.

A really good defensive one. Not so sure on some of these offensive guys. Next year might be the opposite.