Don't trade down

[BearsWillWin]

If the Bears don't draft a pass rusher with their first pick....fans should storm Halas Hall.

 

[BearsWillWin]

Dallas's def is a fraud,theyve been getting exposed

7th in the league in points against. Have held opponents under 20 points in 8 games. Under 30 in all but 2.

In a season where offenses are controlling most games.

 

[justanidiot]

Yeah why draft a guy that's gonna go to Pro Bowls?

yeah, who got drafted at 13 instead of top 5, which is why issues might let you trade down and still get Carter and another top 15 guy this or next year.

 

[wood20ks]

7th in the league in points against. Have held opponents under 20 points in 8 games. Under 30 in all but 2.

In a season where offenses are controlling most games.

First 6 games points against:
19-1616-10-20

Week 6 thru 15 points against:
26-6-29-31-3-20-19-23-34

Thats not a great track record.....and now they face an Eagles team without Hurts....

Dallas def is not as great as it seems......

 

[BearsWillWin]

yeah, who got drafted at 13 instead of top 5, which is why issues might let you trade down and still get Carter and another top 15 guy this or next year.

If he’s there you take him. And he changes your defense. Easy decision.

 

[BearsWillWin]

First 6 games points against:
19-1616-10-20

Week 6 thru 15 points against:
26-6-29-31-3-20-19-23-34

Thats not a great track record.....and now they face an Eagles team without Hurts....

Dallas def is not as great as it seems......

In the end you are what your record says you are.

They aren’t a great defense. They are, however, a good one. Not frauds as you point out. Just not perfect.

They certainly aren’t an example of why the Bears should draft defensive players high.

 

[wood20ks]

In the end you are what your record says you are.

They aren’t a great defense. They are, however, a good one. Not frauds as you point out. Just not perfect.

They certainly aren’t an example of why the Bears should draft defensive players high.

They are a good def.......just not as great as the record indicates.....

Trade down for ot and wr.....

But its what I hope we draft,not a me vs you arguement........

 

[BsGenius]

They are a good def.......just not as great as the record indicates.....

Trade down for ot and wr.....

But its what I hope we draft,not a me vs you arguement........

I swear if the Bear fans had it their way, we'd draft a WR every freaking year. The lines are the most important BY FAR.

 

[justanidiot]

The other reason I am against Anderson is pretty simple. Look at Khalil Mack. Paid him to play elsewhere. Did not need the cap space, did not need the spot for someone you could no longer sit, he did not fit the system. Now, I dont know what the base defense of the Chargers is, their depth chart they show 2 edge, 2 DL, 2 LB 3 CB 2 S so its not a 3-4 and not a 4-3 sounds like a 2-4-5. He dropped off, the production dropped off, but if they would not consider Mack as a play anywhere guy, why would they give that to a rookie?

 

[BsGenius]

The other reason I am against Anderson is pretty simple. Look at Khalil Mack. Paid him to play elsewhere. Did not need the cap space, did not need the spot for someone you could no longer sit, he did not fit the system. Now, I dont know what the base defense of the Chargers is, their depth chart they show 2 edge, 2 DL, 2 LB 3 CB 2 S so its not a 3-4 and not a 4-3 sounds like a 2-4-5. He dropped off, the production dropped off, but if they would not consider Mack as a play anywhere guy, why would they give that to a rookie?

You may be the most unknowledgeable person on the board.

 

[wood20ks]

The other reason I am against Anderson is pretty simple. Look at Khalil Mack. Paid him to play elsewhere. Did not need the cap space, did not need the spot for someone you could no longer sit, he did not fit the system. Now, I dont know what the base defense of the Chargers is, their depth chart they show 2 edge, 2 DL, 2 LB 3 CB 2 S so its not a 3-4 and not a 4-3 sounds like a 2-4-5. He dropped off, the production dropped off, but if they would not consider Mack as a play anywhere guy, why would they give that to a rookie?

I told you all Mack was nowhere the player he once was.......
But but but he was on pace for a career high in sacks....lmao

But he was also on pace for 51 sacks this year too,but when Bosa got injured,hes on pace for retirement.....

Getting rid of him was the best move Poles has made......

 

[wood20ks]

In the end you are what your record says you are.

They aren’t a great defense. They are, however, a good one. Not frauds as you point out. Just not perfect.

They certainly aren’t an example of why the Bears should draft defensive players high.

That fraud Dallas D is at it again to a backup qb........

We need offense to be able stay with the other hi- prolific offenses......

All the great offense :

Allen/Diggs
Mahomes/ Kelce- T Hill(ya I know hes gone)
Burrow/Chase-Tee
Cousins/JJ
Dak/CD
Tua/Hill-Waddle
Lamasr/Andrews
Garrop/Kittle-Aiyuk
Hurts/Goedert-Brown-Smith
Staff-Kupp
Herbert/Allen-Williams
Rodgers/name any wr here.....hes had numerous
Same goes for Brady
You can actually insert an extra name in some of teams above......

And then we have Fields.......hmm,who does he have......?.....we need a qb/ wr combo.......
Theres no def lineman gonna be able to score at will to keep up the likes of offenses above......

We need oline and wr.......and theres no wr in fa,nor will there be an olineman ......
Definetly need def,but use that in the freeagent market.....

 

[BearsWillWin]

That fraud Dallas D is at it again to a backup qb........

The D that had a bunch of takeaways? I'll take that fraud.

If the Bears had the Cowboys defense this season they are definitely in the playoffs and probably making a run at the division.

 

[BearsWillWin]

All the great offense :

Allen/Diggs
Mahomes/ Kelce- T Hill(ya I know hes gone)
Burrow/Chase-Tee
Cousins/JJ
Dak/CD
Tua/Hill-Waddle
Lamasr/Andrews
Garrop/Kittle-Aiyuk
Hurts/Goedert-Brown-Smith
Staff-Kupp
Herbert/Allen-Williams
Rodgers/name any wr here.....hes had numerous
Same goes for Brady
You can actually insert an extra name in some of teams above......

Some of the better teams named above also have really good defenses. But go on.

49ers have the #1 scoring defense.

Buffalo is #2

Cincy is 6th in scoring and their defense is 9th in points surrendered.

Minny is 28th....which is why they are a joke and won't go anywhere in the playoffs.

Miami is 27th....which is why they are 8-7 now.

Wonder if Philly wishes their defense had played a bit better this weekend?

How many Super Bowl rings does Brady have without having played on some team with really great defenses? Last time he won he had the #8 defense and they gave up a grand total of 9 points to the great Kansas City offense in the superbowl.

Blow it out your ass. Defense matters.

 

[BearsWillWin]

We need oline and wr.......and theres no wr in fa,nor will there be an olineman ......

This is total horseshit. While we don't know the full picture there will be olinemen available in free agency. And generally speaking on the line a veteran is more likely to make a difference right away versus a rookie.

There's likely going to be guys that can bolster your line immediately like McGlinchey, Pryor, Pugh, McGovern, Hudson, Orlando Brown. Maybe some get franchised but not all will. And a lot of them will be upgrades.

The first pick the Bears take in the draft has got to be a pass rusher. Despite everything you can say about this team......that is the biggest area of need and the one that can make the biggest impact on the field next season.

 

[justanidiot]

the two best tackles got extensions, all the best receivers got extensions, you gotta draft and develop your own tackles and receivers but are picking too high to spend that pick on that position. Now Houston wins and actually gives us a shot at #1.

For those who lived thru the 85 bears defense, we all know that won the championship and the league does not allow that type of physical play anymore. Today they would be the most penalized defense in football.

I hated Cutler the most because they changed from their defensive identity.

 

[BearsWillWin]

For those who lived thru the 85 bears defense, we all know that won the championship and the league does not allow that type of physical play anymore. Today they would be the most penalized defense in football.

Great. Completely off topic and completely meaningless.

You don't need to play that style to be a great defense. You have to stop the run and be able to rush the passer.

Might as well say offenses can't run the T formation anymore.

I hated Cutler the most because they changed from their defensive identity.

Again....this is just random gibberish. Cutler isn't the reason the defense ever changed. And when he came to the Bears Lovie was still the coach and they still ran the same T2 defense with Urlacher and Briggs in the middle of it.

The defense got worse when Ogunleye and Brown couldn't rush the passer anymore and it got rejuvenated when Peppers came in.

The defense only changed when Mel Tucker took over....the Bears didn't bring back Urlacher because he got old and the defense just wasn't the same due to lack of talent. Had nothing to do with Cutler.

I know you're proud to be an idiot. But just stop making up random bullshit just so you have something to type. It's fucking silly.

 

[wood20ks]

Some of the better teams named above also have really good defenses. But go on.

49ers have the #1 scoring defense.

Buffalo is #2

Cincy is 6th in scoring and their defense is 9th in points surrendered.

Minny is 28th....which is why they are a joke and won't go anywhere in the playoffs.

Miami is 27th....which is why they are 8-7 now.

Wonder if Philly wishes their defense had played a bit better this weekend?

How many Super Bowl rings does Brady have without having played on some team with really great defenses? Last time he won he had the #8 defense and they gave up a grand total of 9 points to the great Kansas City offense in the superbowl.

Blow it out your ass. Defense matters.

Def matters,but not as much as you make it out to be........

Philly scores 40+ with Hurts.......Dallas most likely loses.
Tua imploded in the last 3 drives of the game with ints......they had that game.
Their def did not lose that game.......
Vikes wont go anywhere,Cousins will Cousins,always has,always will....
NE does not win a SB without Brady and co........not a chance....a dumb play called by Carrol for a miracle int,wins the game,otherwise their def does not get them their ring.
Same as when he went to TB.
Cincy goes no where without Burrow and Chase......
Buffalo goes nowhere without Josh/Diggs.......
Mahomes keeps winning with no def......

Dallas def is putrid........cant stop a backup qb that threw for 355 yds and gave up 3 tds to Minshew.....werk in,week out they give up a ton.....they can thank Dak,Pollard,Zeke and CD for their wins.....

Rams go nowhere without Staff and Kupp......their off is putrid without them.

This day and age,offense matters more and defense is just a luxury if you got it.........
Defense wont win you games with tds........offense does.

And this is why the Eagles will probably win the nfccg........

 

[wood20ks]

This is total horseshit. While we don't know the full picture there will be olinemen available in free agency. And generally speaking on the line a veteran is more likely to make a difference right away versus a rookie.

There's likely going to be guys that can bolster your line immediately like McGlinchey, Pryor, Pugh, McGovern, Hudson, Orlando Brown. Maybe some get franchised but not all will. And a lot of them will be upgrades.

The first pick the Bears take in the draft has got to be a pass rusher. Despite everything you can say about this team......that is the biggest area of need and the one that can make the biggest impact on the field next season.

Ill agree with a dl at big need,but so is ot and wr........those are the 3 biggest glaring needs we have.....

My whole point is,we have Fields,you dont have a qb of you future that is going on y seasons now and not have anyone that can help him out.....Kmet/ Mooney are possibilities but are nowheres top players in the league.....
If the Bears are to succeed in this league,you have to have a hi-powered offense.....we can not compete without that and the top dl in the draft will not be that guy......Myles Garrett-Chubb-Quinnen W,-Micah all say hello......

Oh and lmao,Bears would still be the Bears with Dallas def......

 

[BearsWillWin]

Philly scores 40+ with Hurts.......Dallas most likely loses.

Philly averages 29.7 overall....they scored 34 on Saturday.

Maybe they score 40+ with Hurts. That's not a definite. That's you wanting something to be true.

Tua imploded in the last 3 drives of the game with ints......they had that game.

And they are 8-7 on the season. With a better defense they likely have double digit wins.

Their def did not lose that game.......

Their defense is 27th in points allowed.

Skip around that however you like.

Vikes wont go anywhere,Cousins will Cousins,always has,always will....

And having a defense that can't stop the opponent from scoring will play a big role.

NE does not win a SB without Brady and co........not a chance....a dumb play called by Carrol for a miracle int,wins the game,otherwise their def does not get them their ring.

In the SBs they won the Patriots ranked 7th, 1st, 8th, 2nd, 1st, and 6th in points allowed in the regular season.

Brady is the GOAT. But without a top notch defense he has less rings. To even attempt to argue that would be silly.

Same as when he went to TB.

His defense held Mahomes to 9 points.

Your argument is automatically invalid.

Cincy goes no where without Burrow and Chase......

And they go nowhere without a team that can stop the opponent from scoring more than they can.

Buffalo goes nowhere without Josh/Diggs.......

See above.

Mahomes keeps winning with no def......

He has a defense. They are about average compared to the league. Last season they were top 10. They were top 10 in 2020. They were 7th in points allowed in 2019 when they won the SB. See a theme here?

Dallas def is putrid

Pretty much every stat at your fingertips says otherwise.

werk in,week out they give up a ton

Have held most opponents under 21.

Keep making shit up.

Rams go nowhere without Staff and Kupp......their off is putrid without them.

And last season they don't win the SB without Aaron Donald and a really good defense.

Keep going.

This day and age,offense matters more and defense is just a luxury if you got it.........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Defense wont win you games with tds........offense does.

Have I reminded you that you're an idiot lately?

And this is why the Eagles will probably win the nfccg........

It has more to do with balance. The Eagles can score....AND play defense.

Because you have to be able to do both. See any team that's won the SB lately.