TexasExes98
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Oh cool, so we're playing the "let's cherry pick obscure stats" game.
Not really, Codaxx is pointing out how awful the B1G is on offense, which inflates their defensive stats tremendously.
Oh cool, so we're playing the "let's cherry pick obscure stats" game.
And the Big 12 had half it's team finish ranked 90th or worse in scoring defense, while the B1G had half their teams finish in the top 19 in scoring defense.
Oh cool, so we're playing the "let's cherry pick obscure stats" game.
By cherry-picking obscure stats. MSU had no problem racking up big points against Baylor that year, more than all but two other teams did.Not really, Codaxx is pointing out how awful the B1G is on offense, which inflates their defensive stats tremendously.
Not really, Codaxx is pointing out how awful the B1G is on offense, which inflates their defensive stats tremendously.
Need I remind you also what Ohio State and michigan did against two top-tier OOC defenses in their bowl game? Hell, that "elite" Florida defense made Jake Rudock look like Joe Montana. It can go either way.Again, that's what happens when you play zero offense in your conference. need I remind you what happened to your reps (Iowa, MSU) once they stepped out of your conference.....
U don't think the two go hand and hand? When a conference plays no defense, u end up with explosive offenses and vice versa.You're joking, right? Big12 has always had some of the most explosive offenses in college football. It's the defense that seems optional among teams like Texas Tech, WVU, Baylor, and Oklahoma state.
Yes I do. And no, it's not ignorant. You're pulling out one minor statistic and making it out to be the most important because it goes along with your argument.You do realize the score is a reflection of the combined performance of offense, special teams, and the defense? I hope you are joking, because that is an amazingly ignorant response.
By cherry-picking obscure stats. MSU had no problem racking up big points against Baylor that year, more than all but two other teams did.
Need I remind you also what Ohio State and michigan did against two top-tier OOC defenses in their bowl game? Hell, that "elite" Florida defense made Jake Rudock look like Joe Montana. It can go either way.
Yes I do. And no, it's not ignorant. You're pulling out one minor statistic and making it out to be the most important because it goes along with your argument.
By cherry-picking obscure stats. MSU had no problem racking up big points against Baylor that year, more than all but two other teams did.
Need I remind you also what Ohio State and michigan did against two top-tier OOC defenses in their bowl game? Hell, that "elite" Florida defense made Jake Rudock look like Joe Montana. It can go either way.
Yes I do. And no, it's not ignorant. You're pulling out one minor statistic and making it out to be the most important because it goes along with your argument.
Baylor's defense was terrible. Nobody was pimping out Baylor's defense. Just pointing out how Baylor shredded MSU's defense. Just saw MSU's defense gave up an average of 250 yds and 19ppg in B1G conference play that year. Baylor rolled over 600 yds and scored 41 pts. Keep in mind, Oregon also scored 46 pts and rolled over 450 yds on MSU as well.
They did... but Florida had no offense so there is that.. regardless still ended up 8th nationally in D.. we have always had a decent D finding an O is the issue...
And yards per play can't be skewed? Hell, you dial up 3-4 big plays throughout the course of the game, but then do just alright for the rest of the time, does that mean you "shredded" that defense?No, its ignorant. Like I said, things like field position can have a major reflection on the score, oppositions defense, and game can have a major effect on the score. You are trying to use a stat that you have admitted has multiple outside influences to try to make a point, but I am cherry picking
And the Big 12 had half it's team finish ranked 90th or worse in scoring defense, while the B1G had half their teams finish in the top 19 in scoring defense.
So half = majority? The other half of the conference teams ranked in the top 60.I never said tOSU didn't have a good offense. I said the majority of B1G teams have awful offenses, which cannot be disputed as half of the conference was ranked 90th through #115 in total and scoring offense last year.