Defensive Coordinator...

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Sounds intriguing

 

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Brian McNally...


Tarver was on staff with the 49ers in some capacity from 2001 to 2010 when he left to become the defensive coordinator at Stanford under David Shaw. When he joined the Raiders they were coming off a year ranked 29th in yards allowed per game (387.6) and points per game (27.1). Under Tarver, Oakland immediately improved to 18th in yards (354.5) – although improved only modestly in points .(27.7). He was let go after the 2014 season months after Raiders head coach Dennis Allen was fired.

 

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pagano is interesting

 

[Sportster 72]

I want George Allen. he is an all time great defensive coach.

 

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Redskins being friend zoned by Bradley

 

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@coach_spurrier_1

 

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More press would be good for Josh and Bree. Sounds like you'd get Tomsula too if Manusky was hired from within.

 

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The 2nd tweet also sounds like Mike Pettine.

 

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Some good observations in this...

 

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Getting tired of the LA teams...grrrr

 

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There goes Mike Vrabel...and Romeo...

 

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Excerpt

Since the Redskins won’t be able to sign Wade Phillips nor does it look likely that they’ll be able to sign Gus Bradley, I broke out the four that I feel are most likely here:

In my opinion, Greg Manusky and Mike Pettine stand out as the best candidates for the job. If the team hired either coach to be the defensive coordinator, I would be perfectly content. While Tarver does have some DC experience back with the Raiders in 2012-2014, I feel like he’s still relatively unproven.

Looking at Rob Ryan’s rankings, I see three defenses in the top half of the NFL in his 12 years as a defensive coordinator… How he continues to get interviews is beyond me.

 

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Soooo, current sitch...blocked and checked on a lot of fronts....Also blocked with Guenther in Cincy. Takes two to tango and some slim pickings out there in the DC arena...

 

[skinsdad62]

look stop saddking the new DC with guys he may not want , if tyou want manuskey then promote him

 

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Keim on Tarver...


Andre Carter watched his rise as a coach up close, having been with Jason Tarver when he was his position coach, then his defensive coordinator and then his mentor. So Carter, the former Washington Redskinslinebacker, has a simple reason why Tarver should once again be a defensive coordinator.

“He’s just too damned good not to be,” Carter said. “His football IQ is on another level. I’ve seen it before [when playing] with the Patriots for Bill Belichick.”

Whether the Redskins agree will be determined soon, likely within the next week. Tarver is interviewing on Thursday for the vacant defensive coordinator position. He held the same position with Oakland from 2012-14 and has been San Francisco’s linebackers coach the past two years.

Tarver has a good reputation and has ties to Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan. Tarver was the 49er’ outside linebackers coach for five seasons when McCloughan was the general manager. But when your defense isn’t among the best, there will be questions, whether from the general public or former players. Supporters will point to the lack of talent and injuries in some seasons. Critics will point to an overall mediocre track record as a coordinator. His defenses finished 28th, 29th and 32nd in points allowed. They were 18th, 22nd and 21st in yards. The year before he arrived, they were 29th in both categories. The year after he left they were 22nd and 21st, respectively.

However, Carter, who played with Washington from 2006-10, is sold on Tarver. Both were in the 49er organization as Tarver got his start on offense. Then Tarver coached Carter for one season as a position coach and then as the Raiders’ coordinator in 2012. Last season, Carter served as a coaching intern with the 49ers, working under Tarver with the linebackers.

Here’s why Carter likes him:

Treats players the same. Carter said he liked how, from offseason workouts through the season, Tarver coached everyone the same. He’ll quiz both starters and backups in meeting rooms. He’ll critique the players’ performance under the same criteria. “You don’t find too many coaches who do that,” Carter said. “Sometimes they have their favorites or say, ‘I’ll work on the starters and not the backups.’ He was always the same. He challenged everyone in the room, whether they were a starter or a backup, ‘OK, what do you do here.’ That provided a sense of balance, whether in the position room or defensive meeting room. It showed that everyone had a purpose.”

He’s persistent but adaptable. Carter said in his first season with Oakland, the Raiders had a young defense and also multiple injuries (losing both starting corners, for example). Tarver didn’t change his defensive concepts, but he simplified them as the season unfolded. He likes to play aggressive; he likes to blitz and show multiple looks to cause confusion and will mix man and zone. Carter said, “Sometimes with a young coach, it happens when you don’t understand something fundamentally, you change it up. Sometimes when you do that it causes more chaos and confusion because players don’t understand concepts. He simplified it, and if you didn’t understand it, he simplified it some more.” In that first season, the Raiders allowed 379 yards and 32.26 points through the first 11 games. In the final five they allowed 300.6 yards and 17.4 points. Carter said, “We were playing fast and with confidence. ... He understands a player’s football IQ. This player might not be smart, but he can create a system to where he gets it and can play fast.”

He has answers. That’s not surprising given his education -- he has a master’s degree in biochemistry and molecular biology. So he’s smart. But what Carter liked is that he could explain not only what a player had to do but why. “Sometimes when you have a discussion with a player, coaches get in trouble when they say, ‘I just need you to do this,’ and when they’re asked why they can’t explain why,” Carter said. “Sometimes guys have a rebuttal, and he’ll say, ‘Well, if we do this, then this is what happens.’ It makes it fun and interesting. He wants to develop their game at their speed, so he provides that balance.”

Whether or not the Redskins agree with Carter’s assessment remains to be seen. They’ve interviewed Gus Bradley, Mike Pettine, Rob Ryan and Greg Manusky and now have an interview lined up with Dennis Thurman. But whether it’s here or elsewhere, Carter feels confident in what Tarver eventually can d

 

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Keim DC recap...



Here’s a scorecard:

GUS BRADLEY

What he runs: 4-3, often with a single-high safety.

Coordinator experience: Seattle (2009-12).

Ties to Redskins: He was in Seattle with Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan and was a position coach in Tampa Bay when Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden were part of the Bucs' organization.

Pros: His success in helping build the Seahawks' defense led to him getting the head coaching job with the Jaguars. Bradley used the talent well as the Seahawks got more, using physical cornerbacks to play a more unique press zone. The Seahawks did a good job mixing fronts and using their talent to create a pass rush.

Cons: The Redskins lack the talent to play his style of a 4-3. His Seattle defenses struggled his first two years, until more talent arrived.

MIKE PETTINE

What he runs: 3-4, but he has used a lot of the hybrid looks that Washington has as well.

Coordinator experience: Jets (2009-12), Buffalo (2013).

Ties to Redskins: He served on the Jets staff with current Redskins coaches Ben Kotwica, Bill Callahan and Matt Cavanaugh.

Pros: He’s considered a tough, hard-nosed coach. He’s the only coach on whom I received an unsolicited text of support from someone who once worked with Pettine. He likes to try to cause confusion for the offense through movement and disguises and likes to blitz. His Jets defenses finished among the top-10 in yards allowed in each of his four years (though Rex Ryan certainly had a hand in those defenses).

Cons: His defenses struggled vs. the run his last two years as a coordinator (26th and 28th, respectively). His defense as head coach in Cleveland struggled, too.

GREG MANUSKY

What he runs: Mostly a 3-4, but he has been part of multiple schemes.

Coordinator experience: He’s been a defensive coordinator for three different teams -- San Francisco (2007-10), San Diego (2011) and Indianapolis (2012-15).

Ties to Redskins: He’s their current outside linebackers coach. But he was with McCloughan in San Francisco.

Pros: He’s willing to play an aggressive style and there wouldn’t be a huge adjustment for those who remain. Players like and respect Manusky; his knowledge, passion and energy. He’s had two defenses rank among the top 10 in points allowed. He could end up with the job, but the Redskins have absolutely had strong interest in others.

Cons: It’s hard to promote from within when the defense has been a persistent issue. However, that can’t be placed on a guy who was an outside linebackers coach for one season. In seven seasons as a coordinator, he’s had five defenses rank 20th or worse in points per game. Was he made a fall guy at times? Possibly. But that’s true of every fired coach.

JASON TARVER

What he runs: He’s been part of both a 3-4 and 4-3 system. He ran a 4-3 in Oakland.

Coordinator experience: With the Raiders from 2012-15.

Ties to Redskins: He coached the linebackers in San Francisco when McCloughan was the general manager and Manusky was the defensive coordinator.

Pros: In Oakland, he ran a lot of blitzes and tried to create confusion through various looks. Former Redskin Andre Carter likes him quite a bit. Tarver would enable the Redskins to switch schemes if they so desire. But he does have experience with multiple fronts.

Cons: His defenses in Oakland weren’t very good; again, talent matters so it’s hard to judge based just on stats (whether for Tarver or any candidate). And in two seasons after him, the Raiders' defense hasn’t been much better. Still, it could make for a tougher sell.

ROB RYAN

What he runs: 3-4.

Coordinator experience: Oakland (2004-08), Cleveland (2009-10), Dallas (2011-12), New Orleans (2013-15).

Ties to Redskins: Coached one year in Dallas with Callahan.

Pros: He comes from an aggressive system, something that clearly appeals to Washington. He’ll use a lot of different looks. Ryan is considered a motivator, which is good as long as there are plenty who can teach the defense.

Cons: In seven of his 12 years as a coordinator, his defenses ranked 20th or worse in both points and yards allowed. After Rob Ryan said he wasn’t in control of the defense in New Orleans, former Saints coach Sean Payton ripped him, saying they repeatedly struggled with fundamentals and getting the right personnel on the field. That’s a problem.

DENNIS THURMAN

What he runs:3-4.

Coordinator experience: Jets (2013-14) and Buffalo (2015-16).

Ties to Redskins: He was with Callahan, Cavanaugh and Kotwica in New York.

Pros: He’s been part of an aggressive style of defense -- and though it’s a 3-4, it’s not as if that’s all they use. Thurman coached on strong defensive teams in Baltimore and with the Jets under coordinator and then coach Rex Ryan. Thurman had a good reputation as a defensive backs coach. He went from an 11th-round draft pick to a solid player for Dallas from 1978-85.

Cons: Ryan ran the show when he was the coordinator in New York. It does not appear Thurman was calling plays or in charge of the game plan. Of all the potential hires, this likely would be the riskiest given the background and lack of true work as the top defensive guy. Those who have been around him are more sold on him as a defensive backs coach.