Deebo

[gkekoa]

Well, the top 3 Wr's are in place know assuming Luke wins the Wr3 job as the slot. Does Dymani have a shot coming back at WR4?

Dyami has a shot at coming back but not to big money.

 

[Stymietee]

I'm wondering if his 17m price tag takes us out of the running for Garrett. Does AP give Deebo 17 and then turn around and give Garrett 19.7?

This is essentially swapping Johnathan Allen for Deebo in terms of salary. Deebo at 17M on the books and Allen at 16.3M off of them.

That's the money...

Allen while most likely a cut candidate, could still find a trading partner giving Washington something else to improve the team.

 

[kbso83432]

This is essentially swapping Johnathan Allen for Deebo in terms of salary. Deebo at 17M on the books and Allen at 16.3M off of them.

That's the money...

Allen while most likely a cut candidate, could still find a trading partner giving Washington something else to improve the team.

Yeah my fear was AP not wanting to tie up 36m of his cap space in two players. I love how aggressive AP is being. Lattimore.....Deebo and hopefully Garrett. He's not sitting on his hands.

 

[FanofPelicans]

RE Lattimore: When he's healthy he's one of the top CBs in the league. With an offseason to recover and a full training camp, he could be much improved. I would still draft or sign a FA CB but this upcoming season will tell us a lot more about Lattimore than last year. He's only 28. he's not washed up.

RE Garrett I want him to be traded for by the Commanders but I don't think the team can count on that. It may even be better to get him after this draft. The Commanders have a great offense but there are other needs beyond Garrett on defense.

 

[deanpet21]

I didn't say I wanted anything. I said I hope they aren't done. I said I don't think they view Luke as a #3. Are you okay Dean?

This is what you said: I dont think they go into the season with McCaffrey as their primary 3. They probably still want a legit 2 and will use Deebo in that Curtis Samuel role.

They still want a legit 2. Thats where i got it from

 

[deanpet21]

Dyami has a shot at coming back but not to big money.

im curious to see what he gets in FA

 

[FanofPelicans]

What is a good definition of a WR2? If healthy why can't Deebo be a WR2?

 

[deanpet21]

What is a good definition of a WR2? If healthy why can't Deebo be a WR2?

i agree he can be. If they pick up Kirk at Wr3 and Luke as WR 4 that should be fine. Or just sign Diggs in FA, he is a legit #2

 

[FanofPelicans]

im curious to see what he gets in FA

Dyami played well in the playoffs plus he has experience playing with Jayden. There is value in that but great QBs tend to bring out the best in other players. He would do the same thing with a rookie WR.

 

[kbso83432]

This is what you said: I dont think they go into the season with McCaffrey as their primary 3. They probably still want a legit 2 and will use Deebo in that Curtis Samuel role.

They still want a legit 2. Thats where i got it from

Again....I was speculating on their thought process. I didn't say I wanted anything. I just said I hope they aren't done. If you are itching for a gotcha moment tonight. Sorry to disappoint.

 

[FanofPelicans]

The Commanders will have lots of choices for WRs in FA and the draft.

 

[Breed]

There is no fence for me. Truly one of the most overrated players…EVER

Fuck. So the 9ers just fleeced the shit outta the Skins. Getting rid of the most overrated player to ever don a pair of cleats n a likely malcontent no doubt. For a 5th rounder who has the chance to become the greatest 5th rd draft pk the game has ever seen.

If someone didn't know better. They'd swear Riverboat was still calling and missing shots.

 

[Sportster 72]

Kind of like picking up Noah Brown or OZ.

 

[Breed]

Well, the top 3 Wr's are in place know assuming Luke wins the Wr3 job as the slot. Does Dymani have a shot coming back at WR4?

Other than being a pick of the current staff. What makes you think Luke will or should end up a head of Dyami on the depth chart?

Luke is under contract and Dyami is a free agent now so there's that and in a bit of a surprise to some . Look who's listed as the 50th best player in FA according to NFLN talking head Greg Rosenthal.

Top 101 NFL free agents of 2025: Tee Higgins, Sam Darnold among best available players in free agency

 

[Skin'EmAll]

i didnt want Deebo, but now im excited he is here. it makes me feel like AP is going to go all without doing it poorly

 

[Stymietee]

The complexity in trading Garrett is tied to his contract's remaining guaranteed money and bonus prorations.

• Pre-June 1st Trade:
  • If the Browns trade Garrett before June 1st, they would incur a significant dead money charge for the current league year. This charge would be a large amount of the remaining prorated bonus amounts. Reports indicate that this amount would be in the tens of millions of dollars.
    
    
  • Specifically, reports indicate numbers around the 32.95 million dollar mark.
    
• Post-June 1st Trade:
  • Trading Garrett after June 1st allows the Browns to split the dead money charge over two salary cap years (the current and following year). This can provide some financial relief.
    
    
  • This allows the team to spread the dead money hit, and soften the blow to the current years cap.

In other words, if Cleveland wants to trade Garrett, their best move would be to do so after June 1st. Their issue with that is it offers no help this year because such a trade happens after the 2025 NFL draft.
So, unless players are involved, Cleveland gets nothing significant this year and Washington like others who are interested would get the player for 2025 without having to give draft capital until 2026.

 

[Sportster 72]

 

[Stymietee]

What is a good definition of a WR2? If healthy why can't Deebo be a WR2?

"wide receiver 2" (WR2) refers to the second most productive or targeted wide receiver on a team's depth chart. Here's a breakdown:

• Depth Chart Position:
  • Essentially, it signifies the player who is the second option in the passing game, behind the team's "wide receiver 1" (WR1).
• Role and Responsibilities:
  • While the WR1 often draws the toughest defensive coverage, the WR2 still plays a crucial role in the offense.
  • They are expected to:
    • Consistently catch passes.
    • Run precise routes.
    • Create separation from defenders.
    • Contribute to blocking when needed.
  • The WR2 may see a variety of targets, and their role can vary depending on the team's offensive scheme.
• Relationship to WR1:
  • The effectiveness of a WR2 can be greatly influenced by the presence of a strong WR1. If the WR1 commands significant attention from the defense, it can create opportunities for the WR2 to make

In essence, a WR2 is a vital component of a successful NFL passing attack, unlike the prototypical WR1 he presents fewer problems for defenses providing a reliable target for the quarterback and complementing the team's top WR who presents a game changing presence every time that he plays.
With respect to the Commanders Terry McLaurin can be designated their WR1, but is far better suited and dangerous as a WR2. Deebo can be designated as their WR2 but is far better suited and dangerous as a WR3.
Hope this helps.

 

[Breed]

RE Lattimore: When he's healthy he's one of the top CBs in the league. With an offseason to recover and a full training camp, he could be much improved. I would still draft or sign a FA CB but this upcoming season will tell us a lot more about Lattimore than last year. He's only 28. he's not washed up.

RE Garrett I want him to be traded for by the Commanders but I don't think the team can count on that. It may even be better to get him after this draft. The Commanders have a great offense but there are other needs beyond Garrett on defense.

Talk is just that, talk, so who knows, but word on the street is. Not even 2 #1s would be enough to get Cleveland to trade Garrett. `That could just be rhetoric intended to inflate Garrett's trade value.

You're on point though. The defense needs help in the interior line and another LB wouldn't hurt especially factoring in BW's age. (I'd dig it if the Skins could snag Braun from Philly, but he's gonna wanna get paid in a real way especially if he signs with a team not named Eagles.

I don't know if they wanna keep Mike S on the outside or move him back to the slot, whatever it is. At least 1 CB is needed and possibly 2 safeties. With Chinn being a free agent now. I'm hoping a safety who can legitimately cover n tackles well is acquired as well..

DGF made a great point about the downside of signing a lot of 1 year, show me you can play deals. They can be great on the front end nj are pretty low risk contract-wise. If they show they can still play.. The following year they want that money to show up .

 

[kbso83432]

"wide receiver 2" (WR2) refers to the second most productive or targeted wide receiver on a team's depth chart. Here's a breakdown:

• Depth Chart Position:
  • Essentially, it signifies the player who is the second option in the passing game, behind the team's "wide receiver 1" (WR1).
• Role and Responsibilities:
  • While the WR1 often draws the toughest defensive coverage, the WR2 still plays a crucial role in the offense.
  • They are expected to:
    • Consistently catch passes.
    • Run precise routes.
    • Create separation from defenders.
    • Contribute to blocking when needed.
  • The WR2 may see a variety of targets, and their role can vary depending on the team's offensive scheme.
• Relationship to WR1:
  • The effectiveness of a WR2 can be greatly influenced by the presence of a strong WR1. If the WR1 commands significant attention from the defense, it can create opportunities for the WR2 to make

In essence, a WR2 is a vital component of a successful NFL passing attack, unlike the prototypical WR1 he presents fewer problems for defenses providing a reliable target for the quarterback and complementing the team's top WR who presents a game changing presence every time that he plays.
With respect to the Commanders Terry McLaurin can be designated their WR1, but is far better suited and dangerous as a WR2. Deebo can be designated as their WR2 but is far better suited and dangerous as a WR3.
Hope this helps.

Yeah, Keim speculated this could go all the way to the trade deadline because of that. My ideal scenario is to aquire him post June so we can use 29 to trade down and get some picks.

Additionally I hope AP is working the phones to trade Allen and get a 5th back to replace the one we gave up today.

I'm not sure any top end talent will be there at 29. Might as well trade back, get your running back, get your corner, and use the rest to add depth to the LOS.

Will AP be willing to gamble in FA and the draft and pass on a good pass rusher with the hopes that Cleveland caves? If Cleveland caves, hopefully by that time Philly will have ready signed Baun and Milton.