Danny Briere Mendoza's Shootout Goal

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Danny Briere Totally Performed Luis Mendoza's Mighty Ducks Move in the Shootout - Crossing Broad


You decide

 

[elocomotive]

I saw that last night. It was a sweet move, but I didn't think it was legal. "The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent***8217;s goal line..." He completely stopped AND pulled the puck back. Seems like he violated the motion portion of the rule and I thought the ref should have disallowed it.

 

[dash]

I can't wait until a guy skates in with a banana creme pie in one hand and really showers the goalie before potting a goal...

 

[mattola]

should have been no goal at least NJD didnt get screwed by it and still got the win

 

[KennyBanyeah]

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I saw that last night. It was a sweet move, but I didn't think it was legal. "The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent***8217;s goal line..." He completely stopped AND pulled the puck back. Seems like he violated the motion portion of the rule and I thought the ref should have disallowed it.

I didn't think it was legal either. In the end it worked out. The Devils won anyway.

 

[buffhockey]

I can't wait until a guy skates in with a banana creme pie in one hand and really showers the goalie before potting a goal...

now I'm craving some...

 

[Darkstone42]

This is all I took from that...

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

My problem is that spin-o-rama's are somehow allowed where the puck is going backwards, yet they would have to balls to disallow this one?

I think even Briere thought it would not count but it was close. At one point he drags the puck backwards but his body is still moving forward. Both body and puck never stopped moving at the same time, it was one or the other.

I may not have been mad if it did get disallowed though, I would have been happy enough with the goalie undressing.

 

[beantownmaniac]

I can't wait until a guy skates in with a banana creme pie in one hand and really showers the goalie before potting a goal...

 

[beantownmaniac]

My problem is that spin-o-rama's are somehow allowed where the puck is going backwards, yet they would have to balls to disallow this one?

I think even Briere thought it would not count but it was close. At one point he drags the puck backwards but his body is still moving forward. Both body and puck never stopped moving at the same time, it was one or the other.

I may not have been mad if it did get disallowed though, I would have been happy enough with the goalie undressing.

spin-o-rama's and moves like last night are fine when it's not a shootout or penalty shot, but IMO, the goal last night should have been taken away.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

spin-o-rama's and moves like last night are fine when it's not a shootout or penalty shot, but IMO, the goal last night should have been taken away.

But spin-o-rama's have happened in shootouts. Refs tend to let stuff like that fly and I think it is OK. Let them play hockey.

 

[awaz]

either that and spin-o-rama's are legal or they are both illegal.. since they've allowed spin-o-rama's (and i remember datsyuk pulling a very similar move, except on the backhand) then they have to allow this one

doesn't really follow the rule as they wrote it, but i do think they are being consistent, so i have no problems

 

[Comeds]

But spin-o-rama's have happened in shootouts. Refs tend to let stuff like that fly and I think it is OK. Let them play hockey.

Whats that got to do with the shootout?

The puck stops, it shouldnt have counted by rule.

 

[SLY]

When you perform a "spin-o-rama" the puck is continually moving forward if done right. This definitely comes to a stop and might even back track a little. Bad goal, refs suck.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

When you perform a "spin-o-rama" the puck is continually moving forward if done right. This definitely comes to a stop and might even back track a little. Bad goal, refs suck.

But with the spin the puck goes backwards, which is basically a reversal and is what the rule tried to ban. This play the puck went backwards while the body was moving forward, then the body stops while the puck is again moving.


The shootout sucks enough, let players get fancy. I think coming to a stop lessens a players chance of scoring. If a goalie like Hedberg wants to come out and tackle the shooter, they should be allowed to counter it.

 

[awaz]

When you perform a "spin-o-rama" the puck is continually moving forward if done right. This definitely comes to a stop and might even back track a little. Bad goal, refs suck.

i guess that all depends on your definition of done right.. in my definition of done right the player goes from his forehand, then drags the puck back behind him (on the back of his blade) as he spins around in a fore-hand to back-hand circle..

and the puck moving backwards thing doesn't really hold water to me.. there's been a ton of shootout shots where the shooter drags the puck backwards, whether to 'load' a shot or make a move around a goalie

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Whats that got to do with the shootout?

Touche

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

i guess that all depends on your definition of done right.. in my definition of done right the player goes from his forehand, then drags the puck back behind him (on the back of his blade) as he spins around in a fore-hand to back-hand circle..

and the puck moving backwards thing doesn't really hold water to me.. there's been a ton of shootout shots where the shooter drags the puck backwards, whether to 'load' a shot or make a move around a goalie

Thats my point exactly of let them play hockey. It's a natural hockey movement. I can see a player stopping just to force the goalie to make the first move should be illegal, but the quick stop and go when a goalie comes charging at you should be allowed.

I know the rule book says otherwise, but there are many unwritten rules in this game and that should be one of them.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Please watch he following video. Mike Murphy, the NHL's Senior VP of Hockeys Operations statement regarding the goal. Just discovered this little nugget.

Basically makes all of my points. Briere continues moving the puck while he came to a stop. Even brings up the comparisons to the spin-o-ramma

CISCO NHL Live - Mike Murphy Video - NHL VideoCenter