Daniel Jeremiah’s Top 8 QBs Heading Into The 2020 Season

[RememberTheKoy]

in 2017 werent they like slightly over midpack in ypa and yards per game? even with healthy wentz they were outside the top 10 in YPA........

So that makes them a dink and dunk offense?

 

[SteelersPride]

So that makes them a dink and dunk offense?

well it certainly doesnt lend credence to them taking and completing deeper passes

 

[RememberTheKoy]

well it certainly doesnt lend credence to them taking and completing deeper passes

Does the video evidence lend credence to you?

 

[Manster7588]

Sure wasn't the philosophy in 2017 to have some dink and dunk offense. You should stick to your own team because you're really clueless about the Eagles.

Funny you ignore 2016, 2018 and 2019.

I'll agree I'm not fully up on the Eagles, but with just a little searching it shows neither are you.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Funny you ignore 2016, 2018 and 2019.

I'll agree I'm not fully up on the Eagles, but with just a little searching it shows neither are you.

Personnel in those years. 2018 and 2019 they tried to take shots down the field but just didn't have the WRs for it. You really have no idea what you're talking about. You're easily the most clueless amongst the Cowboy fans on this board.

 

[SteelersPride]

Does the video evidence lend credence to you?

oh, a highlight video, i stand corrected....that certainly shows the majority of the 500+ pass attempts on the season, real stats be damned.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Everyone that is drafted is unproven at the NFL level.

I get that but don't try to spin it on what his college stats are. Like I said, hopefully the WRs coach works hard on fixing those mistakes.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

oh, a highlight video, i stand corrected....that certainly shows the majority of the 500+ pass attempts on the season, real stats be damned.

When did I ever claim the majority of the pass attempts are going to be bombs down the field? Point is they aren't a dink and dunk offense that is built around short quick passes. Outside of designed screens they don't do many short pass attempts, most pass attempts are mid range with Wentz trying to extend for an opportunity to throw it down the field. They just haven't had the personnel to throw it down the field so they got DeSean and we saw that impact in the game played but he got injured. So they dedicated this past draft to rebuilding the WR core even further with the common theme/attribute of speed with the WRs they added.

The Eagles offense is going to continue to use all parts of the field in the way they attack, difference this year being is they openly want to be a more explosive offense with more plays down the field and they have set themselves up to make that possible with the WRs they have added.

 

[Manster7588]

Personnel in those years. 2018 and 2019 they tried to take shots down the field but just didn't have the WRs for it. You really have no idea what you're talking about. You're easily the most clueless amongst the Cowboy fans on this board.

FYI Ertz was 2nd in Pass Targets by a grand total of 10 targets, and he missed 2 games, so even in the year you're touting as a deep passing year the TE was still the primary target.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

FYI Ertz was 2nd in Pass Targets by a grand total of 10 targets, and he missed 2 games, so even in the year you're touting as a deep passing year the TE was still the primary target.

Okay and?

 

[SteelersPride]

Lololol

 

[Manster7588]

Okay and?

OK, learn your team.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

OK, learn your team.

Throwing to tight end = dink and dunk?

 

[Manster7588]

Throwing to tight end = dink and dunk?

Never said that, now did I?

No it means BALL Controll, and cuts down on potential Turnovers.

I have no problem with a Ball Control offense, and just by using a Ball Control offense doesn't mean the QB isn't capable of airing it out, but it does put less importance on a bunch of speedy recievers, now that's not saying speed won't help as I was bitching when Dallas never aired it out, because regardless if a deepball is completed or not, if teams know you will go long they have to respect it.
In 2017 teams played Dallas 8 in the box tge majority of the time and Dallas rarely if ever tried to make them pay for it.


As for Phillies "Track Team" if Pederson is going to atay true to himself and keep using short passes to the TEs and RBs there's absolutely no reason to fill a roster with 3 or speed recievers.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Never said that, now did I?

No it means BALL Controll, and cuts down on potential Turnovers.

I have no problem with a Ball Control offense, and just by using a Ball Control offense doesn't mean the QB isn't capable of airing it out, but it does put less importance on a bunch of speedy recievers, now that's not saying speed won't help as I was bitching when Dallas never aired it out, because regardless if a deepball is completed or not, if teams know you will go long they have to respect it.
In 2017 teams played Dallas 8 in the box tge majority of the time and Dallas rarely if ever tried to make them pay for it.


As for Phillies "Track Team" if Pederson is going to atay true to himself and keep using short passes to the TEs and RBs there's absolutely no reason to fill a roster with 3 or speed recievers.

Ball control offense? Short passes to TEs and RBs? What exactly are short passes to you?

The Eagles don't run some dump the ball off near the LOS offense (outside of designed screens) that Eli Manning had been running the last few years.

He's throwing mid range passes to TEs and he's throwing to RBs all over the field including Sanders down the field.


Again it's not an offense that is running these quick short passes. It has been an issue with personnel. The wide receivers just haven't been capable of getting seperation down the field and then when they did they weren't able to catch the ball. Wentz was the best tight window QB in the NFL this past season.

The Eagles due to being limited at WR have had to put together these long drives together to score, often filled with picking up mulitle 3rd down and longs on the drive. They have been open about how they want to add an explosive level back to the offense so they can attack teams down the field. They didn't add didn't add a bunch of speed at WR with the intention that every scoring drive is going to remain an absolute grind. This is going to be an offense that will attack teams at all points of the field, short, medium and long.




Also how are you unable to comprehend that an effective deep passing game opens things up underneath for everyone else? You're stuck in this mentality that it's one or the other. Like in your head there are only 10 offensive snaps per game and the Eagles can only use those to either throw to the TEs over the middle of the field or go deep to WRs down the field but they can't do bothm

 

[Manster7588]

Ball control offense? Short passes to TEs and RBs? What exactly are short passes to you?

The Eagles don't run some dump the ball off near the LOS offense (outside of designed screens) that Eli Manning had been running the last few years.

He's throwing mid range passes to TEs and he's throwing to RBs all over the field including Sanders down the field.


Again it's not an offense that is running these quick short passes. It has been an issue with personnel. The wide receivers just haven't been capable of getting seperation down the field and then when they did they weren't able to catch the ball. Wentz was the best tight window QB in the NFL this past season.

The Eagles due to being limited at WR have had to put together these long drives together to score, often filled with picking up mulitle 3rd down and longs on the drive. They have been open about how they want to add an explosive level back to the offense so they can attack teams down the field. They didn't add didn't add a bunch of speed at WR with the intention that every scoring drive is going to remain an absolute grind. This is going to be an offense that will attack teams at all points of the field, short, medium and long.




Also how are you unable to comprehend that an effective deep passing game opens things up underneath for everyone else? You're stuck in this mentality that it's one or the other. Like in your head there are only 10 offensive snaps per game and the Eagles can only use those to either throw to the TEs over the middle of the field or go deep to WRs down the field but they can't do bothm

Dak Prescott ranked No.1 'tight-window' passer in NFL

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Dak Prescott ranked No.1 'tight-window' passer in NFL

This is relevant to this discussion how?

 

[Manster7588]

This is relevant to this discussion how?

It's relevant that Dak has also been called the best Tight Window passer, and many, scratch that, MOST Eagles fans say Dak has a noodle arm and doesn't throw down field, therefore your post does absolutely nothing to dispute Pederson runs a ball control SHORT passing game.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

It's relevant that Dak has also been called the best Tight Window passer, and many, scratch that, MOST Eagles fans say Dak has a noodle arm and doesn't throw down field, therefore your post does absolutely nothing to dispute Pederson runs a ball control SHORT passing game.

He doesn't though. Outside of screens the Eagles aren't running an offense of quick dink and dunk passes like the Giants Eli offense. It's a lot of intermediate throws. The past two seasons the offense has been dependent on long 10+ play scoring drives because they haven't had the WRs to throw to down the field. It's purely a product of personnel. We know this because we have 2017 as an example.


I'm not sure what delusions you have to think the Eagles added a lot of speed at WR to operate an offense on 2-5 yard passing players. That isn't who they are and that isn't what they are planning on doing. The one game with DeSean last season is another example of how they plan on attacking all parts of the field when they have complimentary players on the field that allows them to attack at all levels.

 

[SteelersPride]

Lololololol