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Daniel Jeremiah’s Top 8 QBs Heading Into The 2020 Season

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Yes he has a large catch radius but that doesn't mean shit with the numbers I provided to you.
Doesn’t catch radius include actually...you know...catching the ball???
 

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all these threads do. So you've been following and laughing. Im sure you've read others........

A few questions........

Is there a stick in my bum? Am i that mean? I see other posters calling names, and being called names myself......i dont think iv'e really gone there......

Is the non stop pivot and goal post moving, and straight ignoring things in all of our heads?

Ask a non-involved, non stick in an orfice person
I'm not real sure on the stick in bum thing because ya know, people are sometimes into some weird shit but no, you aren't mean and no, it's not a figment of our imagination on the rest of it. That's all part of the humorous side of it for me.
 

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Doesn’t catch radius include actually...you know...catching the ball???

It does but he was just referring to the full radius, but not stats involved.
 

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Sure seems like Slay is getting beat a lot...


Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he is another in a decade now of failed fixes at CB.

Pass rush has looked really good though at least.
 

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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he is another in a decade now of failed fixes at CB.

Pass rush has looked really good though at least.
DL will be one of the best in the league
 

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It does but he was just referring to the full radius, but not stats involved.
My point is that A large catch radius means catching the ball in that large area.Touching it but dropping it doesn’t count: so if you are dropping the ball you have a small catch radius as in the QB needs to basically hand you the ball: I’m not talking specifically about Reagor: just defining the term. Drops are absolutely pertinent when discussing catch radius.
 

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My point is that A large catch radius means catching the ball in that large area.Touching it but dropping it doesn’t count: so if you are dropping the ball you have a small catch radius as in the QB needs to basically hand you the ball: I’m not talking specifically about Reagor: just defining the term. Drops are absolutely pertinent when discussing catch radius.

I think you put it in the best way. Excellent
 

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My point is that A large catch radius means catching the ball in that large area.Touching it but dropping it doesn’t count: so if you are dropping the ball you have a small catch radius as in the QB needs to basically hand you the ball: I’m not talking specifically about Reagor: just defining the term. Drops are absolutely pertinent when discussing catch radius.


That would be relevant to Reagor (this post more directed to the jersey Seahawks fan) if Reagor doesn't make tough catches that are a result of his large catch radius. He will have the same drops any other WR does that hit him right in the hands.

Fact is with Reagor is you have a larger window than most WRs to get the ball to for him to have a chance to make a play on the ball. He isn't a guy that you need to drop it right into his chest everytime for him to catch it.
 

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That would be relevant to Reagor (this post more directed to the jersey Seahawks fan) if Reagor doesn't make tough catches that are a result of his large catch radius. He will have the same drops any other WR does that hit him right in the hands.

Fact is with Reagor is you have a larger window than most WRs to get the ball to for him to have a chance to make a play on the ball. He isn't a guy that you need to drop it right into his chest everytime for him to catch it.

My take of tough catches are outside of his catch radius and the catches he's suppose to make are inside his catch radius which doesn't have to be right on the numbers. That's just an opinion while others may differ.
 

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I'm not real sure on the stick in bum thing because ya know, people are sometimes into some weird shit but no, you aren't mean and no, it's not a figment of our imagination on the rest of it. That's all part of the humorous side of it for me.
Says "Dr Strangelove"...:D
 

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Says "Dr Strangelove"...:D
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My take of tough catches are outside of his catch radius and the catches he's suppose to make are inside his catch radius which doesn't have to be right on the numbers. That's just an opinion while others may differ.

Alshon Jeffery has a big catch radius because there is a large window of where you can throw the ball for him to have a chance.

Someone like Greg Ward has a smaller catch radius Becuase he is smaller and doesn't really have any exceptional athletic ability to make up for it.

Reagor has a big catch radius because while he is under 6 feet he has elite athletic ability which he uses in his game to aggressively go up for passes that other WRs like a Greg Ward do not have the ability to make an attempt on. There is a much larger window that a QB has to throw to with Reagor than most other WRs.

Agholor for example needed a ball right on the money for him to make an attempt on it. If it required him to dive out for a catch he wasn't going to do it.
 

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Alshon Jeffery has a big catch radius because there is a large window of where you can throw the ball for him to have a chance.

Someone like Greg Ward has a smaller catch radius Becuase he is smaller and doesn't really have any exceptional athletic ability to make up for it.

Reagor has a big catch radius because while he is under 6 feet he has elite athletic ability which he uses in his game to aggressively go up for passes that other WRs like a Greg Ward do not have the ability to make an attempt on. There is a much larger window that a QB has to throw to with Reagor than most other WRs.

Agholor for example needed a ball right on the money for him to make an attempt on it. If it required him to dive out for a catch he wasn't going to do it.

Just let Reagor do the talking for you, my man. Only a couple weeks now.

These haters don't have a clue. Didn't during draft season either.
 

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Alshon Jeffery has a big catch radius because there is a large window of where you can throw the ball for him to have a chance.

Someone like Greg Ward has a smaller catch radius Becuase he is smaller and doesn't really have any exceptional athletic ability to make up for it.

Reagor has a big catch radius because while he is under 6 feet he has elite athletic ability which he uses in his game to aggressively go up for passes that other WRs like a Greg Ward do not have the ability to make an attempt on. There is a much larger window that a QB has to throw to with Reagor than most other WRs.

Agholor for example needed a ball right on the money for him to make an attempt on it. If it required him to dive out for a catch he wasn't going to do it.
Jeffery has (or at least had) a huge catch radius. I can't say on Reagor yet because I haven't watched him enough and looking at highlight clips is stupid because they are highlights. Here is where I think you are a little off. Yes jumping ability does help, but in general when you are talking catch radius what is much more important is size and hands. There are only so many times per year most smallish WRs use their jumping ability to come down with balls that larger receivers wouldn't very easily be able to do so. He seems to be pretty good at this but you may only see it a handful of times and a bigger WR might more easily make those same catches. Many times you just aren't in a position (running full speed or no time to react or ball slightly behind or in front) to use that jumping ability and when you do it doesn't usually help you as much as just being 4" taller does. But, again, the hands are the most important part. To have a big catch radius you can't be a body catcher and you need to be able to snag those passes over your head, behind you and down to have a big catch radius as well. I looked at scouting reports on him and didn't cherry pick: these were in the first 5 returns and the portions that related to hands, body catching and catch radius. Seems a mixed bag. Personally I think he will be a very good WR and maybe a #1, but nowhere near the superstar you seem to be making him out to be. Time will tell, but I think CeeDee is much better and I'm happy we have him instead.

" As a pass catcher, Reagor has the tendency to body catch and can be negatively impacted by physicality at the catch point. He needs to cut annoying, drive disturbing drops out of his game as well. "

"His speed is what makes him special. But hands and physicality are two things
that Joe Marino of The Draft Network said are negatives against him. Definitely guilty of his share of unnecessary body catches where he guides the football into his frame to trap it. Hand alignment is inconsistent when greeting the football. Not much of a threat in contested situations, hanging on through contact or extending throwing windows. Physicality isn’t his game at all. Minimal amounts of contact restrict his ability to keep his route timing, win in contested situations or as a ball carrier,” Marino wrote."

"Reagor is overall reliable when it comes to his hands, but there are some bad concentration drops on tape, often because he has his eyes already looking upfield before the ball gets to him. His catch radius isn’t large. Reagor does catch it away from his frame and is by no means a body catcher."

"Had some drop issues and some concentration issues returning punts but generally reliable doing both. Not a body-catcher. Strong hands"

"Though he's not the biggest receiver at 5-foot-11, 195 pounds, Reagor plays much bigger, excelling at high-pointing the football and winning jump balls downfield. Far too often, he stopped his route short, leaving his quarterback out to dry and leading to a couple of interceptions in the process. While Reagor can make spectacular, highlight reel grabs look routine, he's also prone to letting passes get to his chest as a "body catcher." Concentration-related drops were a surprising issue for him throughout his college career and he needs to do a better job getting his hands up earlier to bring in the football and secure the catch
 

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i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Wentz. u wouldnt say this shit to him at if you saw him in person, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
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