Comparing teams in the top 10

[Big Red Said]

FYI... Mich State posessions:


1st Qtr:

1st and 10 at MSU 17 Le'Veon Bell rush for 6 yards to the MchSt 23.
2nd and 4 at MSU 23 Le'Veon Bell rush for 7 yards to the MchSt 30 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at MSU 30 Le'Veon Bell rush for 11 yards to the MchSt 41 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at MSU 41 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
2nd and 10 at MSU 41 Le'Veon Bell rush for 5 yards to the MchSt 46.
3rd and 5 at MSU 46 Kirk Cousins pass intercepted by Lance Thorell at the Neb 49, returned for 26 yards to the MchSt 25, fumbled, forced by B.J. Cunningham at the MchSt 25.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 6 plays 29 yards, 02:59 MICHIGANST FUMB

1st and 10 at NEB 38 Edwin Baker rush for a loss of 2 yards to the Neb 40.
2nd and 12 at NEB 40 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Keshawn Martin for 5 yards to the Neb 35.
3rd and 7 at NEB 35 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
4th and 7 at NEB 35 Dan Conroy 52 yard field goal MISSED.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 3 plays 3 yards, 01:47 MICHIGANST FGA

1st and 10 at MSU 10 Le'Veon Bell rush for 3 yards to the MchSt 13.
2nd and 7 at MSU 13 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete to Dion Sims.
3rd and 7 at MSU 13 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
4th and 7 at MSU 13 Mike Sadler punt for 27 yards, punt out-of-bounds at the MchSt 40.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 3 plays 3 yards, 00:58 MICHIGANST PUNT

1st and 10 at MSU 20 Edwin Baker rush for 2 yards to the MchSt 22.
2nd and 8 at MSU 22 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
3rd and 8 at MSU 22 NEBRASKA penalty 4 yard Offside accepted.
3rd and 4 at MSU 26 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Le'Veon Bell for 3 yards to the MchSt 29.
4th and 1 at MSU 29 Mike Sadler punt for 38 yards, fair catch by Rex Burkhead at the Neb 33.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 3 plays 9 yards, 01:14 MICHIGANST PUNT

2nd Qtr:

1st and 10 at MSU 33 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Keshawn Martin for 5 yards to the MchSt 38.
2nd and 5 at MSU 38 MICHIGAN ST penalty 5 yard False Start accepted.
2nd and 10 at MSU 33 Le'Veon Bell rush for 6 yards to the MchSt 39.
3rd and 4 at MSU 39 Kirk Cousins rush for 8 yards to the MchSt 47 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at MSU 47 Keshawn Martin rush for no gain to the MchSt 47.
2nd and 10 at MSU 47 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
3rd and 10 at MSU 47 Timeout MICHIGAN ST, clock 12:01.
3rd and 10 at MSU 47 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Keshawn Martin for 14 yards to the Neb 39 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at NEB 39 Edwin Baker rush for 1 yard to the Neb 38.
2nd and 9 at NEB 38 Edwin Baker rush for no gain to the Neb 38.
3rd and 9 at NEB 38 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
4th and 9 at NEB 38 Mike Sadler punt for 38 yards for a touchback.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 9 plays 29 yards, 04:27 MICHIGANST PUNT

1st and 10 at MSU 37 Kirk Cousins sacked by Baker Steinkuhler for a loss of 4 yards to the MchSt 33.
2nd and 14 at MSU 33 Edwin Baker rush for 6 yards to the MchSt 39.
3rd and 8 at MSU 39 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
4th and 8 at MSU 39 Mike Sadler punt for 40 yards, returned by Ameer Abdullah for no gain, fumbled at the Neb 17.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 3 plays 2 yards, 01:36 MICHIGANST FUMB

1st and 10 at NEB 28 Le'Veon Bell rush for 2 yards to the Neb 26.
2nd and 8 at NEB 26 Keshawn Martin rush for 5 yards to the Neb 21.
3rd and 3 at NEB 21 Le'Veon Bell rush for 4 yards to the Neb 17 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at NEB 17 NEBRASKA penalty 9 yard Holding accepted, no play.
1st and Goal at NEB 8 Le'Veon Bell rush for a loss of 3 yards to the Neb 11.
2nd and Goal at NEB 11 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
3rd and Goal at NEB 11 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
4th and Goal at NEB 11 Dan Conroy 28 yard field goal GOOD. 3 10
Kevin Muma kickoff for 70 yards returned by Ameer Abdullah for 28 yards, fumbled at the Neb 28.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 7 plays 17 yards, 03:03 MICHIGANST FG

3rd Qtr:

1st and 10 at MSU 27 Le'Veon Bell rush for 8 yards to the MchSt 35.
2nd and 2 at MSU 35 Le'Veon Bell rush for 6 yards to the MchSt 41 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at MSU 41 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
2nd and 10 at MSU 41 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Brian Linthicum for 8 yards to the MchSt 49.
3rd and 2 at MSU 49 NEBRASKA penalty 0 yard Pass Interference accepted, no play.
1st and 10 at NEB 46 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
2nd and 10 at NEB 46 Le'Veon Bell rush for 3 yards to the Neb 43.
3rd and 7 at NEB 43 Kirk Cousins sacked by Eric Martin for a loss of 7 yards to the 50 yard line.
4th and 14 at NEB 50 Mike Sadler punt for 39 yards, punt out-of-bounds at the Neb 11.

1st and 10 at MSU 27 Edwin Baker rush for 11 yards to the MchSt 38 for a 1ST down. End of 3rd Quarter

4th Qtr:

1st and 10 at MSU 38 Edwin Baker rush for 9 yards to the MchSt 47.
2nd and 1 at MSU 47 Edwin Baker rush for 4 yards to the Neb 49 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at NEB 49 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Todd Anderson for no gain to the Neb 49.
2nd and 10 at NEB 49 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Keshawn Martin for 20 yards to the Neb 29 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at NEB 29 Edwin Baker rush for 4 yards to the Neb 25.
2nd and 6 at NEB 25 Timeout NEBRASKA, clock 12:18.
2nd and 6 at NEB 25 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
3rd and 6 at NEB 25 Kirk Cousins sacked by Eric Martin for a loss of 7 yards to the Neb 32.
4th and 13 at NEB 32 Timeout MICHIGAN ST, clock 11:22.
4th and 13 at NEB 32 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Keshawn Martin for 14 yards to the Neb 18 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at NEB 18 Edwin Baker rush for 3 yards to the Neb 15.
2nd and 7 at NEB 15 MICHIGAN ST penalty 15 yard Face Mask accepted, no play.
2nd and 22 at NEB 30 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Le'Veon Bell for 10 yards to the Neb 20.
3rd and 12 at NEB 20 MICHIGAN ST penalty 10 yard Holding accepted, no play.
3rd and 22 at NEB 30 Kirk Cousins rush for 13 yards to the Neb 17.
4th and 9 at NEB 17 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 13 plays 56 yards, 07:51 MICHIGANST DOWNS

1st and 10 at MSU 31 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Le'Veon Bell for a loss of 1 yard to the MchSt 30.
2nd and 11 at MSU 30 Kirk Cousins sacked by Cameron Meredith for a loss of 3 yards to the MchSt 27.
3rd and 14 at MSU 27 Kirk Cousins pass incomplete.
4th and 14 at MSU 27 Timeout MICHIGAN ST, clock 04:29.
4th and 14 at MSU 27 Kirk Cousins pass complete to Brian Linthicum for 8 yards to the MchSt 35.
DRIVE TOTALS: MICHIGANST drive: 4 plays 4 yards, 01:12 MICHIGANST DOWNS

 

[jedburks]

I don't think the running game was working that spectacular for them........and there were probably a couple reasons they started throwing the football..........1) They were trailing 2 TDs to start the 2nd half, and our defense was stout, which meant the likelihood of them putting together two TD scoring drives wasn't good if they had to relying on running the football.............2) We were kicking the shit out of them. The physical aspect took over and Michigan State couldn't keep up on either side of the ball.

I think we crushed them. That is how football is supposed to be played. None of the fancy slinging the football around garbage.........just line 'em up and knock 'em down. See who's standing at the end. Nebraska was by far more up for the physical challenge, and we did it against one of the most physical football teams in the country.

Their first possession started with a rush of 6, 7, 11, incomplete pass, and then a rush for 5. Then they had 3 straight 3 and outs where they ran the ball on each 1st down and then threw it on 2nd and 3rd downs. Then the first quarter ended at a score of just 10-0. In the 2nd quarter they started with a 5 yard pass followed by a 5 yard penalty. Then they ran it on 2nd and 3rd down for 6 and 8 yards. Later on in the quarter after the Taylor INT they run for 2, 5, and then 4. Get a holding penalty on Nebraska, run it on 1st and goal and then throw it the next 2 downs to settle for a field goal. It was only 10-3 at the half. There was no need to throw the ball all over the place like that. That is why I think MSU paniced unnecessarily like Beck did in Wisconsin. Michigan St got beat up and worn down on defense because MSU's offense couldn't stay on the field to give them rest and we kept leaning on them and pounding the rock. We only had 101 yards in the first half but they were all rushing yards. We just wore them down for the 2nd half. You think Michigan St is one of the more physical teams in the country???? You must not watch as much college football as you claim.

Our defense looked really good but we will see if our rush defense really is better when we play Michigan and especially Penn St. Those 2 teams will NOT panic and abandon the run. And those 2 teams have RBs that are better then MSU's RBs.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Their first possession started with a rush of 6, 7, 11, incomplete pass, and then a rush for 5. Then they had 3 straight 3 and outs where they ran the ball on each 1st down and then threw it on 2nd and 3rd downs. Then the first quarter ended at a score of just 10-0. In the 2nd quarter they started with a 5 yard pass followed by a 5 yard penalty. Then they ran it on 2nd and 3rd down for 6 and 8 yards. Later on in the quarter after the Taylor INT they run for 2, 5, and then 4. Get a holding penalty on Nebraska, run it on 1st and goal and then throw it the next 2 downs to settle for a field goal. It was only 10-3 at the half. There was no need to throw the ball all over the place like that. That is why I think MSU paniced unnecessarily like Beck did in Wisconsin. Michigan St got beat up and worn down on defense because MSU's offense couldn't stay on the field to give them rest and we kept leaning on them and pounding the rock. We only had 101 yards in the first half but they were all rushing yards. We just wore them down for the 2nd half. You think Michigan St is one of the more physical teams in the country???? You must not watch as much college football as you claim.

Our defense looked really good but we will see if our rush defense really is better when we play Michigan and especially Penn St. Those 2 teams will NOT panic and abandon the run. And those 2 teams have RBs that are better then MSU's RBs.

They are FAR more physical than any of those pussy ass poser teams in the SEC......with the exception of Alabama and LSU

 

[chucksker]

^other than LSU and bama, the SEC sucks this year...like complete trash

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Also, it's one thing to question my opinions..........but please, please don't question my overall knowledge of college football. I live for college football..........I love it, and I try to analyze it as unbiased as I possibly can.

At the start of the year, I had Nebraska ranked at #23 in my top 25 poll

 

[chucksker]

Also, it's one thing to question my opinions..........but please, please don't question my overall knowledge of college football. I live for college football..........I love it, and I try to analyze it as unbiased as I possibly can.

At the start of the year, I had Nebraska ranked at #23 in my top 25 poll

HUSKERZ #1 DAMMIT!!!

 

[jedburks]

They are FAR more physical than any of those pussy ass poser teams in the SEC......with the exception of Alabama and LSU

MSU is not as physical as Georgia and South Carolina. I would almost say Arkansas as well but I just can't say that a Petrino team is physical. I wouldn't even say that MSU is more physical than Wisconsin even though they beat them. MSU caught alot of breaks in that Wisconsin game and I am not just talking about the hail mary.

If you claim that a MSU team that has some real flaws is one of the most physical teams in the country I will question your knowledge all day. I don't care where you had Nebraska ranked preseason. You are obviously letting your bias show with your hatred for the SEC. It is the best conference in the country. It just is.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Jed..........being physical and having flaws are two different things. MSU brings the wood on every play. They go all out......they play hard. They don't have the talent that Michigan has..........they don't have the talent that Ohio State has........but they play harder. I do not even see how you can disagree with that other than the fact that you are disagreeing just to disagree.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

The Big 10 is one of the more physical conferences..........and Michigan State is one of the more physical teams in the conference. It is just common sense........how can you not say they are a top 10 physical team in the country?

 

[jedburks]

They did not bring any physicality on Saturday. I can easily say they are not a top 10 physical team. Teams that are more physical than them week in and week out.

LSU
Alabama
Oklahoma
Georgia
South Carolina
Stanford
Nebraska (they are becoming a week in and week out physical team)
Arizona St is a very physical team
TCU
Wisconsin
Penn St
Boise St
Virginia Tech
Auburn

All those teams are either far more physical or slightly more or evenly physical. I would say all of those teams are more physical than MSU. Their OL is bad. Just flat out bad!!!

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Ok.........well, I was for the most part speaking on behalf of their defense. I guess I can admit their offense is not that physical. But there were a lot of players getting injured in that game on both sides of the ball for both teams.

But, if I may just bring this up.........if their OL is that bad, and Wisconsin is that much more physical than MSU, then why wasn't Wisconsin's DL able to get in and disrupt MSU's passing game in that matchup?

Cousins threw for 290 yards in that game against Wisconsin..........and it doesn't matter how soft coverage was.......if you have a physical enough defensive front, you will get pressure on that QB and force him to throw bad passes.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

And by the way, Bo Pelini must have been lying then when he said after the game that this is the most physical football team we will see this season.

 

[jedburks]

And I am talking about teams as a whole. That is why I included Wisconsin.

 

[jedburks]

And by the way, Bo Pelini must have been lying then when he said after the game that this is the most physical football team we will see this season.

I would not use the word lying. It is called coach speak.

 

[Brasky]

LMFAO Oklahoma is not a physical football team.

 

[Brasky]

Jed sometimes bullshit just spews from your fingertips.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

They did not bring any physicality on Saturday. I can easily say they are not a top 10 physical team. Teams that are more physical than them week in and week out.

LSU
Alabama
Oklahoma - NO
Georgia - NO
South Carolina
Stanford - LMFAO!!!!!!
Nebraska (they are becoming a week in and week out physical team)
Arizona St is a very physical team
TCU - NOT THIS YEAR......THIS IS 2011
Wisconsin - NO
Penn St
Boise St
Virginia Tech - NOT THIS YEAR.....THIS IS 2011
Auburn - ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!

All those teams are either far more physical or slightly more or evenly physical. I would say all of those teams are more physical than MSU. Their OL is bad. Just flat out bad!!!

Also, you should try to get Saturdays off from delivering Pepperoni Pizzas............because you obviously don't know what physical football looks like...........or maybe never played physical football before

 

[jedburks]

Also, you should try to get Saturdays off from delivering Pepperoni Pizzas............because you obviously don't know what physical football looks like...........or maybe never played physical football before

Saturdays are my only days off for a reason. Stanford is one of the 5 most physical teams in the country. People just hold the PAC 10/12 stigma against them. Arizona St is the same way. That Devil defense is VERY physical!!!!

 

[Brasky]

LMAO Jed see's Burfict play and automatically thinks they are physical as a whole.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I didn't disagree with you on Arizona State.........they are SO FUCKING MORE PHYSICAL than Staford though.

LOL @ Stanford allowing 48 points to a USC team that could only put up 19 points on Minnesota. Give me a break