Commanders News thread

[skinsdad62]

I will trust them when we are 11-6

 

[duke1861]

I will trust them when we are 11-6

At this point, after 17 games of film, I believe howell to be a top end back up in the league. He is not a bust because he was a 5th round pick.

I like howell but he does not seem to be progressing to me. I would have liked to have seen steady progression.

Yes, there were barriers: Oline, coaching staff in limbo, EB as a first time player caller.

That being said, there are always roadblocks and obstacles with every team in the nfl. Sometimes I get the mpression that we believe we are the only team with struggles. Other teams have rookie qbs, other teams have bad Olines, other teams have coaching issues as well.

However, the question remains, had howell done enough to be considered the starter for 2024 and the franchise qb? Forget the excuses...had he shown enough.

I believe that the answer is no. That doesn't mean I hate howell, want him cut, want him trades, etc. He simply is not growing in my opinion.

 

[redskinsfan1963]

At this point, after 17 games of film, I believe howell to be a top end back up in the league. He is not a bust because he was a 5th round pick.

I like howell but he does not seem to be progressing to me. I would have liked to have seen steady progression.

Yes, there were barriers: Oline, coaching staff in limbo, EB as a first time player caller.

That being said, there are always roadblocks and obstacles with every team in the nfl. Sometimes I get the mpression that we believe we are the only team with struggles. Other teams have rookie qbs, other teams have bad Olines, other teams have coaching issues as well.

However, the question remains, had howell done enough to be considered the starter for 2024 and the franchise qb? Forget the excuses...had he shown enough.

I believe that the answer is no. That doesn't mean I hate howell, want him cut, want him trades, etc. He simply is not growing in my opinion.

i don,t know if it,s coaching,but he,s taken taken huge steps backwards lately.

 

[skinsdad62]

Ok guys other then Sonny , who are these guys no google

 

[redskinsfan1963]

i forget the oarry broriginal line,but john wilbur was 60,larry brown 43,len hauss 00 i think harraway was 26

 

[skinsdad62]

i forget the oarry broriginal line,but john wilbur was 60,larry brown 43,len hauss 00 i think harraway was 26

Nope harraway was 31

 

[redskinsfan1963]

Nope harraway was 31

riggins was 26 when he first came to dc

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[redskinsfan1963]

i can,t see bienemy returning either

 

[Sportster 72]

60 Wilbur, 73 Laaveg, 26 Bob Brunet

 

[Stymietee]

Yep! Names under consideration are:

1. Lieutenants
2. Ensigns
And
3. Seamen

(Gotta keep that military theme!)

 

[redskinsfan1963]

this is one of the only times i can think of there is,nt a pro bowler from washington.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[redskinsfan1963]

i would,nt ever expose any kid to major tuddy.he,s he creepiest mascot in the nfl.congrats on a beautiful baby btw

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[redskinsfan1963]

fansided has washington taking maye at two.

 

[skinsdad62]

Washington Commanders Tank Tracker 2023 – Week 18

Can the Commanders hold onto second place?

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Offensive Tackles​

In the past decade, only two OTs have been taken in the top four picks: Andrew Thomas (Giants 2020 #4) and Greg Robinson (St Louis Rams 2014 #2). It does not appear that NFL teams have been valuing OTs in recent drafts as highly as some Commanders’ fans appear to think. Of the two, Thomas is developing into a top-tier franchise left tackle while Robinson failed to live up to expectations. That gives an apparent hit rate of 50%, but the sample size is too small for that to be meaningful.

In the same period, seven OTs have been taken at the fifth through seventh picks: Paris Johnson (Arizona 2023 #6), Ikem Ekwonu (Carolina 2022 #6), Evan Neal (2022 Giants #7), Penei Sewell (Detroit 2021 #7), Ronnie Stanley (Ravens 2016 #6), Brandon Scherff (Redskins 2015 #5), Jake Matthews (Falcons 2014 #6). Of those seven players, three have established themselves as high end starting OTs (Sewell, Stanley, Matthews). Scherff became a franchise player at guard, not OT. Ekwonu and Neal have struggled in their first two years, and appear to be poised to join Scherff inside at guard. Paris Johnson struggled in his first year with the Cardinals, which is normal for OTs and is still too young to judge.

If Johnson comes good, the hit rate for OTs in this draft range would be 57%, but if he doesn’t it would drop to 42.9%. There is no obvious difference between OTs drafted at picks 2 to 4 vs 5 to 7, except that more OTs are drafted in the later range.

Furthermore, in the past 10 drafts, the first OT off the board has only turned out to be best in class twice (2021 Penei Sewell #7; 2020 Andrew Thomas #4). Over that same period, the best OT in class was drafted after the first two were off the board five times (2015 RT Rob Havenstein #57/LT Trent Brown #244; 2018 LT/RT Orlando Brown #83; 2019 RT Kaleb McGary #31; 2022 LT Charles Cross #9/LT Braxton Jones #168, 2023 RT Dawand Jones #111 in early return