Commanders News thread

[kbso83432]

I don't see any "splash" signings outside the organization for rest of FA. the best thing that is happening is that there "should not" be reaching in this draft with these signings. They can take BPA at 16 or trade down and acquire more picks to play more darts.

Feels like they are probably working to get Heinicke back right now. Keim tweeted something to that effect earlier.

 

[Sportster 72]

Feels like they are probably working to get Heinicke back right now. Keim tweeted something to that effect earlier.

I would be okay with that. I would expect him to be the backup. He doesn't have Howell's arm talent and I think Howell is a better runner.

 

[dcrising]

Feels like they are probably working to get Heinicke back right now. Keim tweeted something to that effect earlier.

interesting. not sure how i feel about it.

 

[Rowdy]

Feels like they are probably working to get Heinicke back right now. Keim tweeted something to that effect earlier.

To the falcons

 

[kbso83432]

 

[kbso83432]

To the falcons

I think it makes sense for all parties involved. A certain portion of the fanbase is not mature enough to allow Howell to throw an INT without chanting for Heinicke.

Heinicke gets a fresh start and knows he's wanted where he's at.

 

[deanpet21]

Falcons signed QB Taylor Heinicke, formerly of the Commanders.​

Among the least accurate and weakest armed quarterbacks in the NFL, Heinicke could easily be Atlanta's Week 1 starter if it comes down to an offseason competition between him and Desmond Ridder. Heinicke started 24 games for Washington over the past two years, throwing 32 touchdowns and 21 interceptions while demonstrating a willingness to scramble. Ideally, Heinicke, entering his age-30 season, would function as a backup in the run-first Falcons offense.
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You have to love the first sentence in this post. I hope we go after Minshew.

 

[deanpet21]

or the #Falcons and Taylor Heinicke, it’s a two-year deal worth up to $20 million, per source. Atlanta has said Desmond Ridder is the starter, and that's top-end backup money. https://t.co/6OctczWRPj

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 14, 2023

 

[gkekoa]

WOW....I don't understand that. Simply grabbing Wylie and Gates as depth is NOT near enough IMO. A CB will help, but doesn't solve the main problem with the team. Rivera is dead set on having the best defense in the league I guess.

Howell will still be running for his life..UNLESS...we grab some more players in free agency. Keim said he thinks we shift to "keeping our own". Whatever that means.

So you think we should just replace everybody? A whole new OL? That is not reasonable.

Charles Leno was not the problem last season. Do we need an upgrade? Perhaps in the long run but he is not the problem.

Chris Paul did pretty well at LG.

Chase Roullier, if healthy is a very good center. That is likely why we brought in Gates. Gates can play center or guard.

RG is Sam Cosmi.

RT is Wylie.


That is a much improved line. We can also pickup more OL in the draft. I see round one as corner because that is where the talent is going to be at our pick. You don’t panic and make bad choices in the draft. Second round, I can see a tackle/guard being taken.

 

[duke1861]

So you think we should just replace everybody? A whole new OL? That is not reasonable.

Charles Leno was not the problem last season. Do we need an upgrade? Perhaps in the long run but he is not the problem.

Chris Paul did pretty well at LG.

Chase Roullier, if healthy is a very good center. That is likely why we brought in Gates. Gates can play center or guard.

RG is Sam Cosmi.

RT is Wylie.


That is a much improved line. We can also pickup more OL in the draft. I see round one as corner because that is where the talent is going to be at our pick. You don’t panic and make bad choices in the draft. Second round, I can see a tackle/guard being taken.

I have said several times we cannot replace everyone. But the problem remains...we had a terrible OLine and a poor offense. The poor offense was driven by the QB and poor OLine. What are the solutions?

The QB portion is allegedly getting addressed with having Howell start.

The OLine coach is still employed, so I don't think the front office feels it was his fault or lack of coaching.

Leno played ok, but I feel an upgrade is needed...especially with a rookie QB being out there. Leno is probably the 2nd best OLineman behind Wylie now.

Paul played ok, but we don't know if he is a long-term answer. He only started 2 games I believe. He only played 66 total snaps last year.

Roullier needs to be cut. Again, I am not interested in having a player who is injury prone being depended on.

Hopefully, Cosmi works out at Guard, again, it will be a new position for him.

Wylie should do well at RT.

I would not say the line is MUC improved as we have most of the same players out there. You have to admit that we treat the OLine and DLine completely different and I don't understand that. The draft capital and money is getting thrown at the DLine. Rivera has it in his head that he must have an elite DLine but strains to make the OLine work. I am sure this is one of the many reasons why he has not secured a winning season yet in his tenure with Washington. I disagree with his philosophy.

 

[kbso83432]

 

[kbso83432]

Its starting to feel like Leno is coming back at LT. Skoronski at LG or Torrence at LG could be possibilities.

Still hoping the can grab one of the TEs either in the 2nd or 3rd.

 

[gkekoa]

I have said several times we cannot replace everyone. But the problem remains...we had a terrible OLine and a poor offense. The poor offense was driven by the QB and poor OLine. What are the solutions?

The QB portion is allegedly getting addressed with having Howell start.

The OLine coach is still employed, so I don't think the front office feels it was his fault or lack of coaching.

Leno played ok, but I feel an upgrade is needed...especially with a rookie QB being out there. Leno is probably the 2nd best OLineman behind Wylie now.

Paul played ok, but we don't know if he is a long-term answer. He only started 2 games I believe. He only played 66 total snaps last year.

Roullier needs to be cut. Again, I am not interested in having a player who is injury prone being depended on.

Hopefully, Cosmi works out at Guard, again, it will be a new position for him.

Wylie should do well at RT.

I would not say the line is MUC improved as we have most of the same players out there. You have to admit that we treat the OLine and DLine completely different and I don't understand that. The draft capital and money is getting thrown at the DLine. Rivera has it in his head that he must have an elite DLine but strains to make the OLine work. I am sure this is one of the many reasons why he has not secured a winning season yet in his tenure with Washington. I disagree with his philosophy.

We have a new RT, a developed LG, possibly a new center, and a new RG. That is four new OL.

Do we treat OL and DL differently? or have the circumstances dictated the treatment? I would suggest that we have taken DL because that is where the BPA was. We have resigned our DL because they were our picks and excelled on our team. The exception is Scherff who was an over 30 overpay.

 

[deanpet21]

Its starting to feel like Leno is coming back at LT. Skoronski at LG or Torrence at LG could be possibilities.

Still hoping the can grab one of the TEs either in the 2nd or 3rd.

Torrence should be there at 16, im not sure Skoronski will be there.

 

[kbso83432]

Torrence should be there at 16, im not sure Skoronski will be there.

Keim just said on Sheehan this morning that LT and LG are still possibilities at 16.

 

[deanpet21]

Keim just said on Sheehan this morning that LT and LG are still possibilities at 16.

Even if we did take a LT, I think Leno still stays on the roster.

 

[kbso83432]

Even if we did take a LT, I think Leno still stays on the roster.

If they go LT gotta think Leno is gone. Jmo

 

[deanpet21]

If they go LT gotta think Leno is gone. Jmo

Possibly or they can move Cosmi and Wylie to og's and put Leno at RT.

 

[duke1861]

We have a new RT, a developed LG, possibly a new center, and a new RG. That is four new OL.

Do we treat OL and DL differently? or have the circumstances dictated the treatment? I would suggest that we have taken DL because that is where the BPA was. We have resigned our DL because they were our picks and excelled on our team. The exception is Scherff who was an over 30 overpay.

We will have to respectfully agree to disagree.

I don't think re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic does much to solve anything. Just my opinion.

I think starting 2 Guards with limited to hardly any experience in front of a rookie QB is irresponsible. Cosmi played 1 game at Guard and has had an up-and-down career in general so far in the league. Paul literally has played 66 snaps in the league. Who knows what we have in him? He might be the next Russ Grimm? This is not the point to take chances and leaps of faith when we have a rookie QB.

I also think having a potential starter at Center who has played a total of 12 games in two years is too risky. I am fine with Gates as a spot starter or utility OLineman but I would hesitate to put him, Cosmi, and Paul as the interior OLine. To me, that literally makes no sense.

I see the point on BPA with DLine and that is why I am never advocated BPA when it comes to draft. You don't take 4 straight DLinemen in the draft. How has that worked out for us? It hasn't. You and I have disagreed about this for years so there is no need to go down that path.

To me, Rivera had 1 job this offseason and 1 job only: address the OLine. We are in Day 2 and we still have the draft. Rivera could add some starters and we could have the OLine as a rock of the offense. Who knows...it could happen. What I do know is that throwing even more money and more high draft picks at the #3 overall defense is simply collecting talent IMO.

However, if the reports of focusing on our own and CB at 16, then he has failed. His tactics have not worked in DC and he has had full say of the roster. This will be the 4th offseason I have completely disagreed with what he has done. The previous 3 seasons ended up with losing records or a .500 record being last in the division. Needless to say, I am excited that we will have a GM next year instead of someone who pretends to be one. This team deserves better.

 

[skinsdad62]

So you think we should just replace everybody? A whole new OL? That is not reasonable.

Charles Leno was not the problem last season. Do we need an upgrade? Perhaps in the long run but he is not the problem.

Chris Paul did pretty well at LG.

Chase Roullier, if healthy is a very good center. That is likely why we brought in Gates. Gates can play center or guard.

RG is Sam Cosmi.

RT is Wylie.


That is a much improved line. We can also pickup more OL in the draft. I see round one as corner because that is where the talent is going to be at our pick. You don’t panic and make bad choices in the draft. Second round, I can see a tackle/guard being taken.

We aren’t done with the o/line but we aren’t locked into it in round one . Let’s not kid ourselves into thinking Leno and Wylie are anymore then avg though . Chase Roullier has had back to back career threatening the last 2 years in a row so I would look at center for sure