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[skinsdad62]

$60+ million a year?

Yikes

 

[skinz2winz]

Its for 3 years which is about how long the window will be open for this current group before most depart via FA. I am not advocating for the team to sign this deal but merely suggesting that a short-term deal with guaranteed money might be the way to go if Lamar is a potential option in DC. If RR is being truthful, it's Howell and a cheap vet like Brissett. If that is the direction we go, then use the funds/draft to sign 3 OL, TE, CB & LB and let's roll...

 

[Stymietee]

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On a side note Sty, what would it take to get Lamar in here on a fully guaranteed 3 year deal? Besides a trade of course.







I'm thinking 3 years $200m guaranteed at signing would do it. Benefits both parties as we are out afterani

can resign another deal on the right side of 30.It's going to cost us Thoughts?



I tried copying the link but to no avail. Questions related to the following:

Treatment of Families
Nutrition
Weight Room
Strength Staff
Training Room
Training Staff
Locker Room
Travel
On a side note Sty, what would it take to get Lamar in here on a fully guaranteed 3 year deal? Besides a trade of course.

I'm thinking 3 years $200m guaranteed at signing would do it. Benefits both parties as we are out after 3 and LIt will cost at minimum amar can resign another deal on the right side of 30. Thoughts?

 

[Stymietee]

I tried copying the link but to no avail. Questions related to the following:

• Treatment of Families
• Nutrition
• Weight Room
• Strength Staff
• Training Room
• Training Staff
• Locker Room
• Travel

On a side note Sty, what would it take to get Lamar in here on a fully guaranteed 3 year deal? Besides a trade of course.
I'm thinking 3 years $200m guaranteed at signing would do it. Benefits both parties as we are out after 3 and Lamar can resign another deal on the right side of 30. Thoughts?

First, it will absolutely take a minimum of 2-3 first-round draft picks, without a trade he's going nowhere. So now the team would have to pay him and we begin that process with a few well-set precedents.
1. Generally, top-ranked QBs signing new deals get the privilege of being, if only temporarily, the highest-paid QB in the league.
2. Right now (2023) that guy is Aaron Rodgers who gets an AAV: totaling 50.3M per year.
3. NFL owners are currently fighting against an ongoing tide of fully guaranteed QB contracts that literally began with Kirk Cousins (3 years 84M) AAV: 35M
Since that Cousins contract the guaranteed money has averaged 3.33M in increases over the previous high water mark. (There was a jump of 10M from Kirk to Stafford, Prescott, and Carr but on average these increases amount to 3.33M if you factor them all in your calculation)

Your offer of 3 years 200M fully guaranteed sets a new precedent that would get any owner of the team offering it murdered!! Not the funny ha-ha, I'm going to kill your ass kinda jokey-joke thing, but an honest-to-goodness, this MFka has got to go real shit disappearance. The AAV of such an offer is 66.7M a full 16.4M increase over Rodger's 50.3M. I'm not ready to do that so here's my offer scale, depending on an agreement on the number of years and we'll work out bonuses and such for cap reasons.

AAV: 53.5...
3 years 160.5 fully guaranteed (he'll reject this)
5 years 267M fully guaranteed
10 years and I'm doing the Patrick Mahomes contract structure.

OR

AAV: 55M...
3 years 165 fully guaranteed (he'll reject this too)
5 years 275 fully guaranteed
10 and again I'm doing the Mahomes structure.

My range is somewhere between 53. 5M AAV and 55M AAV, anything more and I'll wish him well playing elsewhere.

 

[skinz2winz]

First, it will absolutely take a minimum of 2-3 first-round draft picks, without a trade he's going nowhere. So now the team would have to pay him and we begin that process with a few well-set precedents.
1. Generally, top-ranked QBs signing new deals get the privilege of being, if only temporarily, the highest-paid QB in the league.
2. Right now (2023) that guy is Aaron Rodgers who gets an AAV: totaling 50.3M per year.
3. NFL owners are currently fighting against an ongoing tide of fully guaranteed QB contracts that literally began with Kirk Cousins (3 years 84M) AAV: 35M
Since that Cousins contract the guaranteed money has averaged 3.33M in increases over the previous high water mark. (There was a jump of 10M from Kirk to Stafford, Prescott, and Carr but on average these increases amount to 3.33M if you factor them all in your calculation)

Your offer of 3 years 200M fully guaranteed sets a new precedent that would get any owner of the team offering it murdered!! Not the funny ha-ha, I'm going to kill your ass kinda jokey-joke thing, but an honest-to-goodness, this MFka has got to go real shit disappearance. The AAV of such an offer is 66.7M a full 16.4M increase over Rodger's 50.3M. I'm not ready to do that so here's my offer scale, depending on an agreement on the number of years and we'll work out bonuses and such for cap reasons.

AAV: 53.5...
3 years 160.5 fully guaranteed (he'll reject this)
5 years 267M fully guaranteed
10 years and I'm doing the Patrick Mahomes contract structure.

OR

AAV: 55M...
3 years 165 fully guaranteed (he'll reject this too)
5 years 275 fully guaranteed
10 and again I'm doing the Mahomes structure.

My range is somewhere between 53. 5M AAV and 55M AAV, anything more and I'll wish him well playing elsewhere.

My thought was making the shorter contract offer most attractive because he can garner a new deal after 3 years while still under 30 yrs of age and where will the AAV be in year 2026? We are talking about Lamar Jackson here, not a washed up AR12 and his weirdness that comes with him.

What 3 year offer would it take to entice LJ? Lamar has to also consider its buyer is giving up 2-3 first round picks that equal substantial value on top of his guaranteed money. What's another $10M on the 3 year deal, ($58.3 AAV) let's get it done, lol...

 

[skinsdad62]

 

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[Stymietee]

Confidence and effort come in degrees and these numbers give us some indication of both playing a role whether done consciously or unconsciously in reaction to working conditions.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

this is also true

 

[kbso83432]

 

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[kbso83432]

I think you have to at least call his agent.

 

[Rowdy]

All ravens need to do is draft Richardson, younger more athletic LJ, and has potential to be a better passer

 

[Stymietee]

I think you have to at least call his agent.

Correct! and if they are smart (big question marks about that) they would not only offer the guaranteed contract but appeal to his sense of family stability because of the current location of their home. (Owings Mills, MD) Probably wouldn't have to move at all if he signs with Washington because the distance between the two is 52 miles. (Distance between Baltimore and Owings Mills, MD is 20 miles)

 

[Stymietee]

All ravens need to do is draft Richardson, younger more athletic LJ, and has potential to be a better passer

It really wouldn't be a bad countermove by the Ravens if they actually lose Jackson. That said, there are rumors that Richardson is the human form of viagra for Ron Rivera!

 

[skinsdad62]

I think you have to at least call his agent.

Lamar is his agent

 

[kbso83432]

Correct! and if they are smart (big question marks about that) they would not only offer the guaranteed contract but appeal to his sense of family stability because of the current location of their home. (Owings Mills, MD) Probably wouldn't have to move at all if he signs with Washington because the distance between the two is 52 miles. (Distance between Baltimore and Owings Mills, MD is 20 miles)

Everyone talks about the Ravens not wanting to send him down the street, but they would be sending him to the NFC. Maybe they would be worried all the Skins fans that left for them would come back.

Sounds like the budget thing is real, if the Skins are already out. It can't be because of Howell. He got a start because TH passed. Oh well.

 

[kbso83432]

Lamar is his agent

That's right! I forgot

 

[Stymietee]

Everyone talks about the Ravens not wanting to send him down the street, but they would be sending him to the NFC. Maybe they would be worried all the Skins fans that left for them would come back.

Sounds like the budget thing is real, if the Skins are already out. It can't be because of Howell. He got a start because TH passed. Oh well.

Correct!! Washington is NFc and that should be attractive to the Ravens as well. The demographic region is the bigger issue as you've stated.