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nathans8823
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is most of it about SoS?Screw that, read the first few pages skip to the end, wont be missing much.
is most of it about SoS?Screw that, read the first few pages skip to the end, wont be missing much.
Is UL better than TAMU? I dont know. Is FL St better than than the beat down they took @ UL? Is the ACC better over-all than the SEC? Discuss...If they reward SOS...Shouldn't Clemson be ahead of Bama?
Sorry, I couldn't answer but one.Is UL better than TAMU? I dont know. Is FL St better than than the beat down they took @ UL? YES! Is the ACC better over-all than the SEC? Discuss...
Damnit! We need an 8 team playoff!
Agreed... a 4 team playoff just is boring... its almost not even a playoffI think 99% would think 8 team playoff would be fair....
Oh I know it was just a message. This thing is a TV show and they have power. I'm not worried about where UW is ranked. I was just pointing out that the more UCLA loses the worse that argument that A&M had a better OOC is just false. At the time we scheduled Rutgers they just came off a 9-4 season. It's not like they scheduled some doormat that had been down for some time and isn't likely to get up off the mat.The committee is simply sending a message. You better TRY to play an opponent with a name (or a pulse) or you could be left out. If this poll was the final one, UW would be in. This is simply tinkering with the formula to push an agenda of "stop scheduling all crap OOC teams". I'm sure they thought moving Baylor from 3 to 6 after a win a couple of years ago would have sent the message, but since it didn't they are using UW as the bully pulpit now.
When it matters, the correct teams we all know deserve to be there will be there. Until then, this is just the voters using a stick to push people towards more interesting OOC games.
These things are scheduled way too far in advance IMO which always leaves these issues.
No. If you are going to have cupcakes do it early. How you play late in the season matters more. Raise the difficulty later.I wonder if UW would have swapped the timing of say the USC game with the Portland St. game.
Assuming UW beats SC.
I'm not saying what is best for a team, I was wondering about perceived perception. We know that losses early in the season are better than late in terms of rankingsNo. If you are going to have cupcakes do it early. How you play late in the season matters more. Raise the difficulty later.
I would like to see the committee make a statement and punish SEC teams for late season cupcakes at some point, but that would take some kind of perfect storm. Two even teams otherwise with one that had a tougher late year schedule. That would be the ultimate fix for that, but I'm not holding my breath it ever happens.
I think we are seeing Cohen going back to the Don James formula of scheduling an A team B team and C team for OOC. Picking up Auburn when you already had BYU on that year says a lot.
Good point. I'm beginning to think the schools should flip flop their schedules. Play conference games first and finish off with cupcakes. Use Baylor as an example. Their schedule would have been:I wonder if UW would have swapped the timing of say the USC game with the Portland St. game.
Assuming UW beats SC.
How can Texas A&M have a stronger case for a better SOS, after UCLA lost last night?SOS is important. And should be considered. Washington feels they have been slighted, and is understandable. At this point, the Aggies have a stronger case.
Just win and all of this will work itself out.
If a ranked team in your conference has to lose early, it might as well be to a conference opponent. We know that preseason rankings are bullshit, so we might as well give perceived "quality" early season wins to our own conference.Good point. I'm beginning to think the schools should flip flop their schedules. Play conference games first and finish off with cupcakes. Use Baylor as an example. Their schedule would have been:
@West Virginia
Texas Tech (Jerry's World)
Kansas State
@Oklahoma
TCU
@Texas
Bye
Kansas
Bye
@Iowa State
Oklahoma State
@Rice
SMU
Northwestern State
My bet is they wouldn't have been undefeated by the time they got to Texas and we wouldn't have had the bullshit high ranking they did. If they had been, they'd have earned it. JMO.
And you get to play the cupcakes when your team is all beat up instead of the conference opponents.If a ranked team in your conference has to lose early, it might as well be to a conference opponent. We know that preseason rankings are bullshit, so we might as well give perceived "quality" early season wins to our own conference.
SEC West maybe? Seems to work for Arkie and Old Miss.How can Texas A&M have a stronger case for a better SOS, after UCLA lost last night?
I would play the cupcake week 2. That way if you do lose, you are almost guaranteed a bounce back win.And you get to play the cupcakes when your team is all beat up instead of the conference opponents.
Problem is those cupcakes might take advantage of a beat up team and win. But, odds are they are beat up too!
Maybe?SEC West maybe? Seems to work for Arkie and Old Miss.