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I'd say he gets a game for that (based only on what has happened earlier this year).

Stajan might just be a fake artist though.:p
 

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Sorry Dash.... but that's a good hit. He hit him from the front, and targets the chest. These aren't the types of hits the new rule is supposed to eliminate.
 

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elbow came up, little late, 'blind side' (questionable). should be a game or so...
 

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Sorry Dash.... but that's a good hit. He hit him from the front, and targets the chest. These aren't the types of hits the new rule is supposed to eliminate.

I say that's a good hit too Dacks. I also thought there was nothing wrong with Thornton's hit and he got two games.

I can't imagine trying to play the fastest team sport out there with the uncertainty of the officiating and discipline departments of the NHL.
 

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Sorry Dash.... but that's a good hit. He hit him from the front, and targets the chest. These aren't the types of hits the new rule is supposed to eliminate.

What part of Stajan's head whiplashing back did you miss, Dacks? Also, Staal's feet appear to be off the ice. That was the definition of a predatory hit.
 

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Did Staal get a penalty on the play?

No penalty on the play...which will likely mean no suspension. The fact that he's a member of the Rags also factors into it with Czar Campbell.
 

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What part of Stajan's head whiplashing back did you miss, Dacks? Also, Staal's feet appear to be off the ice. That was the definition of a predatory hit.

Okay, there was contact to the head. But that's not illegal:

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact is not permitted.

I don't think it was blindside. A defensemen stepped up to hit a forward coming into the zone. Just because you're not looking doesn't make it blindside.

I also don't think the head was the principal point or targeted. Staal made as much as an effort as he could to hit the whole body in that situation.

What is the purpose of this new rule? To eliminate backchecking forwards from clipping guys in the head who couldn't protect themselves. Not to eliminate bone-crushing hits from D who step up at the right time.

I also disagree with Thornton's suspension, FWIW.
 

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Take a look at the position of Stajan and Staal prior to the hit:

stajan_before.jpg


Now take a look when contact is made:

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Despite with the homer NYR announcers would have you believe, that's about as east-west as you can go (aka lateral) to deliver a head shot.
 

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Take a look at the position of Stajan and Staal prior to the hit:

stajan_before.jpg


Now take a look when contact is made:

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Despite with the homer NYR announcers would have you believe, that's about as east-west as you can go (aka lateral) to deliver a head shot.

Oh come on, Dash. Richards on Booth was East-West. Cooke on that little fake artist was East-West. At WORST it was a 45 degree angle, which puts us smack dab in between the two.

If you want to eliminate any contact with the head, then yes, hits like this have to go. I don't. And I don't think that's the point of the rule either.
 

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Well, Dacks, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Maybe Staal meant to deliver more of a body blow and something missed up his timing and aim (he's not a dirty player, so I think there could be something to that). At any rate, I think that hit deserves at least a one game suspension.
 

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lol...Who keeps refilling that popcorn bowl? Is it you, IPW? That deer is never gonna go away if you keep feeding it.
 
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Sorry, no entertainment for you today! Dash and I are too civil. That's what happens when you're screenname starts with the same syllable.

I agree, Dash, that we'll have to agree to disagree, if you find that agreeable.
 

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No problem, Dacks, I feel bad for Stajan because that's twice he's had his melon rocked this season. I have a feeling he could be out of the lineup for a long time.
 

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That deserves two games at least.....only because Joe Thornton's hit wasn't half as bad as that. So he'll probably either just get a fine or 7 games.
 
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There was nothing wrong with the hit, in my opinion. That's a shoulder to the chest, and any contact with the head was incidental. Staal's knees were bent and he was in a full crouch on contact. He was doing everything in his power to not hit him in the head. He's just taller than Stajan. He also didn't leave his feet until after the contact, which is legal because it's just physics. And even when he did, his left skate barely came off the ice and his right skate went more backwards than up.

I also thought it was a hit at about 45 degrees. Staal retreated a few strides before coming toward Stajan, which allowed him to get mostly shoulder on chest. If he gets a suspension, it's not deserved, just like the Thornton hit.
 
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