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Coffee Talk: I Should Have Had a V-8

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PP being called to the conservative headquarters

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lol - There is a possibility that an elected Conservative decides to hand out his seat over to PP because as we all know, the Conservative are all about handouts.
 

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Not sure why but this seems fitting for PP...

 

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Reading that close to 68% of registered voters did cast a vote in the Canadian election. That's not too shabby.
 

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I don't understand why we don't give a 50 dollar tax break for voting. They can track who voted, they can easily cut 50 bucks off that person's taxes.

If we had 90 to 100% of eligible voters actually voting, it would be a lot different. the only group that votes every time are the bitter ones with an axe to grind.
 

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I don't understand why we don't give a 50 dollar tax break for voting. They can track who voted, they can easily cut 50 bucks off that person's taxes.

If we had 90 to 100% of eligible voters actually voting, it would be a lot different. the only group that votes every time are the bitter ones with an axe to grind.
in Canada we have to give employees up to 3 hours paid time off to go vote. Yesterday, I was asked should we make a company wide announcement on slack to let everyone know and I said no ... I probably should be voting Conservative lol
 

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We should have a day off for voting, and any ID needed for voting should be free and easy to obtain. I cannot the original article I read years ago but this has some good points. Lots of people in the country cannot fathom that some people working paycheck to paycheck may not easily be able to afford getting a government issued ID. Especially when it might involve taking off of work, arranging travel someplace and not being hurt by the travel cost and loss of work cost.
With dumbass making changes, its only going to get worse.

Ten states now have unprecedented restrictive voter ID laws. Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Wisconsin all require citizens to produce specific types of government-issued photo identification before they can cast a vote that will count. Legal precedent requires these states to provide free photo ID to eligible voters who do not have one.

Unfortunately, these free IDs are not equally accessible to all voters. This report is the first comprehensive assessment of the difficulties that eligible voters face in obtaining free photo ID.

The 11 percent of eligible voters who lack the required photo ID must travel to a designated government office to obtain one. Yet many citizens will have trouble making this trip. In the 10 states with restrictive voter ID laws:



  • Nearly 500,000 eligible voters do not have access to a vehicle and live more than 10 miles from the nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. Many of them live in rural areas with dwindling public transportation options.
  • More than 10 million eligible voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week.
  • 1.2 million eligible black voters and 500,000 eligible Hispanic voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. People of color are more likely to be disenfranchised by these laws since they are less likely to have photo ID than the general population.
  • Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month. But only four months in 2012 — February, May, August, and October — have five Wednesdays. In other states — Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas — many part-time ID-issuing offices are in the rural regions with the highest concentrations of people of color and people in poverty.

More than 1 million eligible voters in these states fall below the federal poverty line and live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. These voters may be particularly affected by the significant costs of the documentation required to obtain a photo ID. Birth certificates can cost between $8 and $25. Marriage licenses, required for married women whose birth certificates include a maiden name, can cost between $8 and $20. By comparison, the notorious poll tax — outlawed during the civil rights era — cost $10.64 in current dollars.

The result is plain: Voter ID laws will make it harder for hundreds of thousands of poor Americans to vote. They place a serious burden on a core constitutional right that should be universally available to every American citizen.

This November, restrictive voter ID states will provide 127 electoral votes — nearly half of the 270 needed to win the presidency. Therefore, the ability of eligible citizens without photo ID to obtain one could have a major influence on the outcome of the 2012 election.


$30 and loss of a day or part of a day plus travel costs is a lot to some people.
 

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^ also I know this might sound crazy that some people might be really hurt by $30 and missing a day of work, but it can be true.

I was relatively poor when I moved out of my mother's house. But I was never going to go hungry or not be able to afford a doctor's visit because I had a support system. Not a wealthy one, but one that could give me food money or pay my rent (lol $400 then) if I needed help. Not everyone has that.
 

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^ A co-worker in GA. Where ID’s are required to vote helps with a program to drive people to get their ID’s.

He started helping in this when he first moved to GA, as his wife learned the hard way how hard it was to get an ID in GA. Her PA license wasn’t good enough and had to get all supporting documents showing her last name changes. Worst part he is her second marriage so she had to go dig up documents from over 20 years ago proving her maiden name, first marriage, divorce and second marriage.

On the other hand he is a white male and had no issues at all.

The BS in this country requiring IDs but making it hard to obtain is awful. The same with passports, if they ever become required, they better be cheaper and easier to obtain.
 
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