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Coffee Talk: I Should Have Had a V-8

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Bottom line is we can’t just keep living under a stupid threat of tariffs and annexation. If Trump doesn’t commit to permanently removing any possibility of either you leave the ones Trudeau announced today in place until he does.
honestly, having made an effort to move away from USA products and services, - even if the tariffs come off, I'm not going back.
guessing a ton of other people are feeling the same.

the trust is gone, and that's irreparable.
 

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honestly, having made an effort to move away from USA products and services, - even if the tariffs come off, I'm not going back.
guessing a ton of other people are feeling the same.

the trust is gone, and that's irreparable.

It's going to take some time to change this trajectory...

 

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I found this post on a reddit board and I thought it was spot on, so I thought I would post it here...

It’s not just that they were mad about inflation. It’s that they were so mad, they didn’t even care about the solution. They just wanted to punish the party in power.

Harris wanted to ban price gouging, raise wages, invest in education, infrastructure, and US workers. She wanted to give child tax credits to people in need. She wanted to cut costs on drugs. I could go on. None of this mattered. She was representing both the party and administration in power. So left leaning independents stayed home, right leaning independents showed up, and middle ground voters went to Trump.

This election opened my eyes to both 2020 and 2016. I thought 2016 was a referendum on the Clintons, the DNC, and the people the Obama administration left behind. I thought 2020 was a referendum on Trump as much as it was a referendum on the handling of Covid. In reality, it was just a referendum on the party in power. People fell through the cracks during the recession recovery and democrats paid for it. Covid ruined the economy and republicans paid for it.

The substance in policy isn’t even relevant. Most voters lean left, when you go issue by issue. They just don’t care enough to vote. What matters is whether or not there’s a perception of a problem. If there is, the party in power is doomed. We’ve seen this globally. And it’s why the party in power gets destroyed every midterm election. Now we’re seeing it in presidential elections every cycle.

Harris didn’t run a perfect campaign. But she ran a way better campaign than Trump. She knocked on more doors. Reached out to independents and disaffected republicans. She gave in depth progressive solutions that would solve a bunch of problems and make life better for tens of millions. It. Didn’t. Matter. Why? Because inflation exists and democrats were in power, when it was at its worst. So they get punished.
 

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One of the best analogies I've seen
 

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Some FB "friend" just listed a bunch of Trump's "accomplishments" on one of my posts and asked how I could be against them.
He prefaced his post by "I do admit I'm not 100% pleased with how all of this is going (primarily because im a fed that works for cms)".
I responded "I'm sorry you aren't 100% pleased because now they are doing things that might affect you. Hopefully everything will be OK."

He didn't realize I was mocking him and liked my post. Kind of makes it better, kind of makes it worse.
 

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Some FB "friend" just listed a bunch of Trump's "accomplishments" on one of my posts and asked how I could be against them.
He prefaced his post by "I do admit I'm not 100% pleased with how all of this is going (primarily because im a fed that works for cms)".
I responded "I'm sorry you aren't 100% pleased because now they are doing things that might affect you. Hopefully everything will be OK."

He didn't realize I was mocking him and liked my post. Kind of makes it better, kind of makes it worse.
If they aren't from the south you could add in a "bless your heart" and they would actually think you are being nice to them.
 

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Trump drones on for longer than any SOTU or similar speech ever. And I mean droned. Nothing of substance was said last night.

And yet Democrats still found a way to come off worse. Hakeem Jeffries told his party not to interrupt, not to use props, use silence as any disagreement. He knows the party needs time to figure this all out and not make it worse. And nobody listened to him.

Pelosi would be shooting people today.
 

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Knowing how the park gets around Gatlinburg in spring and summer this is going to be brutal. And yet again the majority of people who visit the tourist trap (Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge) with an occasional ride through the national park are the same idiots that voted for him. They will all be bitching when the shitters aren't clean or even closed. Then the parking areas around the popular spots, which get super busy, will just become trash infested hellholes.
 
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