Coach Gile on Kaps offseason workout

[Crimsoncrew]

Besides, bradys one of you guys. CA kid. Niner fan. Had montana posters over his bed.

It's true. His breakout game in HS came against my school - they showed highlights of it before one of his early SBs, and I saw guys I knew getting burned for TDs - but I don't hold it against him. I like Brady a lot as a player, though I'm not a big fan of the Pats these days. Really liked them when they won their first two.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

As far as Kaep is concerned, I am extremely impressed more by the word spoken by Coach Giles about Kaep then I am that Kaep is working on his weaknesses. We all knew his work ethic is incredible, but to hear details on the character of the man was at least a little bit calming for me.

Yeah, that's what most people who have had a lot of contact with him say. I'd like to see a bit less douchiness from him on a daily basis, though. As far as the passing stuff, we'll see. Hopefully it took. The guy could still be great if he can put it together, but I would have liked to have seen him taking this step last offseason if not sooner.

 

[Cut My Red I Bleed Gold]

Yeah, that's what most people who have had a lot of contact with him say. I'd like to see a bit less douchiness from him on a daily basis, though. As far as the passing stuff, we'll see. Hopefully it took. The guy could still be great if he can put it together, but I would have liked to have seen him taking this step last offseason if not sooner.

I agree...if he can knock off the bullshit and focus he could be pretty special. His athleticism and work ethic were never questioned, who knows maybe he just needed a different way of looking at things from a coaching perspective. It seems like the relationship between the FO and much of the coaching staff was far more disjointed than we all really knew. Shit rolls downhill all the way to the players sometimes.

 

[purguy12]

i'm glad i was able to teach you something.

tomorrow, tune into "how montana had jerry rice among others" on his title winning teams...meanwhile, brady had a converted QB as his #1 WR.

Just stop it. Im not going to get into it with you because I do like Brady but lets be honest Brady didn't win the 1st 2 championships(D and FG kicker) and Brady also lost 2 super bowls and to make matters worse to the same team. IS brady Great yes. Is he better then Manning, yes by a lot in my opinion but please don't try and say Montana didn't do anything. 4-0 in superbowls plus throw in he had way tougher competition plus didn't play in a flag football league like is has come to. Brady wouldn't last in that era of football.

 

[Robotech]

Yeah, that's what most people who have had a lot of contact with him say. I'd like to see a bit less douchiness from him on a daily basis, though. As far as the passing stuff, we'll see. Hopefully it took. The guy could still be great if he can put it together, but I would have liked to have seen him taking this step last offseason if not sooner.

I hope he worked on a quicker release. Maybe that's what Gile was talking about when he mentioned that Kaep worked on his biomechanics. In my opinion, having a quicker release is key to Kaep getting better. All the greats seem to have that quick release where the ball seemingly gets out of there in an instant after they raise their arms to pass.

I also remember Dick Vermeil saying that Kaep is a flat trajectory passer, so it's harder for a guy like Kaep to be accurate. I wonder if Gile helped Kaep with putting a little more arc in his pass or if teaching this is to a pro QB is even possible.

 

[Pattersonca65]

I hope he worked on a quicker release. Maybe that's what Gile was talking about when he mentioned that Kaep worked on his biomechanics. In my opinion, having a quicker release is key to Kaep getting better. All the greats seem to have that quick release where the ball seemingly gets out of there in an instant after they raise their arms to pass.

I also remember Dick Vermeil saying that Kaep is a flat trajectory passer, so it's harder for a guy like Kaep to be accurate. I wonder if Gile helped Kaep with putting a little more arc in his pass or if teaching this is to a pro QB is even possible.

From what I've read they worked on touch passes especially on short throws. They did work on mechanics. Giles said he accepted the changes well.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Hopefully this all works out. But for the passing game to get better, it is going to take more than just Kaepernick to improve. The Oline is going to have new players. Those players are going to have to come together and pass block. Hopefully, Torrey Smith can open things up and Vernon can back to his old form

 

[Pattersonca65]

Kaepernick built chemistry with Patton, Ellington during workouts | CSN Bay Area

Another story from Arizona

 

[cmc_rebar]

kap is going to need all the help he can get....for a while here it was/is sounding like rats leaving a sinking ship

 

[Pattersonca65]

kap is going to need all the help he can get....for a while here it was/is sounding like rats leaving a sinking ship

?????

 

[cmc_rebar]

between the retirements, and the quitting, the morning sports radio shows were filled with doom and gloom...maybe I shouldn't listed to KGO...

 

[Pattersonca65]

between the retirements, and the quitting, the morning sports radio shows were filled with doom and gloom...maybe I shouldn't listed to KGO...

No doubt it is a tough time. But I think the " people jumping ship " is overblown. People who don't really follow the team can easily jump to that conclusion. The older players like Gore and Cowboy only had a couple of years left and in Gore's case, the 49ers weren't going to pay him what Indy was and Gore's role was probably going to diminish this year anyway. Iupati went for the money, can't blame him. The 49ers didn't want to pay a Iupati tackle money, esp one who is an inconsistent pass blocker and injury prone. No doubt Willis retiring hurts as does Borland. Hurts losing last years starting corners. Washington gave Culliver much more money that the 49ers wanted to pay. Not sure about Cox. Won't be as bad if Tramaine Brock comes back healthy. There was change coming in personnel if this year then next. Aging players and salary cap issues dictated change was coming. This is where Baalke's draft picks are going to be important

 

[Crimsoncrew]

I hope he worked on a quicker release. Maybe that's what Gile was talking about when he mentioned that Kaep worked on his biomechanics. In my opinion, having a quicker release is key to Kaep getting better. All the greats seem to have that quick release where the ball seemingly gets out of there in an instant after they raise their arms to pass.

I also remember Dick Vermeil saying that Kaep is a flat trajectory passer, so it's harder for a guy like Kaep to be accurate. I wonder if Gile helped Kaep with putting a little more arc in his pass or if teaching this is to a pro QB is even possible.

“We worked on that form to get it over the linebacker, touch it over,” Gile said. “We worked on his deep ball, getting it up and down and dropping it in the bucket."

Sounds like that was one of the areas of emphasis. Hopefully it took.

 

[Pattersonca65]

“We worked on that form to get it over the linebacker, touch it over,” Gile said. “We worked on his deep ball, getting it up and down and dropping it in the bucket."

Sounds like that was one of the areas of emphasis. Hopefully it took.

I sometimes wonder where was the old coaching staff in all this. Why has it taken until now? Was Kap that intransigent and now all of a sudden such a willing student?

 

[jayviabay]

Pattersonca, doesnt it make you think about how much validity was in the stuff York was saying, like the need to bring in a staff of teachers and coaches that can take players to the next level...

 

[Davis_Mike]

Hopefully Warner imparted some of his knowledge onto Kap. Like his ability pre-snap, to quickly read & react to defenses. That is the one glaring weakness I see in Kap every time I watch him play. The team is constantly taking timeouts or receiving delay of game penalties because Kap has a tough time deciphering what the defense is.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Just stop it. Im not going to get into it with you because I do like Brady but lets be honest Brady didn't win the 1st 2 championships(D and FG kicker) and Brady also lost 2 super bowls and to make matters worse to the same team. IS brady Great yes. Is he better then Manning, yes by a lot in my opinion but please don't try and say Montana didn't do anything. 4-0 in superbowls plus throw in he had way tougher competition plus didn't play in a flag football league like is has come to. Brady wouldn't last in that era of football.

you called him a "montana wanna be" and alluded to the fact he shouldnt share the same air as montana, let alone have his name mentioned in the same sentence.

you should tell yourself to "just stop"

it would have saved us both time.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Pattersonca, doesnt it make you think about how much validity was in the stuff York was saying, like the need to bring in a staff of teachers and coaches that can take players to the next level...

I don't pay much attention to York, especially anything that came from the press conference. What I really look were all the problems with the offense. Shouldn't have happened when our HC is an offensive minded coach. Even things like clock management were never fixed after several years. I think Harbaugh might have been too stubborn to make changes.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Hopefully Warner imparted some of his knowledge onto Kap. Like his ability pre-snap, to quickly read & react to defenses. That is the one glaring weakness I see in Kap every time I watch him play. The team is constantly taking timeouts or receiving delay of game penalties because Kap has a tough time deciphering what the defense is.

I think Kaepernick had some issues as you list above. I am hoping Warner and Coach Giles was able to help him with those things. The delay of game penalties were going on even with Alex Smith and was an issue since Harbaugh became HC. I think that has more to do with the play calling structure Harbaugh created. Too many people were involved and with the multiple play calls it was bound to be an issue.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

The funny thing about the inept way Jed handled the Harbaugh firing is that there were legitimate, on-field reasons to object to how Harbaugh was handling the team. And look, before I go into this, I have MAJOR reservations about getting rid of such a successful coach.

The reality is that Harbaugh was an offensive HC who was carried by his defense. This past season, with injuries to the D, we needed a borderline competent offense to be competitive. And we couldn't even produce that. Worst in the league in fourth-quarter scoring, by a wide margin. Second-worst in second-half scoring. With the possible exception of Kilgore, you can't really point to a single offensive player we developed under Harbaugh. Kap came on like gang-busters, but then regressed severely under tutelage of the "quarterback whisperer." WR and TE have been a disaster in terms of developing players. At some point, members of a staff have to be held accountable, and there was no indication Harbaugh was ever going to do that.

The above is all in addition to the delay of game stuff which we never came close to solving. It nearly cost us the GB game in the WC round last year, and certainly contributed to our loss against Seattle. There's no excuse for failing to address that. Not to mention that we had to be the worst team in the league at challenging. Please get Marathe back in the booth (who thought we'd be saying that a few years ago???). Attention to detail was not Harbaugh's strength, and in the NFL, that can be crucial. I don't love Tomsula as our HC, but hopefully he can improve upon some of these basic things.