Chris Ivory is a FA Should We Target Him

[jwil007]

he will come cheap he has avg over 5.1 a carry and he grades well in tackles broken...He is an Ohio guy and Hue would have thie dude ROLLIN! Replace Scott, Peerman or Leonard with him and draft 1 high..... Bet our run game improves INSTANTLY!

Its on cincyjungle....

 

[Tubbs1518]

What make you think he would hold up better than Bush?

 

[vancelot23]

Joe Goodberry of Cincy Jungle is a huge Ivory fan. I'd love to have him, but Hobson has already said we'll address RB in the draft, so don't get your hopes up.

 

[jwil007]

Tubbs,

He is younger...He hasnt played as much as Bush.. He has a higher ypc avg than Bush.. He he's had some injuries and he could improve ball control but we need to get 2 NEW backs do him and draft 1.... I think he would fit in the AFC North all day long.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Tubbs,

He is younger...He hasnt played as much as Bush.. He has a higher ypc avg than Bush.. He he's had some injuries and he could improve ball control but we need to get 2 NEW backs do him and draft 1.... I think he would fit in the AFC North all day long.

Bush is a better back. Give me Bush every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Ivory has more injury history than Bush.

 

[vancelot23]

We won't get either, so it's a moot point.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

he will come cheap he has avg over 5.1 a carry and he grades well in tackles broken...He is an Ohio guy and Hue would have thie dude ROLLIN! Replace Scott, Peerman or Leonard with him and draft 1 high..... Bet our run game improves INSTANTLY!

Its on cincyjungle....

If I had my druthers, I would indeed go after Ivory and draft a guy around maybe 3rd or 4th round to compete in camp. Let Scott and Leonard walk.

Ivory would not be that expensive, could be a nice change of pace from BJGE, and while he has some speed, he is not a push over like Scott is either. He has some strength, good stiff arm, powerful legs and thick upper body.

Probably what would wind up happening if we did that, Ivory would by half way through the season become our starting RB and never look back.

Tubbs is usually on an island all by himself. Don't worry about him.

Ivory would be awesome. Hopefully we do address the RB position in the draft, and we could target someone like Lattimore then if we can give him time to heal with a pickup like Ivory and a workhorse like BJGE on the roster as well.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I never said I was against Ivory, I just said I think Bush is a better back. I'd be perfectly fine with Ivory though.

I was just curious why he thought Bush would get killed in the AFC North but not Ivory, when Ivory has a lot of injury history.

 

[jwil007]

I never said I was against Ivory, I just said I think Bush is a better back. I'd be perfectly fine with Ivory though.

I was just curious why he thought Bush would get killed in the AFC North but not Ivory, when Ivory has a lot of injury history.

Ivory is more physical both have had injury history. Just think Ivory would be a better back due to his physical running style (120 yards against us in Cincy and he broke 1). He wasnt far behind Adrian Peterson in broken tackles ratio....Thats just the type of back we need....with speed.

 

[jwil007]

If I had my druthers, I would indeed go after Ivory and draft a guy around maybe 3rd or 4th round to compete in camp. Let Scott and Leonard walk.

Ivory would not be that expensive, could be a nice change of pace from BJGE, and while he has some speed, he is not a push over like Scott is either. He has some strength, good stiff arm, powerful legs and thick upper body.

Probably what would wind up happening if we did that, Ivory would by half way through the season become our starting RB and never look back.

Tubbs is usually on an island all by himself. Don't worry about him.

Ivory would be awesome. Hopefully we do address the RB position in the draft, and we could target someone like Lattimore then if we can give him time to heal with a pickup like Ivory and a workhorse like BJGE on the roster as well.

EXACTLY

 

[Tubbs1518]

The thing I don't like about Ivory is he isn't a receiving threat out of the backfield.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

The thing I don't like about Ivory is he isn't a receiving threat out of the backfield.

Every back is a receiving threat out of the backfield if you actually throw them the ball. He may not be a WR type of threat out of the backfield, like a Bush would be, but if you decide to involve the RB in the passing game, he can be a threat, but they have to actively want to involve the back in the passing game. He has enough speed to break away from LB's, so if you get him out in the flat or over the middle and he finds that zone or outruns his defender, a pass can be made.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Every back is a receiving threat out of the backfield if you actually throw them the ball. He may not be a WR type of threat out of the backfield, like a Bush would be, but if you decide to involve the RB in the passing game, he can be a threat, but they have to actively want to involve the back in the passing game. He has enough speed to break away from LB's, so if you get him out in the flat or over the middle and he finds that zone or outruns his defender, a pass can be made.

Ivory has 3 career receptions, on a team that throws the ball A LOT. Reggie Bush on the other hand had 213 receptions his first 3 years in the league.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Ivory has 3 career receptions, on a team that throws the ball A LOT. Reggie Bush on the other hand had 213 receptions his first 3 years in the league.

Got to be willing to throw the back t he ball. Can't imagine he has 3 receptions and 100 passes thrown to him. That is probably 3 catches in a very limited number of tries.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Got to be willing to throw the back t he ball. Can't imagine he has 3 receptions and 100 passes thrown to him. That is probably 3 catches in a very limited number of tries.

There is a reason he is the only RB on that team not catching the ball. If he was a threat to catch it out of the backfield, he would get the ball thrown to him. It's that simple. Teams use players in ways they can be successful. It's obvious NO didn't think he could be having the ball thrown to him. Could he improve? Sure, but Bush is already there. Which is why I say he is a better all around back.

 

[cincygrad]

Every back is a receiving threat out of the backfield if you actually throw them the ball. He may not be a WR type of threat out of the backfield, like a Bush would be, but if you decide to involve the RB in the passing game, he can be a threat, but they have to actively want to involve the back in the passing game. He has enough speed to break away from LB's, so if you get him out in the flat or over the middle and he finds that zone or outruns his defender, a pass can be made.

If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.....

As Tubbs said, if he's not getting opportunities in the passing game it's because the coaches don't feel like he can contribute in the passing game. Maybe the NO coaches have it all wrong. Maybe the kid has some sorts of talents that they've missed all these years. Given their track-record on offense with 'underrated talent,' I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I've given up hope that B. Scott will even make the team next season.
I'm not sure Leanord is as good as he used to be. There's room for him, but I think we'll focus on our own fa's before signing any others.

 

[augustisback003]

I like Chris Ivory, always have every since he went for over 100 yds and 2 tds against us back in 2010. If his injury checks out I say sign him.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.....

As Tubbs said, if he's not getting opportunities in the passing game it's because the coaches don't feel like he can contribute in the passing game. Maybe the NO coaches have it all wrong. Maybe the kid has some sorts of talents that they've missed all these years. Given their track-record on offense with 'underrated talent,' I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

She probably does, but when was the last time you checked under her hood to verify?

These are professional athletes, and especially one at a skill position. I highly doubt he is incapable of a short crossing pattern underneath, a little pass out to the flat, or a screen. I am not saying he needs to go up the seam for 40 yards, split coverage and outjump the S and LB to haul in a TD.

These are short simple patterns that anyone on offense is capable of doing. The question is, is he quick enough to beat his coverage by the LB or DE. I would have to think he is watching game film of him running the ball.

As I said, I am not claiming him to be as good as Bush at catching the ball, I am not even labeling him a receiving threat, but he can catch the ball on the short pattersn to help keep the defense from over pursuing certain formations.

 

[cincygrad]

We went through the same thing with the Firm..... Some of our fans swore he'd help in the passing game even though he wasn't very useful in that role in NE. At the end of you the year the dude had 22 catches -- And he even played more than planned given injuries.

I just don't understand why our fans hope guys will magically gain a new talent. Can Ivory catch? Sure. Every dude in the NFL can catch. Can he run? Sure. He wouldn't be on a roster if he couldn't. Is he effective in the passing game? Data says no.... I'll go with the data.