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Chris Ivory is a FA Should We Target Him

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Exactly Cincy..... If he could do it, why wasn't he? If he could do it, NO would have had him do it more than 3 times in 3 years.
 

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Exactly Cincy..... If he could do it, why wasn't he? If he could do it, NO would have had him do it more than 3 times in 3 years.

Because he doesn't get much playing time, maybe?

Ivory is so far down on the depth chart there he doesn't get many touches, and he has been hurt or dinged up a bit, so I am sure all of that plays a part.

It isn't like he was a pass catching animal in college either, but he would be fine.

We can all agree to disagree because this debate is not getting us anywhere since I am convinced he would be "adaquate" as a pass catcher in the backfield periodically.

If he was the starter, I wouldn't want to see the ball thrown to him anymore than 20-25 times a year anyways. Same with Reggie Bush. You do not want to keep dinking and dunking to your HB all game long. When you throw the ball, you want to get it down field and that means to Green, Gresham, Sanu, etc. RB should be like read #4 when attempting to throw a pass, unless it is designed specifically for him as a screen or something.

I believe in using the RB in the passing game some, but not to be a WR like Marshall Faulk used to be, or Reggie Bush is at times. They are supposed to be a RB who runs teh ball and helps block for the QB, and occassionally catches a pass out of the backfield.
 

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Because he doesn't get much playing time, maybe?

Ivory is so far down on the depth chart there he doesn't get many touches, and he has been hurt or dinged up a bit, so I am sure all of that plays a part.

It isn't like he was a pass catching animal in college either, but he would be fine.


We can all agree to disagree because this debate is not getting us anywhere since I am convinced he would be "adaquate" as a pass catcher in the backfield periodically.

If he was the starter, I wouldn't want to see the ball thrown to him anymore than 20-25 times a year anyways. Same with Reggie Bush. You do not want to keep dinking and dunking to your HB all game long. When you throw the ball, you want to get it down field and that means to Green, Gresham, Sanu, etc. RB should be like read #4 when attempting to throw a pass, unless it is designed specifically for him as a screen or something.

I believe in using the RB in the passing game some, but not to be a WR like Marshall Faulk used to be, or Reggie Bush is at times. They are supposed to be a RB who runs teh ball and helps block for the QB, and occassionally catches a pass out of the backfield.

What a ringing endorsement for the guy..... A bench-rider that is often dinged up and wasn't ver impressive in college.

I'm sold. Sign him up!
 

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We need a legitimate pass catching threat out of the backfield. Not one that can do it periodically.
 

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There is a reason he is the only RB on that team not catching the ball. If he was a threat to catch it out of the backfield, he would get the ball thrown to him. It's that simple. Teams use players in ways they can be successful. It's obvious NO didn't think he could be having the ball thrown to him. Could he improve? Sure, but Bush is already there. Which is why I say he is a better all around back.

Ingram wasnt catching passes either....Dont think its just Ivory not catching passes on that team....
 

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If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.....

As Tubbs said, if he's not getting opportunities in the passing game it's because the coaches don't feel like he can contribute in the passing game. Maybe the NO coaches have it all wrong. Maybe the kid has some sorts of talents that they've missed all these years. Given their track-record on offense with 'underrated talent,' I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe the team designated who would catch it and who would just run it....Doesnt mean he cant catch it...With so many backs I bet there were specific designations...

Ivory came into our house and warmed our house...SIGN HIM UP! LOL but we are all entitled...If we get him... It will be interesting to see who hates on him all year....LOL
 

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Because he doesn't get much playing time, maybe?

Ivory is so far down on the depth chart there he doesn't get many touches, and he has been hurt or dinged up a bit, so I am sure all of that plays a part.

It isn't like he was a pass catching animal in college either, but he would be fine.

We can all agree to disagree because this debate is not getting us anywhere since I am convinced he would be "adaquate" as a pass catcher in the backfield periodically.

If he was the starter, I wouldn't want to see the ball thrown to him anymore than 20-25 times a year anyways. Same with Reggie Bush. You do not want to keep dinking and dunking to your HB all game long. When you throw the ball, you want to get it down field and that means to Green, Gresham, Sanu, etc. RB should be like read #4 when attempting to throw a pass, unless it is designed specifically for him as a screen or something.

I believe in using the RB in the passing game some, but not to be a WR like Marshall Faulk used to be, or Reggie Bush is at times. They are supposed to be a RB who runs the ball and helps block for the QB, and occassionally catches a pass out of the backfield.


I will bet 100 to all doubters if dude comes here he will catch the ball more and make shit happen...DAMN I hope we sign this kid... Just because he was pidgeon holed in NOLA does not mean he cant do it in Cincy....
 

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I will bet 100 to all doubters if dude comes here he will catch the ball more and make shit happen...DAMN I hope we sign this kid... Just because he was pidgeon holed in NOLA does not mean he cant do it in Cincy....

I'm fairly sure nobody is taking that bet.... It's not hard to have more than 3 catches.
 

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And yes.... My preference is to draft a running back.
 

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one thing about Marvin Jones though.

2012 was his first year. he's going to get better people, don't get tired of him yet.

of course, i can't say how much better, that's the problem.
 

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What a ringing endorsement for the guy..... A bench-rider that is often dinged up and wasn't ver impressive in college.

I'm sold. Sign him up!

He is low on NO depth chart, but they are loaded there. If given a chance to start, he could be a legit starter in this league.

He had been dinged up, and it is a good possibility he could be dinged up here, which is why he would not cost an arm and a leg. We could get him on a good deal, which would attract Mike Brown, give him a chance to earn that contract.

I am just not a big fan of BJGE, but he is a serviceable back, as a backup I think.

Ink Ivory, keep BJGE, and draft Marcus Lattimore, and give him time to heal. Because of his injury he is going to slide to the 2/3 rounds. He was the #1 back in the country before the injury. Ivory, BJGE, Peerman will give Lattimore all the time he needs to heal. Hope he recovers 100% like Peterson did, and we are golden.

We have very different views of pass catching RB's I think. You may think they need to go out and down the field for WR routes almost, where as I see a RB as last second ditch effort to gain some yards in the passing game when all else is covered, or as a screen pass. I don't think a RB should be used for any more than that.

Bush would be a good pass catching RB, but we still would not throw him the ball very much, so the biggest draw for Bush is not a real priority in this offense. We just do not design plays for the RB in the passing game much, and we focus on getting the ball to the WR's in open space and letting them get extra yardage.

After looking back on things, Bush would be an expensive alternative in FA, and we wouldn't even use half his skills we are paying for.
 

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I'm against Bush and any of the other FA running backs.... I don't think any of them are major upgrades over the Firm.

I'd like to draft a player.
 

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Also, are you willing to give up a draft pick for Ivory? Because he isn't an UFA. The Saints will put some kind of tender on him, you can guarantee that.
 
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