Chris Baker hit

[gkekoa]

Philadelphia Eagles OL Jason Peters expects fine for hit on Washington Redskins DE Chris Baker but would 'do the same thing' again - ESPN

Haven't seen anybody post something like this. The NFL said the hit was legal.

My question becomes...why the hell was he ejected?

 

[Sharkinva]

Philadelphia Eagles OL Jason Peters expects fine for hit on Washington Redskins DE Chris Baker but would 'do the same thing' again - ESPN

Haven't seen anybody post something like this. The NFL said the hit was legal.

My question becomes...why the hell was he ejected?

Because refs are deciding games at an alarming rate. If they eject Peters and Baker stays, you dont think that affects the mentality our team plays with going forward?? Peters had to be ejected, his going after Baker basically started an all out brawl. Baker had to go as well.

Oh and he layed out a QB... thats a no no in and of itself.

Frankly Im shocked they didnt suspend him for this upcoming game though.

 

[Sharkinva]

Side note, you can bet your ass Eli will have his head on a swivel if he throws a pick this week.

 

[Breed]

"Baker didn't do anything wrong with that hit," Vincent said. "When you look at the rule, he didn't do anything illegal. People can say it's a cheap shot and you can talk about whether it might fall under unsportsmanlike conduct. But when you know the rule and you look at the play, he didn't hit him in the head. He didn't hit him in the neck. We looked at it. I looked at it very closely. He's not going to be fined for that."

Interesting. It was legal. Lotta peeps saying it was illegal and cheap. There's a thread about the hit in the gen forum and some poster even broke out a rule from the NFL rulebook to support his position that the hit was illegal.

Kinda sucks that Baker was tossed for a legal hit, not that it would've made a difference in the outcome if he hadn't of been. Still, it seems that in every game now the refs in some way make a huge blunder that impacts the game.

 

[Breed]

Baker had to go as well.

Not according to NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent.

 

[redskin4209]

Philadelphia Eagles OL Jason Peters expects fine for hit on Washington Redskins DE Chris Baker but would 'do the same thing' again - ESPN

Haven't seen anybody post something like this. The NFL said the hit was legal.

My question becomes...why the hell was he ejected?

Interesting, Baker hit was legal to me and should have been ejected. Foles should stay away from the defender with the ball. I might could see Baker hit being dirty if foles was on the other side of the field. Baker could have hit him harder if he wanted to. Things will be very interesting when Philly comes to DC.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

There's a grey area in regards to whether or not Foles is a defenseless player. In this situation. As he was moving towards the ball, and it was a bang bang play, there is more than enough room for ambiguity in this case.


That said, I think there is no way Baker didn't know it was Foles. He took an opportunity to take a clean hit, but I can see why some (Eagles fans) might see it as cheap. Reality is Foles was too close to where the ball was thought to be intercepted...and the whistle had NOT blown.

Same sort of thing happened with Peyton, but he stood still and was obviously aware of the rule that protects him, as long as he is not making any sort of move toward the ball.

If it happened to our QB, we'd most likely feel the same way.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Here's a good explanation from the General NFL board

The hit was legal officially

Meanwhile, NFL executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent told The Washington Post that Baker won't be suspended or fined for his hit.

"Baker didn't do anything wrong with that hit," Vincent said. "When you look at the rule, he didn't do anything illegal. People can say it's a cheap shot and you can talk about whether it might fall under unsportsmanlike conduct. But when you know the rule and you look at the play, he didn't hit him in the head. He didn't hit him in the neck. We looked at it. I looked at it very closely. He's not going to be fined for that."

Philadelphia Eagles OL Jason Peters expects fine for hit on Washington Redskins DE Chris Baker but would 'do the same thing' again - ESPN

 

[martinez]

baker could have hit him harder. foles shouldn't have been going towards the ball if he didn't want to get hit. i hate how baker is the victim and peters just gets praised for protecting his qb when peters was throwing punches and started a big brawl.

 

[Sportster 72]

Interesting. It was legal. Lotta peeps saying it was illegal and cheap. There's a thread about the hit in the gen forum and some poster even broke out a rule from the NFL rulebook to support his position that the hit was illegal.

Kinda sucks that Baker was tossed for a legal hit, not that it would've made a difference in the outcome if he hadn't of been. Still, it seems that in every game now the refs in some way make a huge blunder that impacts the game.

I was one of the one of the peeps that said it was illegal and stand corrected. I remember Sapp doing that to Clifton (I think) for Green Bay. Although it was lineman against lineman I remember he got hurt and I thought they instituted a rule to prevent those blind side de-cleaters but apparently not. The refs didn't throw a flag until after the hit and Vincent said that they would have been within rules to hit him with Unsportsmanlike but the hit was legal. My bad.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

The refs havd controled the nfl for years how else to you explain the'pats and giants superbowl era. Mora and craft runs the'nfl tells goodell what to do

 

[FLSkinsfan]

The reason the Sap hit was so bad was that the runner was already by the lineman and he went after him knowing he had no chance to get into the play. Clifton was not even trying to get into the play at the time he was de-cleated. Foles was going to the ball carrier and the play was still in process when Baker hit him.

 

[Stymietee]

Where the rule becomes inapplicable to this situation is the rule applies to an offensive player. Once the QB throws a pick his team become the defensive side. It was a very legal block.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Can't really tell if this was mentioned based on the responses, but I believe that Baker was ejected for his part in the brawl - not for the hit. The Redskins received a 15 yd penalty because of the hit. Not stating that the ejection was correct - just explaining the reason.

That being said I completely disagree that this was a cheap shot. Foles should not be just wandering around like that when he was literally a few feet away from the play. Almost like wandering around on the freeway then complaining when you get hit by a car. However - I would guess that if this happened to Cousins I would probably react like them (the nature of being a fan).

Also - as Shark mentioned in another thread - why wasn't the Eagles DB tossed when he lunged for Jackson earlier in the game when Jackson was on the ground? To me that appeared to be a deliberate attempt to injure a player. That should never be tolerated in the NFL.

 

[Breed]

I was one of the one of the peeps that said it was illegal and stand corrected. I remember Sapp doing that to Clifton (I think) for Green Bay. Although it was lineman against lineman I remember he got hurt and I thought they instituted a rule to prevent those blind side de-cleaters but apparently not. The refs didn't throw a flag until after the hit and Vincent said that they would have been within rules to hit him with Unsportsmanlike but the hit was legal. My bad.

 

[Tdog21Skins]

Can't really tell if this was mentioned based on the responses, but I believe that Baker was ejected for his part in the brawl - not for the hit. The Redskins received a 15 yd penalty because of the hit. Not stating that the ejection was correct - just explaining the reason.

That being said I completely disagree that this was a cheap shot. Foles should not be just wandering around like that when he was literally a few feet away from the play. Almost like wandering around on the freeway then complaining when you get hit by a car. However - I would guess that if this happened to Cousins I would probably react like them (the nature of being a fan).

Also - as Shark mentioned in another thread - why wasn't the Eagles DB tossed when he lunged for Jackson earlier in the game when Jackson was on the ground? To me that appeared to be a deliberate attempt to injure a player. That should never be tolerated in the NFL.

Or how come Cox wasn't flagged for a late hit on Cousins? I know he heard the whistle blow at that point the play was already blown dead.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Or how come Cox wasn't flagged for a late hit on Cousins? I know he heard the whistle blow at that point the play was already blown dead.

Yep. You have to wonder if the refs would do the same if the QB were Brady or Manning. That is one thing that is aggravating about the NFL refs - they are not consistent.

 

[skinz2winz]

There were several plays against the Redskins where either Jackson (hit in head area when down) and Cousins (hit in head area well after delivering pass) and NO call. Baker was only defending himself after Peter's threw a punch and kept coming after him. There should have been NO flag on Baker at all on that play nor should he have been ejected for Peter's aggressiveness.


Having said that, go back and look at the players on the sideline during the brawl. You will see multiple punches thrown and more Eagles who should have been ejected.

 

[gkekoa]

I was one of the one of the peeps that said it was illegal and stand corrected. I remember Sapp doing that to Clifton (I think) for Green Bay. Although it was lineman against lineman I remember he got hurt and I thought they instituted a rule to prevent those blind side de-cleaters but apparently not. The refs didn't throw a flag until after the hit and Vincent said that they would have been within rules to hit him with Unsportsmanlike but the hit was legal. My bad.

I respect this. It is good to admit when you are wrong because so few do.

I remember the Clifton hit too. Definitely not the same thing.

I also don't understand the blindside thing. How is hitting somebody in the chest, a blind side hit?

 

[gkekoa]

Can't really tell if this was mentioned based on the responses, but I believe that Baker was ejected for his part in the brawl - not for the hit. The Redskins received a 15 yd penalty because of the hit. Not stating that the ejection was correct - just explaining the reason.

That being said I completely disagree that this was a cheap shot. Foles should not be just wandering around like that when he was literally a few feet away from the play. Almost like wandering around on the freeway then complaining when you get hit by a car. However - I would guess that if this happened to Cousins I would probably react like them (the nature of being a fan).

Also - as Shark mentioned in another thread - why wasn't the Eagles DB tossed when he lunged for Jackson earlier in the game when Jackson was on the ground? To me that appeared to be a deliberate attempt to injure a player. That should never be tolerated in the NFL.

That is the claim. They claim he was ejected for his part in the brawl. His part in the brawl though was THE LEGAL HIT. It's total bullshit.