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The NFL will stage a 2018 regular-season game in China with the Los Angeles Rams serving as the "home" team, according to the Los Angeles Times.

No opponent has yet been named. No location either, although it'll be a surprise if it's anywhere other than 91,000-seat Beijing National Stadium, the centerpiece of the 2008 Summer Olympics. The NFL likes to do things big.

Commissioner Roger Goodell wouldn't confirm specifics on Wednesday, saying only that the league is "interested" in going to China and a number of teams have said they want to participate.

"The size and influence of China in the global marketplace can't be ignored," Goodell said wistfully.

This would be bold, daring and logistically challenging in myriad ways. It's fraught with failure. It's also the future the NFL is barreling headlong into. In other words, no matter how American the game of football is, get used to it.

It may be fitting that the Rams will be the home team. As temporary residents of the LA Coliseum, they are freed up while their new palatial stadium is being constructed in Inglewood. Their move from St. Louis ended, or at least curbed, one of the NFL's most lucrative bargaining chips, gaining sweetheart concessions from existing cities when their franchise threatened relocation to L.A.

While a second team sharing the stadium with the Rams is still an option, is L.A. really ready for two franchises? As such, the most powerful possible relocation target is London, where the league has set up shop since 2007 via the International Series.

London is no longer a threat any mayor in America should take seriously. That's what China signifies. So too does NFL games being announced in Mexico (2016 featuring the Houston Texans and Oakland Raiders) and speculated for Germany (2017).

London getting a full-time franchise is a back-burner item.

The league's goal, as reported by Yahoo Sports Charles Robinson this week from the owners' meetings, is to play games around the globe in an effort to build up interest which can be monetized via international digital media rights. That's a far greater revenue stream than limiting the league to just one non-U.S. franchise.

It's not that London isn't appealing. Its population is nearly nine million, tailing only New York and L.A. There are 40 million more English outside of London and tens of millions more potential fans in Paris, Belgium, Wales and the Netherlands, all just a couple-hour train ride away.

Repeatedly staging games in London has helped produce a dedicated group of football fanatics. Attendance is strong. Television ratings are good. The city has plenty of money, individual and corporate.

It could work.

Except it couldn't, at least not full-time. The logistics are too great, the burden on all teams too much. Travel, both week of the game and week afterward, shipping equipment, dealing with roster turnover and so on would be an immense challenge in the regular season.

It would become untenable once the team eventually made the playoffs. How do you play Sunday in say San Francisco and then London on Saturday with no advanced notice?

The cost benefits aren't there. Goodell might covet getting into such a big market, but the NFL is generally cautious and thorough with these things. It took two decades to go back to Los Angles, after all.

China is where this is headed, not to mention Berlin and Sao Paulo and who knows where else.

Having one franchise play eight games in London each season boxes the league into a corner. So why not expand the International Series to eight games a year, play all over the place, and try to duplicate the success of London?

The league is under contract to stage three to four games a year in London going forward, both in Wembley Stadium and a new facility built by the soccer club Tottenham. The new place will be more football friendly – with NFL-sized locker rooms, etc.

Staging the remaining four to five games around mainland Europe (Berlin, Paris, Madrid), Mexico City, Brazil, China and Japan spreads things out. There could be an annual commitment. It could rotate.

The future is mobile and global, not market-by-market via living room televisions. Last season, Yahoo.com broadcast a game from London exclusively over the Internet. The NFL's goal was to test the global market place. Games can now be sent anywhere and everywhere without dealing with local broadcasts rights and getting on the best channels.

For example, it's questionable that the NFL could ever garner a big enough slice of the Beijing market to put a franchise there. It would take decades. And even in Beijing, a wealth center by Chinese standards, the median annual income is less than $12,000 U.S., according to a 2015 report by Beijing Today.

By making a big push there, though, could the NFL get just one-tenth of 1 percent of China's 1.4 billion people to become fans enough to watch at least some games? That would represent a spectacular success, adding 1.4 million viewers, a media market larger than Jacksonville, Buffalo, New Orleans, Charlotte, Indianapolis or Nashville.

"We have fans and potential fans there," Goodell said.

There's just too much potential money to not give this a try and too much to put all the league's international eggs in London's basket.

The plan could be fairly simple. With eight games a year, each team plays out of country every other year and loses one home game every four.

Some trips are more stressful on teams than others. It takes about six and a half hours to fly from the Northeast to London. It's about 14 to Beijing. Working that around byes, or even opening a season in Asia, might be an option. Clearly the NFL is willing to try.

Jacksonville, for one, is eager to play internationally every year, with an agreement to stage a game in London each year through 2020 (with a team option that could extend to 2025). The Rams will play in London each of the next two seasons, then reportedly go to China.

Some franchises may want to follow that lead and be more active with this. Others may prefer the opposite. Goodell said more franchises are interested in China "than we can handle and that's a good thing."

As such, the International Series will be more than the London Series. It's been a success thus far, not in paving the way for a franchise in England as initially suspected, but in showing that sustained efforts can create interest abroad.

As technology has changed viewing possibilities, the league is shifting with it. There are bigger and bigger markets to chase.

So China, like it or not, is coming. And it isn't going way.
 

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I could definitely see the Seahawks playing this game in China as no EAST coast team is going to make the trip, just as Seattle will must likely never go to London. Maybe I'm in the minority here but I HATE these games out of country. We the people pay for these Stadiums and (as the NFL) likes to claim it creates jobs, money for the local team, therefore pay for our stadiums. :L
 

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While were at it why don't we base the NFL in China and get cheaper labor.... #@$^@#^! ...
 

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I get that the NFL is trying to expand their brand and their fanbase, but for the sake of the players, the only international sites they should play games in are Toronto, Vancouver and maybe Mexico City, and even Mexico City is asking a lot travel-wise. I'm not a big fan of regular season games being played in Europe or Asia. It sucks for the fans of the team that loses a true home game to be the "home" team in a place that is several thousand miles away from their real home, even if the teams they tend to choose for that "honor" are teams that don't necessarily draw a lot of people to their home games to begin with. Obviously that's not always the case, but if more of the better drawing teams were chosen to give up a home game every year to go play far away from home, I think more fans and teams would raise a stink about it and they might reconsider having games overseas altogether.
 

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Utter BS, goodell needs to go eff himself. The nfl is part of the globalist hivemind that inherently seeks to screw americans while demanding our allegiance.
 

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I don't care as long as:

A. The Seahawks don't lose a home game
B. These teams get a bye week following the international game

Now, there is not a chance in hell that one of the better teams in the league, with a great home field and a mile long waiting list plays a home game anywhere but their own home.
 

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Utter BS, goodell needs to go eff himself. The nfl is part of the globalist hivemind that inherently seeks to screw americans while demanding our allegiance.

The owners are the ones behind this, thats why you see teams sign multiyear deals to be a part of it. It allows them to expand their brands internationally. And for teams like the Jags and the Rams, it provides a rare nationally televised game and an even rarer sellout for a "home game".
 

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The owners are the ones behind this, thats why you see teams sign multiyear deals to be a part of it. It allows them to expand their brands internationally. And for teams like the Jags and the Rams, it provides a rare nationally televised game and an even rarer sellout for a "home game".

Of course. The big joke about grousing about hive minds and the like, is that finding expanding markets to make additional profit from is as American as apple pie and cheerleaders.

Buncha Murica haters.
 

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I don't care as long as:

A. The Seahawks don't lose a home game
B. These teams get a bye week following the international game

Now, there is not a chance in hell that one of the better teams in the league, with a great home field and a mile long waiting list plays a home game anywhere but their own home.

Would be great if we played the Rams, with the Rams being the home team... Would mean we'd get them at home and on a neutral field... Would suck for Ram fans though cuz they'd be losing a home game...
 

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Would be great if we played the Rams, with the Rams being the home team... Would mean we'd get them at home and on a neutral field... Would suck for Ram fans though cuz they'd be losing a home game...

I'm beginning to wonder if one of the concessions the Rams had to make in order to get the move back to L.A. approved was being the designated "home" team in one of these international games. Otherwise it's a bit weird that the league would allow a team to move to a new city and then almost immediately take a home game in that new city away in favor of an international game.
 

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I'm beginning to wonder if one of the concessions the Rams had to make in order to get the move back to L.A. approved was being the designated "home" team in one of these international games. Otherwise it's a bit weird that the league would allow a team to move to a new city and then almost immediately take a home game in that new city away in favor of an international game.

That's a good possibility. If I was a Rams fan, i'd be pissed having paid for 8 games and only seeing 7 in person after waiting x amount of years to get a team back.
 

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While were at it why don't we base the NFL in China and get cheaper labor.... #@$^@#^! ...


Handoff to Wing Wong going off tackle right, lead by fullback Chang Suk, Nose tackle Chow Fun and DE Xi Xiongg collapse on the hole, and Wong is finished off by Linebacker Mao Zedong, Jr.
 

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Handoff to Wing Wong going off tackle right, lead by fullback Chang Suk, Nose tackle Chow Fun and DE Xi Xiongg collapse on the hole, and Wong is finished off by Linebacker Mao Zedong, Jr.

DE XI Xiongg sure has put on some weight, he's now hovering around 230.
 

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The time difference wont make it work. Its one thing to play a game in London its another to play it in China. For example a Sunday afternoon game in Shanghai at 1pm will be at Saturday 10pm (PST) on the west coast. I'm not sure how the NFL is gonna deal with this.
 

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The time difference wont make it work. Its one thing to play a game in London its another to play it in China. For example a Sunday afternoon game in Shanghai at 1pm will be at Saturday 10pm (PST) on the west coast. I'm not sure how the NFL is gonna deal with this.

A game on Saturday at 10 pm? Sounds like a great bar night.
 

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Stupid bullshit. The U.S. is never going to get into cricket. That doesn't mean that cricket isn't a sport played by great athletes. It means that cricket just isn't our thing. And if some league wanted to do the cricket thing in the U.S. it would be some exhibition that didn't mean anything.

Goodell has lost it. The NFL Europe was a complete failure but he keeps plugging this overseas crap because he wants to sell jerseys and crap overseas. It's never going to happen. What's wrong with the NFL being a thing of the USA? What's his big problem with that? He doesn't think the teams are making enough money? What's wrong with the US having something that other people just don't understand?
 

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Things change.

Just read today that with all 7 Canadian teams not making the playoffs, the March Madness games outdrew Hockey Night in Canada.

That that would EVER happen would have been thought ludicrous.

The reason that NFL Europe was a failure is that people aren't going to pay top dollar to watch 2nd or 3rd tier talent.

REAL NFL games? People will watch those.

And it's not Goodell, it's the owners.
 

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Stupid bullshit. The U.S. is never going to get into cricket. That doesn't mean that cricket isn't a sport played by great athletes. It means that cricket just isn't our thing. And if some league wanted to do the cricket thing in the U.S. it would be some exhibition that didn't mean anything.

Goodell has lost it. The NFL Europe was a complete failure but he keeps plugging this overseas crap because he wants to sell jerseys and crap overseas. It's never going to happen. What's wrong with the NFL being a thing of the USA? What's his big problem with that? He doesn't think the teams are making enough money? What's wrong with the US having something that other people just don't understand?

Dont be fooled, there is a growing world wide demand. If there wasnt, nfl teams would not sign multi-year deals to play overseas.

I don't understand the mentality that we're losing something by sharing the league with other countries. The only people who should be pissed imo are the very few people who are season ticket holders of the teams hosting overseas. But those teams wouldn't be playing home games there if they werent struggling heavily to sell tickets at home. Anyone else upset by it is just being possessive of something they don't possess.
 
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