Chiefs trying to break world record crowd noise tomorrow what are the odds?

[Fountain City Blues]

Sigh...Ok there is a over hang that helps with the noise. Domes actually cover the whole stadium, yet posters act like this partial over hang that keeps part of the crowd from getting wet from rain and snow is some how a unique engineering feat. Gets a little old and really who cares? It's not Seahawks fans that bring up how loud the Clink is, it's those who feel they got to dis credit the noise that bring it up.

The science of sound: How Seattle got so loud | 2013-09-30 | ISHN

In week 2 of the NFL season, fans at CenturyLink Field in Seattle broke the Guinness World Record for the highest peak decibel level — 136.6 decibels — ever recorded at a stadium.
Since Seattle’s stadium opened in 2002, its raucous fan base, dubbed the 12th Man, has given opponents fits. Players have trouble hearing the quarterback’s instructions, which can cause delay-of-game penalties and generally throw an offense out of sync. The noise clearly bugged the San Francisco 49ers. Seattle walloped the defending NFC champs on Sunday night, 29-3.
While the vocal cords of Seahawks fans surely deserve credit for piercing ears, so do the designers of CenturyLink Field. Even though it’s a mostly open-air stadium, the building traps noise. While CenturyLink Field isn’t domed, two huge canopies — one on the east side of the stadium, the other on the west side — cover 70% of the seats. This design has two benefits. One, it protects fans from Seattle’s famous rain. And two, it pumps up the volume.
Overhangs and curving canopies count

“The main thing that creates noise is any type of overhanging structure that reflects sounds back into the stadium,” says Andrew Barnard, a research associate at Penn State‘s Applied Research Laboratory, specializing in structural acoustics. What’s more, Seattle’s stadium has two additional overhangs, functioning as the bottom of the upper seating bowl, that cover the lower seating bowls. “Sound also reflects off the bottom of the upper deck, and back onto the field,” says Barnard.
The curves on these canopies are also key. “They are large parabolas,” says Bill Stewart, managing partner at SSA Acoustics, which is based in Seattle. Stewart was responsible for measuring the record-setting noise on Sunday night. “The curvature and angles of the canopies act to focus the sound energy onto the playing field, producing higher noise levels.”
Fans scream even louder

These physics also change behavior. “Fans get caught up in it,” says Stewart. “They experience an intense increase in the sound levels that they would not normally experience in an outdoor environment, and are energized by it.” As a result, they scream even louder.
Over a decade ago, Seahawks owner Paul Allen told Jon Niemuth, the architect of CenturyLink Field, to model his team’s new home after Husky Stadium, home of the University of Washington. Allen wanted that crazed, college feel. So at CenturyLink field, the seats are relatively close to the field. In the north end zone, the design team created rows of aluminum bleachers. “When fans stomp on them,” Niemuth says, “things get really loud.”
A "happy accident"

Niemuth, however, did not anticipate the sound effects of the curved canopies. He calls this result a “happy accident.”
The NFL is known as a copycat league; if one tactic works, other teams start using it. But teams haven’t rushed to mimic Seattle’s stadium model. “Not every client starts at a place where they want world-record sound,” says Niemuth, whose firm — AECOM Ellerbe Becket — helped design Ford Field in Detroit, and renovate Soldier Field and Lambeau Field. Just look at some of the newer football stadiums, like Ford Field, Lucas Oil Field in Indianapolis, AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, and MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. They’re massive. But the seats aren’t on top of the players. They don’t scream like Seattle.


I am not making it up when I say the stadium has a great impact on how loud the stadium is ( even psychological reasons come into play in stadiums that are as loud as Seattle as suggested in " Fans Scream Even Louder")

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Why waste time pursuing such a trivial record.

Is some headache remedy manufacturer sponsoring this idiocy?

Because it is the Raiders, and some Chiefs fans will tell you until they are red in the face that Arrowhead is louder than Seattle... so they got Guiness to show up.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

The science of sound: How Seattle got so loud | 2013-09-30 | ISHN

In week 2 of the NFL season, fans at CenturyLink Field in Seattle broke the Guinness World Record for the highest peak decibel level — 136.6 decibels — ever recorded at a stadium.
Since Seattle’s stadium opened in 2002, its raucous fan base, dubbed the 12th Man, has given opponents fits. Players have trouble hearing the quarterback’s instructions, which can cause delay-of-game penalties and generally throw an offense out of sync. The noise clearly bugged the San Francisco 49ers. Seattle walloped the defending NFC champs on Sunday night, 29-3.
While the vocal cords of Seahawks fans surely deserve credit for piercing ears, so do the designers of CenturyLink Field. Even though it’s a mostly open-air stadium, the building traps noise. While CenturyLink Field isn’t domed, two huge canopies — one on the east side of the stadium, the other on the west side — cover 70% of the seats. This design has two benefits. One, it protects fans from Seattle’s famous rain. And two, it pumps up the volume.
Overhangs and curving canopies count

“The main thing that creates noise is any type of overhanging structure that reflects sounds back into the stadium,” says Andrew Barnard, a research associate at Penn State‘s Applied Research Laboratory, specializing in structural acoustics. What’s more, Seattle’s stadium has two additional overhangs, functioning as the bottom of the upper seating bowl, that cover the lower seating bowls. “Sound also reflects off the bottom of the upper deck, and back onto the field,” says Barnard.
The curves on these canopies are also key. “They are large parabolas,” says Bill Stewart, managing partner at SSA Acoustics, which is based in Seattle. Stewart was responsible for measuring the record-setting noise on Sunday night. “The curvature and angles of the canopies act to focus the sound energy onto the playing field, producing higher noise levels.”
Fans scream even louder

These physics also change behavior. “Fans get caught up in it,” says Stewart. “They experience an intense increase in the sound levels that they would not normally experience in an outdoor environment, and are energized by it.” As a result, they scream even louder.
Over a decade ago, Seahawks owner Paul Allen told Jon Niemuth, the architect of CenturyLink Field, to model his team’s new home after Husky Stadium, home of the University of Washington. Allen wanted that crazed, college feel. So at CenturyLink field, the seats are relatively close to the field. In the north end zone, the design team created rows of aluminum bleachers. “When fans stomp on them,” Niemuth says, “things get really loud.”
A "happy accident"

Niemuth, however, did not anticipate the sound effects of the curved canopies. He calls this result a “happy accident.”
The NFL is known as a copycat league; if one tactic works, other teams start using it. But teams haven’t rushed to mimic Seattle’s stadium model. “Not every client starts at a place where they want world-record sound,” says Niemuth, whose firm — AECOM Ellerbe Becket — helped design Ford Field in Detroit, and renovate Soldier Field and Lambeau Field. Just look at some of the newer football stadiums, like Ford Field, Lucas Oil Field in Indianapolis, AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, and MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. They’re massive. But the seats aren’t on top of the players. They don’t scream like Seattle.


I am not making it up when I say the stadium has a great impact on how loud the stadium is ( even psychological reasons come into play in stadiums that are as loud as Seattle as suggested in " Fans Scream Even Louder")

You could say the same for domes. I mean really , are the curved canopies in the Clink different then the curved domes? Other then they do not cover the whole stadium? Also the part about covering 70% of the stands is a bunch of BS.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

You could say the same for domes. I mean really , are the curved canopies in the Clink different then the curved domes? Other then they do not cover the whole stadium? Also the part about covering 70% of the stands is a bunch of BS.

I found that interesting myself, I am trying to find something to back that up, the only two reasons I didn't edit it out is

1) I am not that good spatially ( I'll tell you a guy is 6'3 when he is 5'9 because he is at a distance)
2) Ethically, I don't want to edit articles themselves.

Edit: It seems to me that Seattle is closer to a dome ( if the 70% figure is correct) than many people are willing to admit, but I am not a structural engineer so I can't really prove that...

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Does this look like 70% of the stands covered to you?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Does this look like 70% of the stands covered to you?

Well... I can't see the image on this computer... so I couldn't really say.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

http://prod.static.seahawks.clubs.nfl.com/assets/2013/images/team/centurylink-field-650.jpg

It certainly does appear to cover a great deal of the seating area, but it leaves the field open to inclement weather. But again, I am not too terribly credible when it comes to these kind of judgment calls.


But in all seriousness, Seattle has a great fanbase, they obviously are in to the games and get loud, there isn't any other way to be as loud as they are, it just doesn't happen if it isn't true. Sure the stadium helps (some will say more than others...) but lame fans don't EARN the record for being the loudest stadium without being... um, loud.

Edit: Now... I just hope Arrowhead gets loud like it was in the 90's, I have no idea why we are using a number from 2005 as the record high in DB's for Arrowhead.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Thank You! I think. Not sure about the the lame fans part, I think you meant lame fans would not be as loud.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Thank You! I think. Not sure about the the lame fans part, I think you meant lame fans would not be as loud.

Correct, fans aren't always loud necessarily, but lame fans that are just there to be seen are almost never loud ( unless it is the kind of guy who gets kicked out for pissing everyone off for 3 sections around him)

Edit: Clearly Seattle fans that go to the games are not lame in any sense of the word.

 

[fastforward]

I'm hoping for a quiet 4th quarter.

 

[RegentDenali]

Turn the volume up just a little louder than they did in Sea.....

 

[cdumler7]

Not sure as a fan that I would be too proud of this moment. Sherman your team just won the game isn't that enough? I love the way Sherman plays the game just wish he allowed his play on the field to be talk enough. Deciding to rub in a win like this to me is just a notch above trying to injure another player.

 

[RegentDenali]

Not sure as a fan that I would be too proud of this moment. Sherman your team just won the game isn't that enough? I love the way Sherman plays the game just wish he allowed his play on the field to be talk enough. Deciding to rub in a win like this to me is just a notch above trying to injure another player.

If you knew anything about the real story behind that picture, you'd know that Tom Brady started trash talking about beating the Seahawks the game week via twitter and press conferences, and instructed Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas to "see me after the game when the patriots win".

Richard simply did the polite thing by following through on Mr. Bundchen's request.

 

[KwitYerWhinin]

Meh, this thread is about Arrowhead, not the field in Coffeeville.

lol @ coffeeville......Starbucks is one of the best things that ever happened to the world

 

[KwitYerWhinin]

If you knew anything about the real story behind that picture, you'd know that Tom Brady started trash talking about beating the Seahawks the game week via twitter and press conferences, and instructed Richard Sherman and Earl Thomas to "see me after the game when the patriots win".

Richard simply did the polite thing by following through on Mr. Bundchen's request.

c'mon...we all know he would have done it without the suggestion... sherman is a shit talker to the bone.

 

[Kid Vicarious]

I see a trend happening. The Guinness officials are going to be pretty busy for the next few years. at least they get to watch some free NFL games.

 

[Uhsplit]

Stadium engineering does come in to play here. I doubt they have a chance.

Precisely. A domed stadium should have the best advantage.

 

[Uhsplit]

Meh, this thread is about Arrowhead, not the field in Coffeeville.

Meh, seeing as how Coffeeville holds the record that KC is trying to break expect to see Seattle mentioned in the media whether they break it or not.

 

[Logicallylethal]

Much respect to KC and their fans. Arrowhead has always been one of the tougher places to play in the NFL even when the Chiefs weren't good. Now that the Chiefs are back in playoff contention, I imagine that place is going to be one of the loudest in the NFL.

Good luck on the record today. At this rate, we are going to see the Saints make an attempt at this record as well. Personally, I feel like this is a cool thing for the NFL and their fans. Not sure why people are using this to stir the pot and create negativity between fan bases. All this does is it's going to encourage fan bases to be louder and louder. I know if KC breaks this record this week...come week 13 MNF against the Saints...the Clink will be even louder than it was against San Fran.

This is a great thing for the fans. Enjoy for it what it is

 

[RoboticDreams]

lol @ coffeeville......Starbucks is one of the best things that ever happened to the world

Agreed. As you can see from above and below, Coffeevillians are all over this thread. They don't have a trophy to hang their hat's on, but they have the record for the loudest stadium. They don't want to lose that record in less than a month.