chicago bears wr sam hurd busted for drugs

[sayheykid1]

That reminded me of how Florida stole my idea and I love it (although, of course, the ACLU is suing to stop it because that organization is the scum of the earth and loves anything that's harmful or immoral):

36 States Mulling Drug Testing for Welfare Recipients

Multiple states and pending federal legislation may soon change the nature of America's government entitlement programs. Proposed laws in nearly 36 states and U.S. Senator David Vitter's Drug Free Families Act would mandate drug testing for welfare recipients and participants in other taxpayer funded social services programs. Florida passed a similar law last month, but testing is temporarily halted due to a lawsuit alleging Fourth Amendment violations of unreasonable search and seizure.

Drug Free Families Act

Senate Bill 83 seeks to amend Social Security Act Title IV to include a drug testing requirement for Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) program participants. If the federal law is passed, pending legislation in a growing number of states will no longer be necessary. The law would require any state offering financial assistance to adult recipients for illegal drug use. Entitlement program assistance will be denied if an individual tests positive or is convicted of a drug-related crime. Aid cannot be restored until a drug treatment program is completed and the potential recipient tests negative for drugs during a 6-month period after treatment.

State Drug Testing Legislation

Florida Governor Rick Scott campaigned on the issue of drug testing for welfare and signed a bill initiating the program into law in late October. Testing began several weeks ago but ended when a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) temporarily ended the practice. Language contained in the executive order mirrors that in the proposed federal legislation. Florida's law also includes mandatory drug testing of all state employees. A final ruling has not been issued in the lawsuit, which cites Fourth Amendment concerns, but is expected by the end of the year. Additional states with pending or preliminary welfare drug testing measures include Louisiana, Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio, Missouri, Arizona and Indiana.

Michigan Welfare Drug Testing Precedent

Michigan attempted to implement a mandatory welfare drug testing program in 2000. The law was opposed by the American Civil Liberties Union all the way to the Supreme Court. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote the majority decision in the case. Ginsburg stated that drug testing was an act of unreasonable search and seizure and violated Fourth Amendment protections. She further stated the state can only impose drug tests in cases where public safety is at risk.

The precedent set in the nearly decade old Michigan case is being swung by the ACLU like a heavy club in the pending Florida case. Defense attorneys representing the single father who filed an invasion of privacy complaint point to Gingburg's comments as a reason to terminate drug testing of TANF recipients in Florida. A provision in the law allows the state to share positive test results with law enforcement and a drug abuse hotline.

I am on the fence when it come to welfare recipients but I don't like the state employee policy.
It is odd that so many small government proponents endorse growing the government to enforce nanny state policies.

 

[NinerSickness]

It is odd that so many small government proponents endorse growing the government to enforce nanny state policies.

I see this kind of stuff like driving laws. Nobody HAS to follow driving laws. Nobody HAS to get auto insurance. They only have to thus if they want to drive a car.

It's the same thing. Nobody's forcing anyone to get a drug test. But if they want some money for doing nothing then I think it's a great idea make sure they're not simply being provided drugs by tax payers.

P.S. EVERY SINGLE person I know on welfare uses recreational drugs.

 

[sayheykid1]

I see this kind of stuff like driving laws. Nobody HAS to follow driving laws. Nobody HAS to get auto insurance. They only have to thus if they want to drive a car.

It's the same thing. Nobody's forcing anyone to get a drug test. But if they want some money for doing nothing then I think it's a great idea make sure they're not simply being provided drugs by tax payers.

P.S. EVERY SINGLE person I know on welfare uses recreational drugs.

That is why I am on the fence about welfare recipients, it is at least an incentive to get them off of welfare. I worry about the kids a bit though.
I don't know anyone on welfare but most everyone I know uses recreational drugs too, usually booze or weed.

 

[NinerSickness]

I don't know anyone on welfare but most everyone I know uses recreational drugs too, usually booze or weed.

Well alcohol isn't a drug, but I know what you mean; booze as in a Joe Namath level of booze.

 

[sayheykid1]

Well alcohol isn't a drug, but I know what you mean; booze as in a Joe Namath level of booze.

Alcohol is not a drug? You ingest it, it gets absorbed into your blood and it changes your state of mind.

 

[NinerSickness]

Alcohol is not a drug? You ingest it, it gets absorbed into your blood and it changes your state of mind.

So would liquid draino; so does Turkey for that matter, but that doesn't make 'em drugs. A drug crosses the blood brain barrier; drugs affect the body & brain in much different ways than alcohol does. That's why you can test for most drugs days, weeks & even many months after they're used. One can't do likewise with alcohol. In fact a small amount of alcohol is usually good for you.

Of course too much of it is bad. Too much WATER can kill you.

 

[sayheykid1]

So would liquid draino; so does Turkey for that matter, but that doesn't make 'em drugs. A drug crosses the blood brain barrier; drugs affect the body & brain in much different ways than alcohol does. That's why you can test for most drugs days, weeks & even many months after they're used. One can't do likewise with alcohol. In fact a small amount of alcohol is usually good for you.

Of course too much of it is bad. Too much WATER can kill you.

But weed isn't bad for a person and a little blow never hurt either.

 

[NinerSickness]

But weed isn't bad for a person and a little blow never hurt either.

I'm gonna have to borrow Calamity's sarcasm detector for this one. Can't tell...

It takes an EXTREMELY small amount of weed to affect the brain in an adverse way. Same with Coke.

One drink, for someone who doesn't drink on a regular basis and isn't like 90 pounds, has absolutely no adverse affect on the body. It might even be good for you. And this is coming from a guy who has a drink maybe once a year (if that). I'm always driving somewhere, and I refuse to even have a sip if I'm driving. I'll have a drink if I can sleep over.

 

[sayheykid1]

I'm gonna have to borrow Calamity's sarcasm detector for this one. Can't tell...

It takes an EXTREMELY small amount of weed to affect the brain in an adverse way. Same with Coke.

One drink, for someone who doesn't drink on a regular basis and isn't like 90 pounds, has absolutely no adverse affect on the body. It might even be good for you. And this is coming from a guy who has a drink maybe once a year (if that). I'm always driving somewhere, and I refuse to even have a sip if I'm driving. I'll have a drink if I can sleep over.

Fair enough.
I guess I am just a guy who thinks adults should be able to choose what they want to put into their bodies.

 

[NinerSickness]

I guess I am just a guy who thinks adults should be able to choose what they want to put into their bodies.

Well they can. They have to live with the consequences though, and so does society (e.g., Donte Stallworth).

 

[sayheykid1]

Well they can. They have to live with the consequences though, and so does society (e.g., Donte Stallworth).

I meant that they should be able to do so legally and without persecution from their employer provided it is on their own time.

 

[NinerSickness]

I meant that they should be able to do so legally and without persecution from their employer provided it is on their own time.

You don't think employers should be able ensure their employees aren't drug users? I couldn't disagree with that more. I bet you'd feel differently if you ever had to run a business.

 

[sayheykid1]

You don't think employers should be able ensure their employees aren't drug users? I couldn't disagree with that more. I bet you'd feel differently if you ever had to run a business.

Why shouldn;t someone be able to smoke some weed on the weekend? Is it any worse than a guy drinking a few beers on the weekend? I don't think so. How about people who vacation somewhere like Amsterdam?

I think workers should be judged on their performance not what they choose to do to themselves on their own time.

I have run many projects and departments over the years. I didn't worry about who was getting high on their time.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

$450 per pound of the weed

Sounds like bammer.

Hurd got a $1.35 mill signing bonus. Idiot.

 

[crash]

Bears will cut Sam Hurd | ProFootballTalk

bears cut him today....His career is over

 

[NinerSickness]

Why shouldn;t someone be able to smoke some weed on the weekend?

Because marijuana makes you stupider. Employers don't want stupid employees.

Is it any worse than a guy drinking a few beers on the weekend?

Yes (as long as it's just a "few").

How about people who vacation somewhere like Amsterdam?

Amsterdam is a perfect example of why certain drugs are illegal. Amsterdam is a toilet.

I think workers should be judged on their performance not what they choose to do to themselves on their own time.

Well if they're prospective employees they don't have any performance on which to judge them.

I have run many projects and departments over the years. I didn't worry about who was getting high on their time.

It's a lot different if it's your own business you're running.

 

[crash]

Attorney disputes list of players tied to ex-Bears WR Hurd....

The list hasn't been public yet..

Here are some players that i think does coke or maybe they are just crazy when the list comes public. There is a good chance there careers will be over!!

Tim tebow...lol it's not god winning games for him its the magic power

Tom brady....Short temper punk who can only cheat to win

Micheal singletary-He was never normal but to pull down ur pants in front guys something wrong lol he does wear a cross it got the magic stuff inside

James Harrison-He is just crazy when he is on the field

RAY LEWIS-This dude is a nut case

ndamukong suh aka King kong-the dude kills qb and stomp on people heads...


There is a chance these players aren't on coke...i was just having a little fun so dont get all crazy on me

 

[h0ckeysk83r]

Turns out the 49ers just needed to take some coke. Sam Hurd is the reason the 49ers are 10-3 lol

 

[Bracus]

Expect later on to find out that Mike and Marcus Vick were clients. Per @incarceratedbob.

 

[NinerSickness]

Tom brady....Short temper punk who can only cheat to win

Still doesn't have a non-cheating superbowl.