Game Thread: CFB Round 1 ALL DAY THREAD

[UK Cowboy]

For my entire life during bowl season

Me- " well yeah the SEC played well. Pretty much every one of their bowl games is a home game played in weather that favors them"

SEC fans- " oh whatever dude. Where the game is and the weather have nothing to do with anything!! SEC is just the best!!"

Then finally, after 47 years, an SEC team comes to the Midwest in December

And proceeds to lose by a million points

And their best player has to quit in the first quarter because his muscles locked up because of the cold

Im shocked. TRULY SHOCKED.

" See Indiana lost by 10 at ND! That proves an SEC team should've been in!"

"See SMU got smoked by Penn State! That proves an SEC team should've been in!!"

Tennessee loses by 3 dozen points.

" ummmmmm. Well....... uh......."

Lol

That'a boy. Puff that chest out far as you can...till y'all get ran next week....

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

Let's take a little more detailed look at Indiana's and Alabama's schedules. And instead of obsessing over losses, let's take a look at wins. Indiana's impressive 11-1 record was made by 11 wins over a schedule that had only one game against a ranked team, which they lost. The 11 wins included one, count 'em, one team with a winning record, 7-5 Michigan. The combined records of the teams against whom they achieved their 11 wins were 51-81.

OTOH, Alabama's wins contained only two teams with losing records, Wisconsin and Auburn, both at 5-7. Four of their wins were against teams that were ranked when they played them, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri and LSU. Six of their wins were against teams with winning records. The combined records of the teams Alabama beat was 71-40.

If Indiana had played Alabama's schedule, they would have been lucky to have come out with only three losses.

So, you're saying Alabama would have beaten Michigan? That would have been Alabama's 4th loss of the season. You are delusional...

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

That'a boy. Puff that chest out far as you can...till y'all get ran next week....

 

[fknhippie]

Unless your team won, these games were boring.

 

[Nat Mann]

So, you're saying Alabama would have beaten Michigan? That would have been Alabama's 4th loss of the season. You are delusional...

I said no such thing. What I actually said is that the best record of all the teams that Indiana beat was 7-5, the ONLY team they beat all year that had a winning record. I also actually said that the combined record of the teams Indiana beat was 51-81, which is far worse than the combined 71-40 record of Alabama's victories.

Alabama beat 11-2 Georgia, 9-3 South Carolina, 9-3 Missouri and 8-4 LSU. I don't know if Alabama would have beaten Notre Dame in South Bend, but I'm quite confident that they would have put on a better showing than Indiana did, or SMU did at Penn State.

I don't follow the logic of how you can say 11-1 Indiana is indisputably better than 9-3 Alabama, despite the huge disparity in their SOS, then turn around and guarantee that 9-3 Alabama would lose to 7-5 Michigan.

 

[Ron G]

The 12th or so seed teams all got their asses kicked. Like arguing about 11 seeds in the NCAA tournament, none of them mattered.

I do disagree, the 12 seeded football team is not the same as the 11 or 12 seeded basketball teams. Those are approximately the 45 thru 48 ranked teams.

 

[Ron G]

Let's take a little more detailed look at Indiana's and Alabama's schedules. And instead of obsessing over losses, let's take a look at wins. Indiana's impressive 11-1 record was made by 11 wins over a schedule that had only one game against a ranked team, which they lost. The 11 wins included one, count 'em, one team with a winning record, 7-5 Michigan. The combined records of the teams against whom they achieved their 11 wins were 51-81.

OTOH, Alabama's wins contained only two teams with losing records, Wisconsin and Auburn, both at 5-7. Four of their wins were against teams that were ranked when they played them, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri and LSU. Six of their wins were against teams with winning records. The combined records of the teams Alabama beat was 71-40.

If Indiana had played Alabama's schedule, they would have been lucky to have come out with only three losses.

Stop. The operative words in your statement are "instead of obsessing over losses". Losses count; multiple losses count more.
Texas A&M had better losses then Alabama (just more of them), maybe they should have gotten in over both Indiana and Alabama.

 

[PIBuckeye]

That'a boy. Puff that chest out far as you can...till y'all get ran next week....

So
You didn’t watch the game last week…..
Got it

 

[PIBuckeye]

Boards are very quiet today……. Hmmm

 

[HuskerOC]

Boards are very quiet today……. Hmmm

All the more games and more teams playoff folks got their shit pushed in this weekend.

You can feel them sitting on pins and needles waiting for that first upset to say "I told you so".

 

[All-Star Benchwarmer]

I said no such thing. What I actually said is that the best record of all the teams that Indiana beat was 7-5, the ONLY team they beat all year that had a winning record. I also actually said that the combined record of the teams Indiana beat was 51-81, which is far worse than the combined 71-40 record of Alabama's victories.

Alabama beat 11-2 Georgia, 9-3 South Carolina, 9-3 Missouri and 8-4 LSU. I don't know if Alabama would have beaten Notre Dame in South Bend, but I'm quite confident that they would have put on a better showing than Indiana did, or SMU did at Penn State.

I don't follow the logic of how you can say 11-1 Indiana is indisputably better than 9-3 Alabama, despite the huge disparity in their SOS, then turn around and guarantee that 9-3 Alabama would lose to 7-5 Michigan.

If Alabama didn't choke on their cupcakes...

 

[HuskerOC]

If Alabama didn't choke on their cupcakes...

From what we've already seen this bowl season, cupcakes like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt can easily beat any non-P4 championship team.

 

[Nat Mann]

Stop. The operative words in your statement are "instead of obsessing over losses". Losses count; multiple losses count more.
Texas A&M had better losses then Alabama (just more of them), maybe they should have gotten in over both Indiana and Alabama.

Those are far from the operative words, which were "Strength of Schedule", "only one team with a winning record", "Indiana's wins had a collective record of 51-81" none of which you've addressed.

 

[PIBuckeye]

If Alabama didn't choke on their cupcakes...

Yep
The last loss sealed their fate
I’m sick and tired of hearing all the whining…

 

[PIBuckeye]

Those are far from the operative words, which were "Strength of Schedule", "only one team with a winning record", "Indiana's wins had a collective record of 51-81" none of which you've addressed.

Ok
This whole thing gets tricky. How far do you want to go with SOS? Let’s say Alabama went 7-5, and all 5 of their losses came to top 20 teams. Are you saying Alabama should be in the playoffs over an 11-1 Indiana?

 

[PIBuckeye]

I do think maybe some required criteria should be put into effect when scheduling OOC games.

 

[Ron G]

I do think maybe some required criteria should be put into effect when scheduling OOC games.

How about this: Wins over Power 5 teams count 10 points, losses count 5; wins over Group 5 teams count 5 points, losses count 0 (in conference. Group 5 wins count 8 points losses count 4): Wins over FCS teams count 0, losses count -10. Conference championship wins count 10 and losses counts 5, Group 5 CCG , 8 for a win and 5 for a loss.
Top 12 teams in total points are seeded into the playoff. In case of ties for the 12 or 11 spots, head to decides, if still a tie, then a play in similar to the play in the Monday and Tuesday of the first week of March Madness.

So in a typical season, a Power 4 team that plays 8 games would be guaranteed 40 points with a shot at 90 points by being undefeated and playing in the Conference championship. They could get more points depending on their OOC wins and losses. Teams that play 9 conference games would only have 3 00C games.
Independents such as Notre Dame would have a potential of 90 points for the 9 P4 teams they play and 15 for the OOC if they scheduled 2 more P4 teams (they will not drop Navy). For Notre Dame they would have a potential 115 points, while conference teams would have a max of 130 depending on the 00C schedule. Group 5 teams would have a max of 102 points but they would have schedule either 3 or 4 OOC Power 4 teams depending on their number conference games.

For reference: This year would give Alabama 101 point and Bosie State 102. If Alabama played a Group 5 instead of Mercer they would have 106.
Although Bosie State did also play an FCS. Notre Dame would have 100 points because of the loss to NIU 9 (don't lose to a Group 5). Under this system, if they beat NIU but lost to a Power 5 they would still have 100 points..

Any team playing and FCS team and having 3 losses would have a hard time making the playoff other than through a tie and a play in game.

I think it would take a minimum of a 90 points to make the 12 team playoff. This is because currently no team plays 12 Power 4 teams and many play an FCS.

This take a lot of the subjectivity out of the selection process.

 

[bamagrad75]

The Twitter comments about Tennessee have been brutal.

And I'm enjoying every word of it.

 

[bamagrad75]

That SMU game was simply riveting.

 

[bksballer89]

That SMU game was simply riveting.

what about the tennessee game?