Canucks to retire Pavel Bures #10

[DChero]

I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating Sun Chips.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Vanc. Sun and Pass it to Bulis saying Canucks not going to retire Bures number

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I was thinking this morning is Gino pulling a fast one and trying to put the heat on the franchise to get Pavels number retired???

He's down there (Miami) visiting Pavel this week

 

[forty_three]

I will say I really enjoyed watching those Pat Quinn coached Canucks (of course I am a big Trevor Linden fan)

Number 16 is in the rafters, right?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

yowza

The sensational story today about Vancouver Canuck owner Francesco Aquilini flying across the continent to offer Pavel Bure a jersey retirement ceremony was not only news to fans, but news to the National Hockey League team.

Aquilini has not commented on the report, which quotes only ex-Canuck Gino Odjick, so no one from the organization is speaking on the record about it. But it’s clear people in the Canucks have no knowledge of this plan because, almost certainly, it does not exist

 

[dash]

Number 16 is in the rafters, right?

Yes sir.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

What the heck did Pavel Bure do to piss everyone off?

 

[puckhead]

What the heck did Pavel Bure do to piss everyone off?

held out for a half-season while he demanded a trade out of town.
he thought his $ was guaranteed during the lockout, management disagreed.
feelings were hurt.

also, he wasn't lovey-dovey with the media like Linden/Naslund were.

 

[TOX1]

What the heck did Pavel Bure do to piss everyone off?

held out for a half-season while he demanded a trade out of town.
he thought his $ was guaranteed during the lockout, management disagreed.
feelings were hurt.

also, he wasn't lovey-dovey with the media like Linden/Naslund were.

Those are some serious reasons for some folks to turn their back on him too..

All I know is that I loved watching the guy play. He is and will probably always be in my top 5 favs. Whether or not his number should be hanging from the rafters is question I'll leave to the ones who watched him play game in and game out.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

What the heck did Pavel Bure do to piss everyone off?

held out for a half-season while he demanded a trade out of town.
he thought his $ was guaranteed during the lockout, management disagreed.
feelings were hurt.

also, he wasn't lovey-dovey with the media like Linden/Naslund were.

Those are some serious reasons for some folks to turn their back on him too..

All I know is that I loved watching the guy play. He is and will probably always be in my top 5 favs. Whether or not his number should be hanging from the rafters is question I'll leave to the ones who watched him play game in and game out.

I dont think anyone knows 100% for sure what happened or how it all went bad between the 2 parties ... i honestly dont even think the franchise or Pavel knows

thats why hes such a public enigma ,,, because everything is about rumour when it comes to how and why he left.

whats clear is that its a committee of canucks alumni/management/former media that are the ones responsible for deciding who gets their number retired in vancouver ... Gillis recused himself from this committee because he was Pavels agent (and the guy who was hired to help Pavel get traded from Vancouver) ... and the owner Aquilini only has a say (not veto power - lol)

anyways heres TG with an article and something from it that made me chuckle

No question Canucks should raise Bure's number


Bure left Red Army, where he was still under contract, to go to Los Angeles with his father Vladimir to wait for his NHL eligibility to be cleared up. That arbitration case, with the NHL's Brian Burke right in the centre, was media fodder for months. His first face-to-face interview with a Vancouver journalist -- the Sun's Mike Beamish -- resulted in the young star being slapped in that face by his dad for answering a question, his dad felt, in a flippant manner. At the time he said nobody from the Canucks had even spoken to him in two weeks, an early indication he wasn't going to take any bleep from management in the days when players and team people didn't appreciate each other much.

 

[pixburgher66]

I feel like if they do retire Bure's jersey that the Pens have to retire Jagr's...

 

[higgyfan4]

I feel like if they do retire Bure's jersey that the Pens have to retire Jagr's...

I would almost say the same for Fedorov in Detroit, but I don't think it will happen.

 

[forty_three]

I feel like if they do retire Bure's jersey that the Pens have to retire Jagr's...

I would almost say the same for Fedorov in Detroit, but I don't think it will happen.

These teams need to stop getting into political battles and letting hurt feelings come into it. If the teams permeate the free agent culture, then they have to expect that people will leave, and it won't always be pretty.

A jersey retirement needs to be an acknowledgement of a players' contributions on the ice, period. Will anyone ever be able to wear that number for that team with more distinction?

Jagr - No
Bure - No
Federov - No

Lindros, Nash, Hasek (Buffalo) etc, Doesn't matter how it ended. Just what they meant when they were there.

 

[mattola]

I feel like if they do retire Bure's jersey that the Pens have to retire Jagr's...

I would almost say the same for Fedorov in Detroit, but I don't think it will happen.

Like Bure Im all over these 2 guys getting their numbers up. really to me the first criteria is performance. then public perception. I dont agree with NAslund being up but I do on Linden and Smyl. Its not about points for me. its effort and what they provided for that team in regular season AND playoffs. not just one. that is important to me. those guys met that. Naslund never did in the playoffs. I could never get excited with him as Captain of our team in a series. I love him as a skilled player moreso as a humanitarian but he just didnt have what I look at a playoff performer.

 

[TOX1]

I hear ya Matt. It is mostly about the numbers, not the heart....otherwise the Hall would be full with the Dave Schultzs' of the league and those players would have gotten in on their first chance too.

 

[puckhead]

Bure left Red Army, where he was still under contract, to go to Los Angeles with his father Vladimir to wait for his NHL eligibility to be cleared up. That arbitration case, with the NHL's Brian Burke right in the centre, was media fodder for months. His first face-to-face interview with a Vancouver journalist -- the Sun's Mike Beamish -- resulted in the young star being slapped in that face by his dad for answering a question, his dad felt, in a flippant manner. At the time he said nobody from the Canucks had even spoken to him in two weeks, an early indication he wasn't going to take any bleep from management in the days when players and team people didn't appreciate each other much.

remember there was supposed to be that rushed wedding in LA to some actress, so 'Pasha' could get North American citizenship right away.
it was pretty goofy from the get-go.

TG has also floated a rumour yesterday that Aquilini is planning to go to FLA to meet Bure soon, and the topic of jersey retirement will come up... but it hasn't happened yet

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I dont think anyone knows 100% for sure what happened or how it all went bad between the 2 parties ... i honestly dont even think the franchise or Pavel knows

thats why hes such a public enigma ,,, because everything is about rumour when it comes to how and why he left.

whats clear is that its a committee of canucks alumni/management/former media that are the ones responsible for deciding who gets their number retired in vancouver ... Gillis recused himself from this committee because he was Pavels agent (and the guy who was hired to help Pavel get traded from Vancouver) ... and the owner Aquilini only has a say (not veto power - lol)

anyways heres TG with an article and something from it that made me chuckle

No question Canucks should raise Bure's number


Bure left Red Army, where he was still under contract, to go to Los Angeles with his father Vladimir to wait for his NHL eligibility to be cleared up. That arbitration case, with the NHL's Brian Burke right in the centre, was media fodder for months. His first face-to-face interview with a Vancouver journalist -- the Sun's Mike Beamish -- resulted in the young star being slapped in that face by his dad for answering a question, his dad felt, in a flippant manner. At the time he said nobody from the Canucks had even spoken to him in two weeks, an early indication he wasn't going to take any bleep from management in the days when players and team people didn't appreciate each other much.

I remember when he was drafted a number of GM's complained. The Canucks won the case though.

 

[mattola]

I remember when he was drafted a number of GM's complained. The Canucks won the case though.

biggest complainer was The Capitals George McPhee wasnt it? he just went there from Vancouver. everyone was just upset that we got an inside track on a marvellous talent. it happens so infrequently with us

 

[puckhead]

biggest complainer was The Capitals George McPhee wasnt it? he just went there from Vancouver. everyone was just upset that we got an inside track on a marvellous talent. it happens so infrequently with us

after he screwed us over on the Gretzky signing.
fuck him. fuck him forever for shitting all over that deal.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

TG has also floated a rumour yesterday that Aquilini is planning to go to FLA to meet Bure soon, and the topic of jersey retirement will come up... but it hasn't happened yet

it was gino odjick who said that they were meeting in florida (in the botchford article)

tg said on the afternoon radio show that bure & aquilini were meeting this weekend at some point for dinner at hall of fame induction weekend in toronto