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Cannon, 5 yr extension

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So much for a new RT
 

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Yeah..and Vollmer isn't playing again this year...and I think he played his last game as a Patriot in the 2017 AFC title game at RT.
 

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5yrs for 30+mil a yr...
 

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5yrs for 30+mil a yr...

5 years, $32.5M. $14M guaranteed.

Scarneccia has turned this guy around and he's been playing excellent at RT. Brady has not been hit from the outside on the right. He's been hit inside and it's been Mason who's missed the inside block. Before now I would have said this was a horrible move, Sorry BigKen, you would have been wrong. Scar has turned Cannon into the starting RT until 2021. Vollmer is history. See ya.
 

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Cannon should name a kid after Scar after what he has done for him.
I kid
 

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Was just reading he has only given up 1 sack/hit on Brady, and that was in week 1. SO....I'll admit he has been good, but I would like to see what he can do vs Miller and those pass rushers in Denver. Even this week vs Stl should be a good test.
 

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5 years, $32.5M. $14M guaranteed.

Scarneccia has turned this guy around and he's been playing excellent at RT. Brady has not been hit from the outside on the right. He's been hit inside and it's been Mason who's missed the inside block. Before now I would have said this was a horrible move, Sorry BigKen, you would have been wrong. Scar has turned Cannon into the starting RT until 2021. Vollmer is history. See ya.

Almost makes you think they turn to RG/LT next yr, unless they think Jackson can come back. I really think Solder is here for a few more yrs
 

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Solder is at a point where he really can't play the LT position as it needs to played in 2016 and beyond. He's always had slow feet and speed rushers create real problems for him. He doesn't have long arms so a push on a defender doesn't take the defender on a huge circle to get by him. In all honesty, he's becoming a short term back up.

The LT position today requires a person 6'5" -6'7" anywhere from 315-330. Most critical, is that he must have a first step under 1 second. He has to be able to come out of a three point stance moving his left fot before the defender is picking up his rear foot coming forward. If he can't, he has to throw himself in front of the defender or all can do is push the defender's left shoulder. This is where most offensive holding penalties occur because the LT will grab the defender's shirt. Speed is the #1 tool in the LT toolbox. If he doesn't have it, he can't play the position. 44 years of coaching kids has taught me a lot about what a player needs for every position and why. Solder doesn't have many tools left in his toolbox.
 

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So any way the Pats would be willing to loan their Offensive Line Coach to the Broncos for a few weeks? If he can do that for Cannon I would love to see what he could do with the Broncos group as all of them are looking like Cannon of the past couple of years.
 

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So any way the Pats would be willing to loan their Offensive Line Coach to the Broncos for a few weeks? If he can do that for Cannon I would love to see what he could do with the Broncos group as all of them are looking like Cannon of the past couple of years.
You saw what happened to the Past line when he retired so I will speak for the rest and say sorry, no.
Thanks for asking though LOL
 

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You saw what happened to the Past line when he retired so I will speak for the rest and say sorry, no.
Thanks for asking though LOL

Haha dang it. Doesn't hurt to ask.
 

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So any way the Pats would be willing to loan their Offensive Line Coach to the Broncos for a few weeks? If he can do that for Cannon I would love to see what he could do with the Broncos group as all of them are looking like Cannon of the past couple of years.

Sure, just let us borrow Derby for 8 weeks.
 

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Sure, just let us borrow Derby for 8 weeks.

Haha honestly I might take that trade. The OL is that bad right now. I do appreciate Derby though. Might actually have a competent TE for the first time in a long time.
 

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5 years, $32.5M. $14M guaranteed.

Scarneccia has turned this guy around and he's been playing excellent at RT. Brady has not been hit from the outside on the right. He's been hit inside and it's been Mason who's missed the inside block. Before now I would have said this was a horrible move, Sorry BigKen, you would have been wrong. Scar has turned Cannon into the starting RT until 2021. Vollmer is history. See ya.

Solder certainly have gotten Brady light up as of late
 

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Solder is at a point where he really can't play the LT position as it needs to played in 2016 and beyond. He's always had slow feet and speed rushers create real problems for him. He doesn't have long arms so a push on a defender doesn't take the defender on a huge circle to get by him. In all honesty, he's becoming a short term back up.

The LT position today requires a person 6'5" -6'7" anywhere from 315-330. Most critical, is that he must have a first step under 1 second. He has to be able to come out of a three point stance moving his left fot before the defender is picking up his rear foot coming forward. If he can't, he has to throw himself in front of the defender or all can do is push the defender's left shoulder. This is where most offensive holding penalties occur because the LT will grab the defender's shirt. Speed is the #1 tool in the LT toolbox. If he doesn't have it, he can't play the position. 44 years of coaching kids has taught me a lot about what a player needs for every position and why. Solder doesn't have many tools left in his toolbox.

That pretty much says it all, Ken.
As much as we may like the guy, the game is passing him by.
Really we knew this last year but LT's are scarce!
 
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