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Browns Stunned by Johnny Manziel

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Went back to UT and got his degree too, didn't he?
Vince did get his degree and he should forget about the NFL and pursue a different career.
 

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Vince Young has been a dud as an NFL QB.

Until he imploded after a Titans game, he was far from a dud. That outburst sealed his fate though.

VY isn't a bad guy and he's proving that right now. Like I've said before, I find it very, very hard to believe that he's not better than many of the guys I see on the active list in the NFL.
 

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Vince Young and JaCarcuss Russell both come to mind.

I'm sorry, and don't want to be rude, but this statement is just ignorance.

To put Vince Young in the same ballpark with Jamarcus Russell is stupid. Just the fact that they are completely different in types of people, they didn't even have the same kind of game.

Occasionally, it is helpful for all of us (including me) to think before we say things that we really don't know anything about.

Not being mean or anything, because I've said stupid shit before many times, then realize that I really didn't know enough on the subject to warrant opening my mouth. It happens to everybody sometimes.
 

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Leave it to a Longhorn fan to post this non-story. God damn. Y'all just have zero shame these days.
 

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If I had to bet money right now, I'd bet that Manziel never achieves what Vince did. He'll be doing Wednesday afternoon signings at Larry Wayne's Cards & Collectibles in College Station before you know it.
 

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Very true.

By the same token, if he goes out there and sucks, the Johnny bashing will be 10,000 times worse than it is now.

If he sucks, it's because the Browns fucking suck.
 

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If he sucks, it's because the Browns fucking suck.

They're letting this rookie control them and that's certainly difficult to respect.
 

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Vince Young has been a dud as an NFL QB.

what the hell does that have to do with the quote you highlighted from me?

In addition to that, your statement is not completely accurate.

He was not great in the NFL, but he had a few pretty good years. His immaturity pretty much precluded any chance he possibly could have had to play long enough to develop some NFL skills.

But as a college quarterback and leader of a team, he was unmatched. And to my quote, he was not a partier, loud, into drugs, or into any kind of extravagance while in school. He did not get money under the table and go out and purchase a $50,000 vehicle with no income, were my points.
 

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They're letting this rookie control them and that's certainly difficult to respect.
Everyone is getting their shorts in a knot over Johnny Football. Wait till the season starts instead of prematurely condemning him.
 

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This thread is about Johnny breaking a promise to the Browns to tone down the partying.

Why are we talking about Vince Young? :noidea:
 

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yeah athletes and their egos, hard to contain them.
 

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This thread is about Johnny breaking a promise to the Browns to tone down the partying.

Why are we talking about Vince Young? :noidea:
Ask Texas Jeffe. He's in love with Vince Young.
 

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Everyone is getting their shorts in a knot over Johnny Football. Wait till the season starts instead of prematurely condemning him.

You are joking. Right. You're joking?

This is a thread about Johnny Football partying and I made a rather benign, 100% factual statement about that.

You? You said this.

Vince Young has been a dud as an NFL QB.

Vince did get his degree and he should forget about the NFL and pursue a different career.

This thread is about Johnny Manziel. Discuss that and I'll do the same. :suds: Does that make sense to you?
 

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my bad, I apologize. Got sidetracked :doh:

From now on please consult Guns N Guitars about what you are and aren't allowed to discuss. Seems in a thread about Johnny Manziel, he'd prefer that we talk about Vince Young, a subject for which he's quite expert. :L
 
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