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Browns sticking with Hoyer

Wamu

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That was the year they traded up for Brady Quinn when they had Derek Anderson playing well enough not to get benched.

Funny how history repeats itself.

Yep.
 

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If you triangulate your location between Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh, is it ok to just pick a team based on how they are doing that season?

I bet if I did that the Ravens would win the superbowl again
 

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If you triangulate your location between Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh, is it ok to just pick a team based on how they are doing that season?

I bet if I did that the Ravens would win the superbowl again

Are you considering relocating to Zanesville, OH?
 

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I wonder if Johnny F'stick can back up his swag?
 

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Well, if Kurt Warner said it, I guess I'll change my mind.....

Hoyer isn't good enough to get them to the playoffs given the teams still on their schedule. And he's certainly not good enough to win a game in the playoffs. He's good enough to manage a game and they might win if everything else goes right.

It's surprising to me that people that recognize these same faults in Dalton (or Smith) make excuses for keeping Hoyer in the game when you have better talent (albeit raw) on the bench.

And if I'm wrong, I'll be here J-Will style.

I've never advocated Dalton be benched for another QB 12 games into the season, and especially not a rookie as you said yourself is "raw".

I'd love for McCarron to start next season, but would never advocate starting him now.
 

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I've never advocated Dalton be benched for another QB 12 games into the season, and especially not a rookie as you said yourself is "raw".

I'd love for McCarron to start next season, but would never advocate starting him now.

I think there is a big difference between Manziel and McCarron. I wouldn't advocate for McCarron either.
 

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I think there is a big difference between Manziel and McCarron. I wouldn't advocate for McCarron either.

Conceptuality is what is important here. The rest is up to the coaching staff and the players (presumably the captains) whom they seek another opinion from to determine Hoyer's value vs. Manziel's.
 

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I think most coaches would stick with Hoyer. I can't dispute that.

I think a coach like Jim Harbaugh wouldn't worry about it and would replace the guy if he felt it would help him win. I don't think most coaches coach that way though..... I think they worry about losing the locker room or having an unconventional call backfire.

I will say though that it will look bad for Pettine if the Browns lose, he makes the move a week late and the Browns miss the playoffs by a game.
 

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the upside is higher with Manziel, but the worst that can happen is pretty messy as well.
 

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Shocking...... Hoyer didn't come through.

Looks like we get to have the privilege of playing Johnny Football.
 

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really?

I thought they were just going to keep in their denial until next season.
 

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If a bunch of teams lose, and they win, then they will be in the WC spot.

my guess is they go with Hoyer one more game.
 
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