Brian Burke, tell us how you really feel

[puckhead]

today on the radio: "I loathe the shootout. I hate it. I detest it. I despise it. I don't know if I can be clearer."



/tell me more about 'truculence', Uncle Bri-bri

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

I agree with him.

 

[awaz]

good for him being blunt about it..

i hate the point breakdown more than the shootout though.. should be 3 for a reg win, 2 for ot/shootout win, 1 for ot/shootout loss

 

[puckhead]

good for him being blunt about it..

i hate the point breakdown more than the shootout though.. should be 3 for a reg win, 2 for ot/shootout win, 1 for ot/shootout loss

yes - however they do it, all games need to be worth the same amount of points.


he also said he'd be in favour of the 4-on-4 OT followed by a 3-on-3 OT that was on display at the research camp, if only to reduce the amount of shootouts

 

[DChero]

I'm all for taking away the loser point. That point is for tying, not coming close.

As far as the shootout is concerned, I love it. It's an exciting way to finish a tough game and no one gets injured on them. Well, almost no one..

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I'm all for taking away the loser point. That point is for tying, not coming close.

As far as the shootout is concerned, I love it. It's an exciting way to finish a tough game and no one gets injured on them. Well, almost no one..

theyre working on the "structure" of the shootout too ... ie making it a best of 5 like soccer and then letting guys shoot over again (ie Toews at the juniors)

 

[mattola]

does anyone see fans leaving early when a game goes to shootout? turning off the TV?

I dont and I wont. I like it. just keep it out of the playoffs.

 

[awaz]

I'm all for taking away the loser point. That point is for tying, not coming close.

As far as the shootout is concerned, I love it. It's an exciting way to finish a tough game and no one gets injured on them. Well, almost no one..

i understand why they do the loser point.. teams wouldn't play aggressive at all in OT if they didn't have the loser point.. although without ties it does become somewhat irrelevant.. although i think teams would sit back and wait for the shootout as a better way to decide it.. which would make shootout specialists worth way more and the shootout way more important if they got rid of the loser point..

 

[awaz]

does anyone see fans leaving early when a game goes to shootout? turning off the TV?

I dont and I wont. I like it. just keep it out of the playoffs.

i think its a really anti-climatic way to end a game, especially one that was obviously a good game (since it went into OT in the first place).. but id rather have the shootout and no ties then have ties and no shootout

ties suck.. you cant be pissed about a loss, and you cant be happy about a win.. its just kind of

 

[mattola]

i think its a really anti-climatic way to end a game, especially one that was obviously a good game (since it went into OT in the first place).. but id rather have the shootout and no ties then have ties and no shootout

ties suck.. you cant be pissed about a loss, and you cant be happy about a win.. its just kind of

i still dont like the loser point. not at all. even if it benefitted my team

 

[DChero]

i understand why they do the loser point.. teams wouldn't play aggressive at all in OT if they didn't have the loser point.. although without ties it does become somewhat irrelevant.. although i think teams would sit back and wait for the shootout as a better way to decide it.. which would make shootout specialists worth way more and the shootout way more important if they got rid of the loser point..

I'm going to respectfully disagree here. Without a loser point, teams will have more pressure to win the game before waiting for the loss to come.

As pointed out, shootout specialists are becoming the NHL's kick returners. Sure, some of the better forwards and defensemen fit, but it is a good way for a utility guy to make a big impact. There's a good example on the Penguins. Malkin is an amazing player during the game, but he's awful in the shootout. Kris Letang isn't one of the better goal-scorers on the team, but he's great in the shootout. Right now, the guy that scores the winning shootout goal earned an extra standings point for his team. That's more helpful than the hat trick goals someone scores in a 7-0 win.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

today on the radio: "I loathe the shootout. I hate it. I detest it. I despise it. I don't know if I can be clearer."

Bryan Burke sounds like a whiny little girl

 

[awaz]

I'm going to respectfully disagree here. Without a loser point, teams will have more pressure to win the game before waiting for the loss to come.

well i guess we disagree..

the loser point originated when teams would get 2 for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for any loss.. teams would stop playing late in the 3rd period and in OT because they didn't want to make a mistake and end up getting no points.. it was a safer decision to play passive and preserve 1 point, instead of risking it..

currently, i think the loser point prevents teams from doing the same thing, playing passive at the end of the 3rd and in OT to get to the shootout, and then just load up on guys that are good at shootouts.. basically teams will get very skilled in the shootout and then play to get to a shootout where they, theoretically, have the advantage over the other team..

as it stands (or in the 3 point proposal) teams can only 'lose' one point by giving up a goal in OT, which isn't as big of a deal as losing out on 2 points if the loser point is eliminated.. therefore teams are willing to risk that point to try to win the game before the shootout and the shootout is less important


as a coach i would always tell my team to play aggressive and go after the win at the end of the 3rd and in OT regardless of the point break down because playing passive is pussy shit, but i dont think thats the way most of the NHL operates..

 

[DChero]

well i guess we disagree..

the loser point originated when teams would get 2 for a win, 1 for a tie, 0 for any loss.. teams would stop playing late in the 3rd period and in OT because they didn't want to make a mistake and end up getting no points.. it was a safer decision to play passive and preserve 1 point, instead of risking it..

currently, i think the loser point prevents teams from doing the same thing, playing passive at the end of the 3rd and in OT to get to the shootout, and then just load up on guys that are good at shootouts.. basically teams will get very skilled in the shootout and then play to get to a shootout where they, theoretically, have the advantage over the other team..

as it stands (or in the 3 point proposal) teams can only 'lose' one point by giving up a goal in OT, which isn't as big of a deal as losing out on 2 points if the loser point is eliminated.. therefore teams are willing to risk that point to try to win the game before the shootout and the shootout is less important


as a coach i would always tell my team to play aggressive and go after the win at the end of the 3rd and in OT regardless of the point break down because playing passive is pussy shit, but i dont think thats the way most of the NHL operates..

Ok, very good points. I guess it's just a different point of view.

Since you're a Flyers fan and I'm a Penguins fan, we're going to have to fight anyway. So without further adieu... Your mom goes to college.

 

[dash]

Bryan Burke sounds like a whiny little girl

Classic interview with David Pratt and Mrs. Brian Burke (lol)

/rep

 

[dash]

Just my opinion, but teams should be rewarded for winning the game in regulation time and the bonus point should be given out for regulation wins rather than overtime wins. This would also make all games worth the same usually the following point breakdown structure:

3 points - Regulation win
2 points - OT/SO win
1 point - OT/SO loss
0 points - regulation loss

Of course, the NHL thinks an additional column in the standings is too complicated for fans to comprehend.

 

[Comeds]

I'd rather a coin flip be used than 3 on 3 OT. I'd prefer a quick game of Battleship© to 3 on 3 as well.

 

[DChero]

I'd rather a coin flip be used than 3 on 3 OT. I'd prefer a quick game of Battleship© to 3 on 3 as well.

I'm actually fine with the current structure, just not too crazy about the loser point. 4 on 4 play and shootouts are generally exciting and leave room for additional penalties.

 

[BOSSMANPC]

It must have been a slow day and Brian Burke spotted a microphone.

 

[DevilishWon]

today on the radio: "I loathe the shootout. I hate it. I detest it. I despise it. I don't know if I can be clearer."



/tell me more about 'truculence', Uncle Bri-bri

Somebody tell Burkie it's not healthy to hold his emotions in...he's got to let it out!