Braxton Miller

[redseat]

Want him?

Not saying he will fall to the Patriots and even if he does will BB do it

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Yes.

Not a burner, but very athletic and intelligent.
Edelman 2.0.
Younger, taller, faster.
They would be dangerous together with Gronk and Bennett.

3 QB's on the field at once...Run a flea flicker or two in preseason and defenses will be toast for the year.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

Depends on where, esp for this team. Only 1 yr at WR in college. You see how difficult it is for players to come here and learn the system. Don't get me wrong, the kid is talented and is very shifty to get open, but not sure how his route running is. My question, how smart is he? You know how TB is for the team. I would rather have Will Fuller in the 3rd rd, than spending a 2nd rd pick on Miller, esp if you are looking for speed.

 

[SDGuy73]

Depends on where, esp for this team. Only 1 yr at WR in college. You see how difficult it is for players to come here and learn the system. Don't get me wrong, the kid is talented and is very shifty to get open, but not sure how his route running is. My question, how smart is he? You know how TB is for the team. I would rather have Will Fuller in the 3rd rd, than spending a 2nd rd pick on Miller, esp if you are looking for speed.

That right there is why I don't get the whole DA has to go. Makes no sense.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

That right there is why I don't get the whole DA has to go. Makes no sense.

He doesn't have to go if he's willing to renegotiate his contract. Take a few less $ to stay with Brady and the Pats or go back to watching the playoffs from your couch.

 

[CreepCreep2014]

That right there is why I don't get the whole DA has to go. Makes no sense.

Neither do I. I mean if you have to save money why not cut Cannon. You are going to release a guy who knows the system and TB trusts now, for a OT who can't even get out of a stance!?!?! You can get someone in the draft for 500,000 that can suck like Cannon. Have to keep Dola. He is to important to this offense.

 

[SDGuy73]

He doesn't have to go if he's willing to renegotiate his contract. Take a few less $ to stay with Brady and the Pats or go back to watching the playoffs from your couch.

Why should he have to take another pay cut? Pats offered him the contract. Deal with it!

 

[CreepCreep2014]

I agree. He is the 2nd best WR on this team. Not TE, but WR. He has been here and knows the system. Should he be making more than JE11, no, but that is not his fault. Maybe make it up to him. Like I said, Cannon has no business on this team for the money he is making.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Why should he have to take another pay cut? Pats offered him the contract. Deal with it![/QUOTE
Times change. He's been overpaid since he arrived. He's had 6 TDs. Sorry it's a business thing. He finally had a good year last year. Don't get me wrong I like AD just not at $5 million + with the Pats current situation. By all means if it was just between him and Cannon? Cannon would definetely be gone.

 

[SDGuy73]

Times change. He's been overpaid since he arrived. He's had 6 TDs. Sorry it's a business thing. He finally had a good year last year. Don't get me wrong I like AD just not at $5 million + with the Pats current situation. By all means if it was just between him and Cannon? Cannon would definetely be gone.

I know it's a business. The Pats have no one to replace AD. Also, I find it ridiculous how fans want players like AD to take pay cut....then get pissed off when a player wants a pay raise. Gronk flat out should be demanding a new contract. Like you said, it's business.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I know it's a business. The Pats have no one to replace AD. Also, I find it ridiculous how fans want players like AD to take pay cut....then get pissed off when a player wants a pay raise. Gronk flat out should be demanding a new contract. Like you said, it's business.

Even in the business world if you don't perform, you don't get paid or risk losing your job. True they don't have another Amendola but they added Bennett and Washington. There are only so many balls to go around.

 

[BigKen]

The Pats won't approach Amendola unless it's absolutely necessary. BB knows where his cap position is and what he needs to get back to the Super Bowl. He also knows where he can take a sharp knife and skin off an extra couple of dollars.
Below is the current salaries and cap hits for the Patriots. I can't get this to align so you'll have to figure it out .
Reading across is the 2016 salary, the cap hit (dead money) Total and then percent of the cap.

BradyTom Brady QB $1,000,000 $13,000,000 - - - - - ($40,000,000) $14,000,000 8.77
SolderNate Solder LT $6,000,000 $4,166,666 $125,000 - $31,000 - - ($14,333,334) $10,322,666 6.47
McCourtyDevin McCourty FS $4,500,000 $3,000,000 $437,500 - - - - ($16,500,000) $7,937,500 4.97
HightowerDont'a Hightower OLB $7,751,000 - - - - - - ($7,751,000) $7,751,000 4.86
SheardJabaal Sheard DE $4,000,000 $2,000,000 $812,500 - - - - ($2,500,000) $6,812,500 4.27
AmendolaDanny Amendola WR $5,000,000 $1,366,666 $437,500 - - - - ($2,733,334) $6,804,166 4.26
GronkowskiRob Gronkowski TE $2,250,000 $1,650,000 $468,750 $2,000,000 $250,000 - - ($9,650,000) $6,618,750 4.15
HoganChris Hogan WR $1,000,000 - $4,500,000 - - - - ($7,500,000) $5,500,000 3.45
VollmerSebastian Vollmer RT $2,250,000 $2,083,334 $875,000 - - - - ($3,083,334) $5,208,334 3.26
BennettMartellus Bennett TE $5,085,000 - - - $100,000 - - ($1,125,000) $5,185,000 3.25
CannonMarcus Cannon LT $3,400,000 $1,066,668 $187,500 - $100,000 - - ($1,066,668) $4,754,168 2.98
NinkovichRob Ninkovich DE $1,500,000 $2,750,000 $400,000 - $100,000 - - ($2,750,000) $4,750,000 2.98
EdelmanJulian Edelman WR $2,500,000 $1,250,000 $421,875 - $250,000 - - ($2,500,000) $4,421,875 2.77
GostkowskiStephen Gostkowski K $2,300,000 $1,500,000 $200,000 - $100,000 - - ($6,800,000) $4,100,000 2.57
ChungPatrick Chung SS $1,400,000 $800,000 $187,500 - - - $900,000 ($1,600,000) $3,287,500 2.06
BranchAlan Branch DT $1,200,000 $350,000 $800,000 - - - $400,000 ($750,000) $2,750,000 1.72
CooperJonathan Cooper G $675,000 - $1,713,955 - - - - ($2,388,955) $2,388,955 1.50
LongChris Long DE $1,250,000 $500,000 $625,000 - - - - ($1,000,000) $2,375,000 1.49
McClellinShea McClellin ILB $1,000,000 $833,333 $300,000 - $100,000 - - ($3,500,000) $2,233,333 1.40
KlineJosh Kline G $950,000 $250,000 $175,000 - - - $800,000 ($500,000) $2,175,000 1.36
EasleyDominique Easley DT $1,083,959 $907,918 - - - - - ($2,899,795) $1,991,877 1.25
RyanLogan Ryan CB $1,661,000 $140,813 - - $10,000 - - ($140,813) $1,811,813 1.13
HarmonDuron Harmon SS $1,665,000 $133,400 - - $6,000 - - ($139,400) $1,804,400 1.13
SlaterMatthew Slater WR $1,000,000 $666,667 - - - - $100,000 ($666,667) $1,766,667 1.11
FreenyJonathan Freeny ILB $1,000,000 $250,000 $262,500 - $25,000 - $200,000 ($250,000) $1,737,500 1.09
BrownMalcolm Brown DT $781,056 $949,223 - - - - - ($4,755,839) $1,730,279 1.08
AllenRyan Allen P $1,000,000 $500,000 $200,000 - - - - ($2,500,000) $1,700,000 1.06
JonesChris Jones DT $1,671,000 - - - - - - - $1,671,000 1.05

 

[BigKen]

I couldn't put this on the original post because it was more than 11,000 characters. Here's the second half of the salary list.


MartinKeshawn Martin WR $850,000 $300,000 $112,500 - $25,000 - - ($400,000) $1,287,500 0.81
BoldenBrandon Bolden RB $760,000 $150,000 $337,500 - $25,000 - - ($150,000) $1,272,500 0.80
CollinsJamie Collins OLB $917,864 $278,818 - - - - - ($278,818) $1,196,682 0.75
EbnerNate Ebner FS $825,000 - $117,180 - $250,000 - - ($250,000) $1,192,180 0.75
DobsonAaron Dobson WR $872,505 $218,340 - - - - - ($218,340) $1,090,845 0.68
LewisDion Lewis RB $800,000 $200,000 $87,500 - - - - ($400,000) $1,087,500 0.68
WaddleLaAdrian Waddle RT $700,000 $125,000 $112,500 - $25,000 - - - $962,500 0.60
GaroppoloJimmy Garoppolo QB $686,718 $213,436 - - $50,000 - - ($426,872) $950,154 0.60
BosticJon Bostic ILB $842,381 - - - $100,000 - - - $942,381 0.59
RichardsJordan Richards SS $603,707 $239,827 - - - - - ($919,181) $843,534 0.53
KitchenIshmaa'ily Kitchen DT $760,000 - - - $25,000 - - - $785,000 0.49
DevelinJames Develin FB $675,000 $50,000 - - $25,000 - - ($50,000) $750,000 0.47
StorkBryan Stork C $600,000 $119,250 - - - - - ($238,500) $719,250 0.45
WhiteJames White RB $600,000 $99,272 - - - - - ($198,544) $699,272 0.44
MartinEric Martin ILB $675,000 - - - $20,000 - - - $695,000 0.44
GrissomGeno Grissom DE $525,000 $145,488 - - $10,000 - - ($436,464) $680,488 0.43
BrownDonald Brown RB $885,000 $80,000 - - - - - ($300,000) $680,000 0.43
HumberRamon Humber OLB $885,000 $25,000 $51,250 - - - - - $676,250 0.42
MelvinRashaan Melvin CB $675,000 - - - - - - - $675,000 0.42
KearseFrank Kearse DE $760,000 $30,000 $5,000 - $30,000 - - ($30,000) $665,000 0.42
FlowersTrey Flowers DE $525,000 $139,733 - - - - - - $664,733 0.42
JacksonTre' Jackson G $525,000 $130,935 - - - - - ($392,805) $655,935 0.41
MasonShaq Mason G $525,000 $110,881 - - - - - - $635,881 0.40
ButlerMalcolm Butler CB $600,000 - - - - - - - $600,000 0

FlemingCameron Fleming G $600,000 - - - - - - - $600,000 0

GaffneyTyler Gaffney RB $600,000 - - - - - - - $600,000 0

VellanoJoe Vellano DT $600,000 - - - - - - - $600,000 0

VereenBrock Vereen FS $600,000 - - - - - - - $600,000 0

CardonaJoe Cardona LS $525,000 $25,000 $37,500 - - - - ($142,149) $587,500 $100,000 0.06
AndrewsDavid Andrews C $525,000 $5,000 - - - - - ($10,000) $530,000 $5,000 0.00
BarkerChris Barker G $525,000 - - - - - - - $525,000 0

ColemanJustin Coleman CB $525,000 - - - - - - - $525,000 0

HarperChris Harper WR $525,000 - - - - - - - $525,000 0

MiltonKeavon Milton T $525,000 - - - - - - - $525,000 0

WilliamsMichael Williams TE $525,000 - - - - - - - $525,000 0
DerbyA.J. Derby TE $450,000 $28,013 - - - - - ($84,040) $478,013 $28,013 0.02
RobertsDarryl Roberts CB $450,000 $13,556 - - - - - ($40,668) $463,556 $13,556 0.01
CarterDeandre Carter WR $450,000 - - - - - - - $450,000 0

IosefaJoey Iosefa FB $450,000 - - - - - - - $450,000 0

ThompsonCedric Thompson FS $450,000 - - - - - - - $450,000 0

VaughtersJames Vaughters LB $450,000 - - - - - - - $450,000 0-

WashingtonNate Washington WR - - - - - - - - - 0

 

[BigKen]

Just remember this.....the above is a list of 70 players that the Patriots have under contract. That has to be cut to53 and only the top 51 count against the cap. The bottom 4 guys on the list account for $2M.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

That right there is why I don't get the whole DA has to go. Makes no sense.

I agree with the fact that Danny is not a "must go", but as the highest paid WR, he is not the highest production WR.

I would really like to see him restructure.

 

[mall3013]

Want him?

Not saying he will fall to the Patriots and even if he does will BB do it

OMG that would be the biggest nightmare for the opposing defenses. Shit, I have thought what if Brax landed in that NE offense. He would be the perfect weapon for Brady. I hope he lands in the AFC unless my Eagles somehow miraculously got him in the 3rd round, which ain't happening. Just another toy for BB and Brady to have.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

The draft could be very interesting for BB and the Pats this year. Pats have 10 picks still remaining. A number are comp picks that they can't trade. They have already addressed a lot of needs thru FA. Will need some cap $ for draft picks. Which leaves BB lots of options, trades, trading picks or a combination of the two?
Is it football season yet?

 

[Southieinnc]

Neither do I. I mean if you have to save money why not cut Cannon. You are going to release a guy who knows the system and TB trusts now, for a OT who can't even get out of a stance!?!?! You can get someone in the draft for 500,000 that can suck like Cannon. Have to keep Dola. He is to important to this offense.

Cannon will perform better with Scar back.
Dola is a keeper - at less money. He is not worth the price tag at current price.
His value will be further depreciated by the fewer runbacks on kicks.....

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Cannon will perform better with Scar back.
Dola is a keeper - at less money. He is not worth the price tag at current price.
His value will be further depreciated by the fewer runbacks on kicks.....

Agreed, he likely gets less touches on offense this year with the addition of Bennett, Hogan and Washington. He's becoming less of a need and more of a nice to have. Renegotiate or say bye bye Danny. Maybe BB can package him with Cannon and get a solid DB or NT?

 

[Southieinnc]

Agreed, he likely gets less touches on offense this year with the addition of Bennett, Hogan and Washington. He's becoming less of a need and more of a nice to have. Renegotiate or say bye bye Danny. Maybe BB can package him with Cannon and get a solid DB or NT?

The O-line went 10-0 before injuries took their toll. Our O-line is not as bad as Pats fans want to make it.
Scar will make a big difference and Cannon will come back to form. Our linemen will be properly coached and playing in position. Rookies will have a year under their belts too. Keep Cannon.