Botchford article: What to do with Bobby Lou?

[dash]

Pretty good read...

Canuck Luongo's will to win in question now more than ever

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Why this is all so important now is because the Canucks have a potential answer. Cory Schneider has the mind and the agility to be great in the NHL. Maybe it's naive to believe he can handle Vancouver any better than Luongo. Maybe it's naive to believe he can become a starter and dominate. Then again, maybe he could be the Canucks Aaron Rodgers if Luongo moves on

i know the most popular guy is always the back up goalie (Bob Essensa anyone?) but i agree with Botch ... Cory is gonna be really really good. He has the mental makeup and a level of athleticism that Luongo doesnt show. Since day one when he was drafted (and so well spoken) you could tell he had it all there mentally.

Ill say it again Luongo for Carey Price and Subban ... win win for everyone involved

 

[quoipourquoi]

Good article. This whole Luongo controversy reminds me of when Patrick Roy lost Game 7 against Detroit in 2002, and people started making a big deal about how he was trending down, despite having shutouts in two other Game 7s in that same postseason. Luongo had a Game 7 that was below Thomas' high standard, but in recent history, he has also held strong against Team USA and Chicago in must-win games. He's no choker, and he made up for any mid-series fumbles that are commonplace for almost any HOF/non-HOF goaltender.

He's still a great goaltender, capable of winning another championship in addition to his Gold medal, but Thomas is peaking in that crazy Ed Belfour, Dominik Hasek, Bernie Parent kinda way right now, and being the second or third best in the league to a guy like that is no crime. No goaltender in the league today could've won on the Vancouver Canucks against Thomas' Bruins.

 

[pixburgher66]

I mean...why not look into a trade? They could get a lot back for him. Not saying they SHOULD trade him, but look into it. Though Montreal would be a bad idea for a headcase...hah. If you could keep him out of the East, I'd be appreciative.

 

[pixburgher66]

Oh, and a comment on the Gold Medal game. He played well, yes. BUT, he will NEVER have that good of a team put in front of him again, but he could play a team of a similar talent to the US team. That's how loaded Canada was. And yeah, he won the Chicago Game 7...but still, in both those games, he almost choked it away by giving up extremely late game tying goals. Luo is one of the most talented goalies in the league...but his head is just not grounded. I just don't have much confidence in him when it counts I guess. JMO though.

 

[dash]

He does has a quite friendly cap hit and there are teams out there that need goaltending. Of course, there is that pesky NTC.

 

[mattola]

He does has a quite friendly cap hit and there are teams out there that need goaltending. Of course, there is that pesky NTC.

then there is his family in Florida and Tampa Bay needing a full time starter unless they go with Mike Smith?

that being said I dont think he goes unless he wants to go. I also dont have the energy in me now to discuss roster or changes. Its too early

 

[jstewismybastardson]

then there is his family in Florida and Tampa Bay needing a full time starter unless they go with Mike Smith?

that being said I dont think he goes unless he wants to go. I also dont have the energy in me now to discuss roster or changes. Its too early

the million dollar question ... I really dont know what the answer is ... his reaction after being told the fans watching the viewing party at Rogers arena game 4 cheered when he was pulled for Schneider seemed kinda "uh-oh"

 

[mattola]

the million dollar question ... I really dont know what the answer is ... his reaction after being told the fans watching the viewing party at Rogers arena game 4 cheered when he was pulled for Schneider seemed kinda "uh-oh"

his next game as well I thought was his statement back and I believed there that he found his inner demon to get through it. but game 6 was utter failure for him. So like you he is a closed book on his thoughts, wants for this team.

Everyone knows he wants to win. you cant deny that. its not money hes got that. he will work hard and perform each season but when playoffs come..... what will happen? 3 years 3 significant meltdowns. not every year was his own fault but certain times and key moments were 100% his fault. the team could not rally. can they ever rally for him? not sure. shit now I am in the conversation

 

[SLY]

TT is a hard shell to crack, but a lot of the blame should go on Luongo. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to walk... Like you said, it isn't about money, and after the emotion he felt when being told about the fans cheering him being pulled, I would walk.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

TT is a hard shell to crack (JUST END IT HERE), but a lot of the blame should go on Luongo. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to walk... Like you said, it isn't about money, and after the emotion he felt when being told about the fans cheering him being pulled, I would walk.

The team scored 8 goals !!!!

Im glad the Sedins came out and said they failed and they take the blame ... stand up guys

 

[mattola]

The team scored 8 goals !!!!

Im glad the Sedins came out and said they failed and they take the blame ... stand up guys

yeah I Agree. he got 3 wins (2 shutouts) in a 7 game series on 8 goals. that is something to look at and go this guy still can do it. that being said the other 4 games were bad. will TT ever do what he did again? I really cant see that. that was one if not the best Stanley Cup Finals performance I have ever seen.

 

[Comeds]

The team scored 8 goals !!!!

Im glad the Sedins came out and said they failed and they take the blame ... stand up guys

I do not blame Luongo. He had some bad games but the fact that they made it to game 7 while only scoring 8 goals is pretty impressive.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

very good read on deadspin too

Why We Shouldn't Blame Roberto "LeBrongo"


All of it should frustrate any hockey fan who saw what actually happened—a gritty underdog's triumph!—in this series. The Luongo-scapegoaters are missing a better story. Boston had no elite scorer all season: Milan Lucic and David Krejci tied for the team lead, with 62 points. I count 18 teams this season with more productive top scorers, and Vancouver had three such guys (Kesler and the Sedins). You'd have to go back to the crusty 2002-03 clutch-and-grab Devils to find a team with such unproductive leading scorers. Both those Devils and these Bruins were built on outstanding goaltending and tough motherfuckers on defense: Johnny Boychuk, Adam McQuaid, and Andrew Ference bruise almost as well as Ken Daneyko, Colin White, and Scott Stevens did, and Zdeno Chara and Dennis Seidenberg have two-way skills that might remind some of Scott Niedermayer and Brian Rafalski.

Watching the Bruins play, especially in the playoffs, you knew that their defensemen would shove anyone in front of the net. No one would own the crease against them like Boston's forwards did against Vancouver in game seven. The Bruins' triumph resulted from a steely team effort.

But we've lost that story because the tourists, dropping in for a hockey come-down after basketball, want to make this about a meltdown, because that's what they know and enjoyed, earlier in the week. LeBrongo, amirite? If they looked harder, though, they would have seen one of the greatest goalies ever fighting in vain to save his underperforming teammates—some of whom quite literally got in his way—from themselves. Does that sound like LeBron to you?

 

[SLY]

Very good read indeed.

 

[The Q stache]

When Lou is on his A game there are few to none who are better, unfortunatly we see his b,c,d,and f games far too much.

 

[mattola]

very good read on deadspin too

Why We Shouldn't Blame Roberto "LeBrongo"


All of it should frustrate any hockey fan who saw what actually happened—a gritty underdog's triumph!—in this series. The Luongo-scapegoaters are missing a better story. Boston had no elite scorer all season: Milan Lucic and David Krejci tied for the team lead, with 62 points. I count 18 teams this season with more productive top scorers, and Vancouver had three such guys (Kesler and the Sedins). You'd have to go back to the crusty 2002-03 clutch-and-grab Devils to find a team with such unproductive leading scorers. Both those Devils and these Bruins were built on outstanding goaltending and tough motherfuckers on defense: Johnny Boychuk, Adam McQuaid, and Andrew Ference bruise almost as well as Ken Daneyko, Colin White, and Scott Stevens did, and Zdeno Chara and Dennis Seidenberg have two-way skills that might remind some of Scott Niedermayer and Brian Rafalski.

Watching the Bruins play, especially in the playoffs, you knew that their defensemen would shove anyone in front of the net. No one would own the crease against them like Boston's forwards did against Vancouver in game seven. The Bruins' triumph resulted from a steely team effort.

But we've lost that story because the tourists, dropping in for a hockey come-down after basketball, want to make this about a meltdown, because that's what they know and enjoyed, earlier in the week. LeBrongo, amirite? If they looked harder, though, they would have seen one of the greatest goalies ever fighting in vain to save his underperforming teammates—some of whom quite literally got in his way—from themselves. Does that sound like LeBron to you?

nice read

 

[puckhead]

When Lou is on his A game there are few to none who are better, unfortunatly we see his b,c,d,and f games far too much.

After being questioned last season, he posted some of the best statistics of his career during the regular season and received a nomination for the Vezina Trophy. During the playoffs, he came up huge in Game 7 of the first round winning the game in overtime and overcoming his playoff demons by defeating his hated rivals. Throughout the postseason, he posted 4 shutouts, including 2 in the final round. He backstopped his team to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final. And won.

Yes, I’m talking about Tim Thomas in that paragraph above, but up until those final two words, I could have been talking about Roberto Luongo

On Roberto Luongo: Everyone but me is completely insane | Vancouver Sun Sports Blogs



you're right though, on those games he wasn't excellent, the drop-off was far, far too much.

 

[Jimmy_the_Tongue]

Bobby Lou's salary hit would be more of a hurdle than the NTC at this point...his relationship and declining reputation with the Canuck faithful could very well have Bobby Lou agreeable to starting fresh somewhere else....stranger things have happened...