boomer esiason

[cincygrad]

Strong.

But the issue is with fans. Ticket prices, salaries, media rights - they're all market value based. People are willing to spend $60 a ticket, so teams will charge $60 a ticket. People drink $9 beers, they'll sell $9 beers. You watch 50 games on tv a year, the network will charge advertisers accordingly. The huge pockets of the owners means they're willing to spend more than other owners on players, driving up the player salary market. It is impossible to cut the money until fans stop attending or watching games - in all markets. Revenue sharing (or luxury tax depending on the sport) has ensured this.

Absolutely.

Why blame the owners? Aren't they just doing business? The owners make a lot and the players make a lot because the fans watch a lot.

Blame the fans for buying jerseys for $100. Blame the guy paying 15K per year for tickets. Blame the fans that pay $9 a beer. If enough folks at your local kroger would pay $12 for a gallon of milk, you can guarantee that you'd be paying $12 for a gallon of milk.

 

[cincygrad]

Not bothering me really. Isn't this our typical offseason? I mean when was it ever any different?

I am used to it, just tired of the amount of money these grown babies make, how much it costs the team, what it does to tickets and tv contracts, which in turn affects product and service prices, which in turn affect all of us peons. Power to the peon I say. Down with the rich, steal it for the poor.

When Chad Johnson has a $10,000 budget a month just to feed himself, it makes me sick. Who the F can eat $120,000 a year in food?

It's not exactly the same. Last year the team told us they kept their own.

Do you see us doing that this season?

 

[CrashDavisSports]

It's not exactly the same. Last year the team told us they kept their own.

Do you see us doing that this season?

For arguments sake, they are saying the same thing this year. They had to let Johnson and Collins go in order to try and give Handy Dandy Andy a 200 million dollar contract, and then AJ Green is supposedly going to make 600 million on his next contract. (please recognize the sarcasm everyone before calling me an idiot) So we need to save everything we can now in order to pay for their salaries.

I mean..I can understand some of their logic. But if you have to spend to 89% at least, and there is a cap of 100%, I don't see how you are going to afford Dalton and Green anyways unless you let some other players walk. If they are not going to sign Dalton this year and save Green and Burfict for next year, then they need to get Burfict done, spend some of that extra money this year, or go get a couple decent free agents to 1 year contracts come June 1st cuts and let them try to improve their value in their 1 years in our system.

 

[flamingrey]

The Bengals carried over some $11-12 million. Their cap space is actually $141 million. They could front load contracts if they really needed to. Or they could've used the franchise tag. End of the day, the Bengals organization is full of liars.

As for salaries/revenue, it doesn't start from the owners/players. It starts from the fans. Your rant is misguided.

 

[futballiscool]

Both.

The birth - which really is the only thing people are "moralizing" about since that is the only thing Esiason could have been referring to given his mention of "C-section" - is a "sacred experience" and nobody should be obligated to miss it because of their job, especially given the 9 months notice.

And those hours and might I even says days after the baby is born are very precious as well, and you're only displaying your ignorance by suggesting it's just another day and someone should be obligated to rush back to work simply for the reason that they get paid a lot. Nobody should be required to. And they aren't. Nonetheless, those people with those jobs where others are relying on them (as ck mentioned: important meeting, football player where each game means a lot, etc) do many of the times make exceptions AFTER the birth and rush back to work. But not because they have to, rather out of the kindness of their hearts that they don't want to let others down.

I never viewed pro sports in this way , but again, I can't wait to read the message board this season knowing how it's viewed by other people

 

[CrashDavisSports]

The Bengals carried over some $11-12 million. Their cap space is actually $141 million. They could front load contracts if they really needed to. Or they could've used the franchise tag. End of the day, the Bengals organization is full of liars.

As for salaries/revenue, it doesn't start from the owners/players. It starts from the fans. Your rant is misguided.

If the fans all boycotted to eliminate higher costs, at this point, the NFL would just go under due to the salaries and current pricing structure of everything. They would probably go bankrupt before being able to successfully get prices back down to early 80's prices.

 

[flamingrey]

I never viewed pro sports in this way , but again, I can't wait to read the message board this season knowing how it's viewed by other people

How else did you view it. Are they slaves to the fans that they are obligated to be at every game regardless of their personal lives?

 

[kramer1]

And I think the overwhelming majority of players would only miss that 1 day. Baseball is an exception as they seemingly play a game every single day.

This guy decided to miss a few days. So the fuck what?

 

[ckhokie]

And I think the overwhelming majority of players would only miss that 1 day. Baseball is an exception as they seemingly play a game every single day.

This guy decided to miss a few days. So the fuck what?

Exactly. Wonder what Boomer has to say about Bryce Harper benching himself and taking a game off 5 days into the season because he wants to get his head right?

 

[futballiscool]

How else did you view it. Are they slaves to the fans that they are obligated to be at every game regardless of their personal lives?

Yes, I was suggesting athletes are slaves but really they're wonderful human beings making great sacrifices out of their kind hearts for humanity's benefit.

This is getting much crazier than anything Boomer said

 

[DanBengalfan]

several teams are now looking into getting this guy a baseball contract so they can keep their players on the field.

 

[flamingrey]

Yes, I was suggesting athletes are slaves but really they're wonderful human beings making great sacrifices out of their kind hearts for humanity's benefit.

This is getting much crazier than anything Boomer said

And that's what you seem to fail to understand. Players are entertainers. That's the extent of it. They owe absolutely nothing to the fans. And they have absolutely no obligation to come back early.

 

[DanBengalfan]

And that's what you seem to fail to understand. Players are entertainers. That's the extent of it. They owe absolutely nothing to the fans. And they have absolutely no obligation to come back early.

It's true these days.

It's a free country.

one day that may change (and in many ways already has) but until that day comes, it's true. They can basically come and go as they pleased until it pisses off their employers to the extent they want them gone.