Bold predictions for 2016

[skinsdad62]

I already made mine.

i know but put a name to it i put names out there

that is what makes it fun

 

[Sharkinva]

i know but put a name to it i put names out there

that is what makes it fun

Well for my surprise starters

Murphy on the D line, and Long starts at Center

For my surprise cuts.... stay tuned.

 

[skinsdad62]

Well for my surprise starters

Murphy on the D line, and Long starts at Center

For my surprise cuts.... stay tuned.

see my PM

 

[gkekoa]

Right b/c of his 2nd round draft pick status. right?

What round was Amerson taken?

 

[dcrising]

Right b/c of his 2nd round draft pick status. right?

like shark said, hood on the decline and murphy seems to play better rushing the QB vs dropping back in coverage. his age and contract work for him as well.

 

[deanpet21]

like shark said, hood on the decline and murphy seems to play better rushing the QB vs dropping back in coverage. his age and contract work for him as well.

True but isn't a 3-4 De supposed to be run defenders. Hyping up a guy who has never played the position before is a bit pre mature. I just don't think he is a lock to make the team.

 

[Sharkinva]

True but isn't a 3-4 De supposed to be run defenders. Hyping up a guy who has never played the position before is a bit pre mature. I just don't think he is a lock to make the team.

Actually Murphy played DE his entire career until we drafted him and converted him to an OLB.

 

[deanpet21]

Actually Murphy played DE his entire career until we drafted him and converted him to an OLB.

He was not a 3-4 DE at Stanford.

 

[Sharkinva]

He was not a 3-4 DE at Stanford.

Nope he was a 4-3 DE. But your statement was he had NEVER played the position of DE. Just reminding you he has. Quinton Dunbar had NEVER played corner at any level, but that worked out for us. Darrell Young came into the league as an ILB, yet became the best FB we have had on this team in a very long time.

 

[deanpet21]

Nope he was a 4-3 DE. But your statement was he had NEVER played the position of DE. Just reminding you he has. Quinton Dunbar had NEVER played corner at any level, but that worked out for us. Darrell Young came into the league as an ILB, yet became the best FB we have had on this team in a very long time.

A lot of his highlights have him as a stand up OLB. Being a 3-4 DE is a different animal. You must be able to stop the run first. The only way my opinion on him would change is if he beats out Paea and Reyes.

 

[Sportster 72]

Nope he was a 4-3 DE. But your statement was he had NEVER played the position of DE. Just reminding you he has. Quinton Dunbar had NEVER played corner at any level, but that worked out for us. Darrell Young came into the league as an ILB, yet became the best FB we have had on this team in a very long time.

Winner, winner and winner Sharkman. 100% right.

 

[deanpet21]

Not a winner. 3-4 De and 4-3 De are two totally different things.

 

[skinsdad62]

Not a winner. 3-4 De and 4-3 De are two totally different things.

so is wr and cb , FB and ilb are also different totally different sides of the ball

 

[deanpet21]

Winner, winner and winner Sharkman. 100% right.

I got this from cbs draft profile.

Critics will be quick to point out that Murphy was surrounded by a great deal of talent at Stanford and that while instinctive and physical, he's not particularly athletic. He starred at Stanford mostly at outside linebacker but surprised with a relatively undefined upper body at the Senior Bowl weigh-ins and was asked to drop down and play defensive end at the Senior Bowl, where his inexperience on the line showed.

 

[Sharkinva]

I got this from cbs draft profile.

Critics will be quick to point out that Murphy was surrounded by a great deal of talent at Stanford and that while instinctive and physical, he's not particularly athletic. He starred at Stanford mostly at outside linebacker but surprised with a relatively undefined upper body at the Senior Bowl weigh-ins and was asked to drop down and play defensive end at the Senior Bowl, where his inexperience on the line showed.

Dean, he played both. Most teams in the NFL who run a 4-3 were looking at him as a DE, and teams like us were looking at him as an OLB. Thing you seem to miss or rather not value because it doesnt fit into what you want is... Murphy is versatile enough to make the switch. If he werent, the team likely would have left him at OLB considering that we will need more than 3 OLB on roster. They didnt make this move to try and "fit him in somewhere" so that they dont have to cut him.

 

[deanpet21]

Dean, he played both. Most teams in the NFL who run a 4-3 were looking at him as a DE, and teams like us were looking at him as an OLB. Thing you seem to miss or rather not value because it doesnt fit into what you want is... Murphy is versatile enough to make the switch. If he werent, the team likely would have left him at OLB considering that we will need more than 3 OLB on roster. They didnt make this move to try and "fit him in somewhere" so that they dont have to cut him.

Coming out of college he was too small to be an every down 4-3 DE. He had to move to OLb. Now we asked him to gain weight b/c he would not be a factor at OLB for us this year.

 

[Sharkinva]

Coming out of college he was too small to be an every down 4-3 DE. He had to move to OLb. Now we asked him to gain weight b/c he would not be a factor at OLB for us this year.

Now you just talking to hear your own voice. Coming out of college he was 6'6 265 lbs

Demarcus Ware one of the BEST DE's in the game over the past few years is 6'4" 258

I could give you a rundown list of guys who do very well as 4-3 DE's and there sizes if you really want to press this angle.

The team asked him to add some weight because we play a 3-4. But do you really think they would rather put him at risk of being cut by asking him to switch positions, rather than have him be a Backup OLB and special teamer??

 

[deanpet21]

Wrong Shark. This is from the cbs draft profile

Trent Murphy, DE
School: Stanford | Conference: PAC12
College Experience: Senior | Hometown: Mesa, AZ
Height/Weight: 6-5 / 250 lbs

 

[deanpet21]

Now you just talking to hear your own voice. Coming out of college he was 6'6 265 lbs

Demarcus Ware one of the BEST DE's in the game over the past few years is 6'4" 258

I could give you a rundown list of guys who do very well as 4-3 DE's and there sizes if you really want to press this angle.

The team asked him to add some weight because we play a 3-4. But do you really think they would rather put him at risk of being cut by asking him to switch positions, rather than have him be a Backup OLB and special teamer??

Trent Murphy, DE
School: Stanford | Conference: PAC12
College Experience: Senior | Hometown: Mesa, AZ
Height/Weight: 6-5 / 250 lbs

 

[deanpet21]

Now you just talking to hear your own voice. Coming out of college he was 6'6 265 lbs

Demarcus Ware one of the BEST DE's in the game over the past few years is 6'4" 258

I could give you a rundown list of guys who do very well as 4-3 DE's and there sizes if you really want to press this angle.

The team asked him to add some weight because we play a 3-4. But do you really think they would rather put him at risk of being cut by asking him to switch positions, rather than have him be a Backup OLB and special teamer??

Yes he was forced to add the weight. It wasn't Murphy choice to change positions. What player wants to change positions after two years in the NFL? Its a tough task for Murphy but to be a part of this defense he had to do it. IMO even if he is successful he is still the 4th DE at best in the rotation.