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oh wait cam newton is out there :D
 

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:shocked: side by side...

 

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we didnt give DH a year to sit and learn . he was starting in his rookie year which he shouldnt have because he wasnt ready . . qbs need this or at least most

we base our qbs choices on what the great ones do and not what MOST do . KC needed time . we developed him and then we part ways with him because he isnt a STAR .

if you are going to have the "star " then you end up not having an elite defense but maybe a middling one . if you have an elite defense you may end up with a game manager qb

we will end up drafting a qb next year . if its round one then a need that could have been solved moves to the stop gap fix . if we are smart we use our cap to resign our own guys
1. Haskin's should not have been a 1st round pick. Draft him 2-4 you can afford to sit him.

2. We really don't know how much time Cousin's would need. I would guess he needed some time.

3. Interesting point I heard the other day that sadly I never considered. If you don't have a top 5 QB, don't pay him. Draft a new one. What does Dallas do? Pay Dak a boat load ... much like Philly did Wentz. The Eagles might have played it right drafting Hurts. He is cheaper, except they paid Wentz a fortune first. That was a mistake. Redskins F'd-up too. They didn't pay Cousin's but they did pay Smith.

4. I am changing my tune. Continue to build an awesome D. Add a WR and a 2-4 round QB. If you don't like that QB draft another one the next year or in two years. Keep the D strong.

:2cents:
 

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1. Haskin's should not have been a 1st round pick. Draft him 2-4 you can afford to sit him.

2. We really don't know how much time Cousin's would need. I would guess he needed some time.

3. Interesting point I heard the other day that sadly I never considered. If you don't have a top 5 QB, don't pay him. Draft a new one. What does Dallas do? Pay Dak a boat load ... much like Philly did Wentz. The Eagles might have played it right drafting Hurts. He is cheaper, except they paid Wentz a fortune first. That was a mistake. Redskins F'd-up too. They didn't pay Cousin's but they did pay Smith.

4. I am changing my tune. Continue to build an awesome D. Add a WR and a 2-4 round QB. If you don't like that QB draft another one the next year or in two years. Keep the D strong.

:2cents:
That’s pretty much what I’ve said with the way these contracts are just draft one every 4 years or so until you find elite then fork out the big contract. Meanwhile use that cap room for the rest of the team.
 

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1. Haskin's should not have been a 1st round pick. Draft him 2-4 you can afford to sit him.

2. We really don't know how much time Cousin's would need. I would guess he needed some time.

3. Interesting point I heard the other day that sadly I never considered. If you don't have a top 5 QB, don't pay him. Draft a new one. What does Dallas do? Pay Dak a boat load ... much like Philly did Wentz. The Eagles might have played it right drafting Hurts. He is cheaper, except they paid Wentz a fortune first. That was a mistake. Redskins F'd-up too. They didn't pay Cousin's but they did pay Smith.

4. I am changing my tune. Continue to build an awesome D. Add a WR and a 2-4 round QB. If you don't like that QB draft another one the next year or in two years. Keep the D strong.

:2cents:
1) agree
2) at least till yr 2
3) agree
4) I have said this since the RG 3 trade . What if we took tanehill and kept the picks ? Shark and I advocated for that
 

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we didnt give DH a year to sit and learn . he was starting in his rookie year which he shouldnt have because he wasnt ready . . qbs need this or at least most

we base our qbs choices on what the great ones do and not what MOST do . KC needed time . we developed him and then we part ways with him because he isnt a STAR .

if you are going to have the "star " then you end up not having an elite defense but maybe a middling one . if you have an elite defense you may end up with a game manager qb

we will end up drafting a qb next year . if its round one then a need that could have been solved moves to the stop gap fix . if we are smart we use our cap to resign our own guys
With all due respect, Haskins was a first round pick. He can’t have the luxury of sitting and learning, not in today’s NFL. Sportster articulated perfectly why. There are too many rookie and 2nd year QBs playing , some at a high level, to show it can happen. We need to stop making excuses for Haskins. He wasn’t ready. He isn’t ready. But most frustrating is that there really hasn’t been much improvement from him in his time here. So it’s fair to question if he will ever live up to expectations.
 

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With all due respect, Haskins was a first round pick. He can’t have the luxury of sitting and learning, not in today’s NFL. Sportster articulated perfectly why. There are too many rookie and 2nd year QBs playing , some at a high level, to show it can happen. We need to stop making excuses for Haskins. He wasn’t ready. He isn’t ready. But most frustrating is that there really hasn’t been much improvement from him in his time here. So it’s fair to question if he will ever live up to expectations.
Tell it to the chiefs, Mahomes sat down till the last game of his rookie yr
 

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Tell it to the chiefs, Mahomes sat down till the last game of his rookie yr
True. But I’d bet if he started his first game, he’d still be the top QB in the league.

it would be great if we could draft a qb in the 1st round and let him sit and learn. But we can’t. We need our first round picks contributing from the outset.
 

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Tell it to the chiefs, Mahomes sat down till the last game of his rookie yr
Mahome's is going to most likely going to leave the game as one of the all time greatest. I do not think DH will be all that close to him. Mahome's grew up with a professional athlete as a dad. He soaked up all that Smith and Reid gave him in that year. Not sure that Haskin's would be great under Reid but he would be better ... or gone. IMO Reid is the best QB coach in the NFL.
 

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KPL with moves...

 

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Roullier has been balling!

 

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LOL!

 

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Shouldn’t surprise us...but it’s been so long that things like this take awhile to sink in...

 

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Still wanna name but this is fire!

 
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