Game Thread: Bengals vs. Buccaneers

[Cincyfan78]

You want to see bad coaching? How do you not challenge that catch if you're Livie Smith?

Because his knee was down inbounds.

 

[bengaldoug]

Now we need a first down and we win.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Big 3rd and 11.....

 

[Cincyfan78]

3rd and 11...they had 1 WR going out...Sanu.

That's some stupid shit.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Man, Geno has just been a force today.

 

[bengaldoug]

I smell a loss at the gun.

 

[bphillips4gg]

Wrong.

After the catch, the Bengals were at the 36 yardline. That's a 52 yarder for Nugent, and they would have at least had a chance (as I said) for a FG.

Should they have called a timeout? Not probably. YES. They had 3, and they ran 10 seconds off the clock, and it was clear as day that the offense was not on the same page. Why rush in that situation with 3 timeouts. Call the TO, set up a play (or two) and get on the same page. It's the same poor clock management that has plagued this team for over a decade now.

Wrong on the on-side kick. It was the wrong call. Even if they recovred it, it was the wrong call. The end result does not dictate whether a play is "good" or "bad". The situation does. That was not a good situation for that. The defense had been holding them down. You kick that ball off and force that offense, now down, to drive the length of the field. I could understand if the defense had been struggling and giving up long drives and/or points, but that was not the case.

The onside kick is the wrong decision because it didn't work because it was poorly executed. If they saw something during their film study that led them to believe they could pull it off, then it's a good idea. I don't know if they did or not, but neither do you. If Nugent actually kicks that ball to where half of the coverage team isn't standing around waiting for it to go ten yards, then they might have recovered..


I have plenty more to add. I'm just not the kind of person that is stupid enough to think that you can blame all of your problems on a coach when players are playing like shit. Andy is playing like shit. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't have taken a timeout. I'm saying that your QB can't make the decision he did and that is entirely on him.

Also, people using the $105M contract as part of an argument have nothing else to add. THat money is paper money. He makes something like 25M over the next 3 years, and the rest is incentives, includeing, Conference Championship, Super Bowl appearance, and a S.B. win. You think he's getting those?

 

[bengaldoug]

Yep....here it comes.....

 

[Cincyfan78]

The onside kick is the wrong decision because it didn't work because it was poorly executed. If they saw something during their film study that led them to believe they could pull it off, then it's a good idea. I don't know if they did or not, but neither do you. If Nugent actually kicks that ball to where half of the coverage team isn't standing around waiting for it to go ten yards, then they might have recovered..


I have plenty more to add. I'm just not the kind of person that is stupid enough to think that you can blame all of your problems on a coach when players are playing like shit. Andy is playing like shit. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't have taken a timeout. I'm saying that your QB can't make the decision he did and that is entirely on him.

Not once have I placed the all the blame on the coaches. You can't find a single post. Yes, Dalton could have called the TO, but so could have the coaches, and you don't want to wast time, and with 3 TO's...it was the right call to make as a coach.

It was the wrong call because the situation was not right. Period. The end result of a call does not determin if the call made was the right call. You can't argue this. To do so is folly.

 

[bphillips4gg]

That's offensive pi.

 

[JBUCK66]

with Marvin you have to consider his body of work

 

[Cincyfan78]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Marvin throws a challenge flag under 2:00....

Priceless.

 

[Cincyfan78]

And yet somehow....they are going to review this, and they had 12 on the field.

What

The

Heck

 

[bphillips4gg]

with Marvin you have to consider his body of work

As long as you're willing to give him credit for what he just did. Tell me that wasn't fucking huge.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Ok, so...they changed the rule this year.

They toss the flag, you lose a TO, but the refs will review the play...

WOW

 

[Cincyfan78]

That was a very, very, heads up play...

I did not know they changed that rule.....

WOW!

 

[bphillips4gg]

Because his knee was down inbounds.

It was a close play on the sideline when they needed to use a timeout and they have both challenges. Is he saving them in case they have two plays in the next 40 seconds?

 

[Cincyfan78]

It was a close play on the sideline when they needed to use a timeout and they have both challenges. Is he saving them in case they have two plays in the next 40 seconds?

Or did someone tell him, he was inbounds?

 

[Cincyfan78]

Wow.

You can't say enough about the defense the past 3 weeks.

And, Marvin...great job at the end of the game. Redeemed. For this week.

 

[bphillips4gg]

Or did someone tell him, he was inbounds?

The point is what has he got to lose by challenging? You're losing the timeout either way.