Ben Simmons formally demands trade

[Picklerick 2.0]

Initial reports were he was seeing someone through the resources the players union has

If he’s lying about it, he deserves the suspension

Rodgers is shoving crystals up Simmons's ass as we speak.

 

[fightinfunbags]

His value would have been based a lot more on the first few hundred games he had played than the last few in the playoffs. The “value drop” from the playoffs was greatly exaggerated.

NOW his value has dropped a ton because of the drama and all the question marks surrounding him. His value would have been like 3 times higher had Philly just quietly shopped him in the off season.

How do you do that when his camp leaked that he was demanding a trade a week after the playoff exit?

 

[tlance]

How do you do that when his camp leaked that he was demanding a trade a week after the playoff exit?

Um.

Do you think he would have been demanding a trade had he not been publicly blasted by Embiid and Doc?

That was the reason he demanded the trade.

 

[The Q]

This is way over the top.

Rivers and Embiid made a couple of minor comments right after a series where Simmons was historically terrible. Simmons chose to be offended rather than take responsibility.

Coaches talk shit about players all the time. Just last week Nick Nurse publicly called out several players on the Raptors for shit play. It happens.

Simmons ego and pride are what caused this situation to blow up. It's why he's in his 5th year and hasn't improved his offensive game one iota.

There is a big difference between saying we need to play better, and we can’t win a title with this guy starting.

Nurse is the former

Doc was the latter

 

[fightinfunbags]

Um.

Do you think he would have been demanding a trade had he not been publicly blasted by Embiid and Doc?

That was the reason he demanded the trade.

Yes I do believe he would have sought a trade. Ben Simmons doesn’t fit with Joel Embiid and it’s been to the detriment of Ben Simmons.

 

[The Q]

How do you do that when his camp leaked that he was demanding a trade a week after the playoff exit?

The first mention was like a week before the draft. And that was mostly becuase of the golden state nonsense by morey

 

[tlance]

Yes I do believe he would have sought a trade. Ben Simmons doesn’t fit with Joel Embiid and it’s been to the detriment of Ben Simmons.

I guess it is possible,

But this isn’t a chicken or egg scenario.

Simmons got thrown under the bus, then he asked to be traded. Not a coincidence.

Do you honestly think the relationship between Simmons and the team would be where it is today without those comments?

 

[fightinfunbags]

I guess it is possible,

But this isn’t a chicken or egg scenario.

Simmons got thrown under the bus, then he asked to be traded. Not a coincidence.

Do you honestly think the relationship between Simmons and the team would be where it is today without those comments?

I think it gives people who are programmed to say things like “it takes two to tango” the thing they’re searching for in trying to diminish the fact that Ben Simmons is ultimately responsible for all of this and more.

 

[tlance]

I think it gives people who are programmed to say things like “it takes two to tango” the thing they’re searching for in trying to diminish the fact that Ben Simmons is ultimately responsible for all of this and more.

Keep blaming him then if you want.

But that is exactly what got Philly where they are today and why they won’t win a title with Joel Embiid.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Keep blaming him then if you want.

But that is exactly what got Philly where they are today and why they won’t win a title with Joel Embiid.

They would already have a title if they told Simmons to shut the fuck up when he cried in 2019 about Brett Brown putting Jimmy Butler on the ball. This organization has coddled Ben Simmons. And then they finally stopped coddling Ben Simmons and now that’s apparently the Sixers fault.

 

[tlance]

They would already have a title if they told Simmons to shut the fuck up when he cried in 2019 about Brett Brown putting Jimmy Butler on the ball. This organization has coddled Ben Simmons. And then they finally stopped coddling Ben Simmons and now that’s apparently the Sixers fault.

That isn’t what I am saying.

You do realize that they could have demanded more from him without doing it in public right?

And if he doesn’t live up to his end trade him!

But without emasculating him first.

 

[fightinfunbags]

That isn’t what I am saying.

You do realize that they could have demanded more from him without doing it in public right?

And if he doesn’t live up to his end trade him!

But without emasculating him first.

The Sixers don’t make him pass up a dunk when he’s threatened by 5’11 Trae Young. That’s what emasculated him. And “doing it in public” is what Ben Simmons has done all summer…unless you’re talking about candid remarks immediately after an excruciating series loss to end their promising season that fell short.

 

[tlance]

The Sixers don’t make him pass up a dunk when he’s threatened by 5’11 Trae Young. That’s what emasculated him. And “doing it in public” is what Ben Simmons has done all summer…unless you’re talking about candid remarks immediately after an excruciating series loss to end their promising season that fell short.

Again, after Doc and Embiid.

They could have stayed quiet and traded him for something like McCollum and a pick.

That ship sailed long ago because they went public first and Ben responded by torching his trade value.

 

[thunderc]

I guess it is possible,

But this isn’t a chicken or egg scenario.

Simmons got thrown under the bus, then he asked to be traded. Not a coincidence.

Do you honestly think the relationship between Simmons and the team would be where it is today without those comments?

I don’t think it would be where it is today if he would dunk a damn basketball. That was the end.

 

[tlance]

I don’t think it would be where it is today if he would dunk a damn basketball. That was the end.

1 play does not crater a players’ trade value.

Plays like it have happened before and will happen again.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Again, after Doc and Embiid.

They could have stayed quiet and traded him for something like McCollum and a pick.

That ship sailed long ago because they went public first and Ben responded by torching his trade value.

Gotcha. Gotta be perfect. Swallowing the tongue for 5 years isn’t enough if you slip up one time.

 

[fightinfunbags]

1 play does not crater a players’ trade value.

Plays like it have happened before and will happen again.

He has a 5 year track record of disappearing in the playoffs and in passing up shots. In Games 4-7 of that series he didn’t take a shot in 4 fourth quarters.

 

[thunderc]

1 play does not crater a players’ trade value.

Plays like it have happened before and will happen again.

Thst play was the last straw for people that had seen no telling what all over the last few years. I just don’t believe that basketball people were influenced in any way by anything that was said, Rivers and Embiid just couldn’t stay quiet any longer and they were echoing what anyone that knows badketball was seeing. That’s my opinion.

 

[The Q]

Thst play was the last straw for people that had seen no telling what all over the last few years. I just don’t believe that basketball people were influenced in any way by anything that was said, Rivers and Embiid just couldn’t stay quiet any longer and they were echoing what anyone that knows badketball was seeing. That’s my opinion.

Then trade him for mccollum and move on

 

[tlance]

Thst play was the last straw for people that had seen no telling what all over the last few years. I just don’t believe that basketball people were influenced in any way by anything that was said, Rivers and Embiid just couldn’t stay quiet any longer and they were echoing what anyone that knows badketball was seeing. That’s my opinion.

Yeah, I get why they said what they said.

But those statements are why we are where we are.

Be professional, keep it in house and Ben is somebody else’s problem today while Philly has another quality piece or 2 to help them contend.

It is the trade demand, the mental health questions and Simmons’ refusal to participate with the 6ers that has completely eroded his trade value.

His skill set would have had many suitors despite the playoff struggles without all this.