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Ben Simmons formally demands trade

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There’s no point for Simmons to return if the sixers don’t give the money back anyway.

That’s why I said a Few days ago tht reconciliation is over
 

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There’s no point for Simmons to return if the sixers don’t give the money back anyway.

That’s why I said a Few days ago tht reconciliation is over

The Sixers will give the money to him if he shows up.
 

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So far he has only lost a little money. They put an $8 million chunk of his salary in an escrow account, and are apparently deducting the fines every day he doesn't show up. When he starts missing regular season games, it will be a big bite, and eventually it would be all of it. But if he showed up, it would not.
 

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Yeah. The nightmare scenario for the Sixers is a 3-7 start.

Agreed. I don't see this happening because they are still a pretty talented team, but if they start out losing a lot of games, that would possibly force their hand. So long as they are a playoff team though--no pressure IMO, even if they are a low seed.
 

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This 43 page thread has become a rite of passage for me as I work through my Sixers grief. I just looked back the other day at all my posts and it closely resembles this. FML! It seems like just yesterday I was saying, Embiid, Simmons, monster cap room and now the number one overall pick!!! And now look at me…

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And honestly, I truly think this is a big part of it. He chose to be offended rather than be accountable
Bingo, huge problem with society in general .
 

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Embiid and Simmons weren't an ideal fit. But, imo, a big part of the problem was in the offense. Embiid isn't a great 3 point shooter, but he's good enough that they could run some sets with him moving to the 3 point line so Simmons could drive and finish or dish. They could also have been a pretty devastating pick and roll/pick and pop duo.

Magic and Kareem figured it out and Kareem was rarely more that 5-8 feet from the basket.

Different era when everyone played inside out.
 

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Ben for Jaylen SU? What say you

Ignoring salary for a sec

The point is to add a core player. Not swap them out.

The same problem Philly is having
 

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The point is to add a core player. Not swap them out.

The same problem Philly is having

Don't disagree but I don't know what Boston could deal to make this work
 

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Don't disagree but I don't know what Boston could deal to make this work

I’d have to the full math

But

Hernangomez
Williams (3 team traded for a first, like Jarrett Allen)
(Also could be Richardson since Philly needs a wing, but less likely)
Pritchard (young pg who can fit off the ball as well)
Nesmith
Romeo
3-4 firsts

Schroeder would be another guy who could go since he’s expiring and all the Philly fans here want another pg in a deal.

Philly would have all the first round picks it would need to land a dame or beal.

Plus some young guys with potential

I really like Nesmith but for Simmons I’d make it work
 

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I’d have to the full math

But

Hernangomez
Williams (3 team traded for a first, like Jarrett Allen)
(Also could be Richardson since Philly needs a wing, but less likely)
Pritchard (young pg who can fit off the ball as well)
Nesmith
Romeo
3-4 firsts

Schroeder would be another guy who could go since he’s expiring and all the Philly fans here want another pg in a deal.

Philly would have all the first round picks it would need to land a dame or beal.

Plus some young guys with potential

I really like Nesmith but for Simmons I’d make it work
You just cleaned out the poop on your roster for Simmons haha.
 

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You just cleaned out the poop on your roster for Simmons haha.
Hernangomez is criminally underrated. He could be just like LeBron, only better... but no one has given him a real chance to flourish because of anti-Spain prejudice.
 

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Hernangomez is criminally underrated. He could be just like LeBron, only better... but no one has given him a real chance to flourish because of anti-Spain prejudice.
What value does he have on a team with Joel Embiid with Drummond backing him up? Celtics shouldn’t even pick up the phone unless Jaylon Brown is involved. Shit, in this proposed deal they don’t even get Marcus Smart.
 

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What value does he have on a team with Joel Embiid with Drummond backing him up? Celtics shouldn’t even pick up the phone unless Jaylon Brown is involved. Shit, in this proposed deal they don’t even get Marcus Smart.
Yeah... I think we can all agree that (in the real world) no deal is going down between the Sixers and the Celtics... there's simply no even ground to be found between the two.
 

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You just cleaned out the poop on your roster for Simmons haha.

It’s basically 5 picks and some youngsters, plus salary filler.

They’re unlikely to have the highest off though
 

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It’s basically 5 picks and some youngsters, plus salary filler.

They’re unlikely to have the highest off though
It’s basically a joke but I don’t blame you. Fans always want a piece in a trade and they never want to give up fair value. They also often over value their young pieces.
 

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It’s basically a joke but I don’t blame you. Fans always want a piece in a trade and they never want to give up fair value. They also often over value their young pieces.

I gave up all their young pieces lol

Like the love thing, you are forgetting that the salary cap….exists
 
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