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Ben Simmons formally demands trade

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Agreed! Shit, I'm trying to figure out what value they have for Simmons (defensive identity?). It seems like their offense playing through Jokic is one of the best in the league. Not sure how Simmons fits in all that. But to your point, I only have the balls to hope for one, not both of those guys. They immediately go to numbers 2 and 3 on my list under McCollum for non-Beal or Dame guys in a Simmons trade. Who am I kidding? Sixers will get Kevin Love and picks and buy him out.

I don't know how Gordon simmons and jokic all work together. Especially without Murray.
 

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Agreed! Shit, I'm trying to figure out what value they have for Simmons (defensive identity?). It seems like their offense playing through Jokic is one of the best in the league. Not sure how Simmons fits in all that. But to your point, I only have the balls to hope for one, not both of those guys. They immediately go to numbers 2 and 3 on my list under McCollum for non-Beal or Dame guys in a Simmons trade. Who am I kidding? Sixers will get Kevin Love and picks and buy him out.

He's more of a PG than Murray and maybe they think they will get him to expand his game
 

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I would be mad, but that is less likely than unvaccinated Carson Wentz starting 17 games in a pandemic and leading his team to the Super Bowl.
 

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How mad will Sixers fans be if the first year after trading Simmons, he hits 100+ 3's on 37% shooting
I think there's a good chance that happens. He needs to be knocked down. This ground swell of criticism coming his way is a blessing in disguise. He needs drastic measures to understand that he's wasting his talents being complacent. If he gets that attitude adjustment he has the stuff to be a top 5 player.
 

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I think there's a good chance that happens. He needs to be knocked down. This ground swell of criticism coming his way is a blessing in disguise. He needs drastic measures to understand that he's wasting his talents being complacent. If he gets that attitude adjustment he has the stuff to be a top 5 player.

While I don't think he will ever be a shooter, this may be the motivation he needs to become a 75% FT shooter.
 

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I think there's a good chance that happens. He needs to be knocked down. This ground swell of criticism coming his way is a blessing in disguise. He needs drastic measures to understand that he's wasting his talents being complacent. If he gets that attitude adjustment he has the stuff to be a top 5 player.
No, he will not ever be a top 5 player. He can be better, but he may be damaged beyond repair at this point.
 

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If the Sixers come out of this with Murray or Michael Porter Jr, I would be ecstatic.
No way Murray would be in that trade. Idk why they would trade MPJ either. Gordon, Morris and 1st’s? Not sure that is anything close to what the Sixers want. Seems like no in between for Denver, it would be stupid to give up Murray for Simmons
 

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No way Murray would be in that trade. Idk why they would trade MPJ either. Gordon, Morris and 1st’s? Not sure that is anything close to what the Sixers want. Seems like no in between for Denver, it would be stupid to give up Murray for Simmons

I think denever can’t make a deal now without Murray in it.

Not enough salary available until the trade deadline
 

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I think there's a good chance that happens. He needs to be knocked down. This ground swell of criticism coming his way is a blessing in disguise. He needs drastic measures to understand that he's wasting his talents being complacent. If he gets that attitude adjustment he has the stuff to be a top 5 player.

That would drive me fucking nuts if I was a Sixers fan. You guys have Lebron 2.0, if he would work on his game.

And its not like Lebron is exactly Steph Curry from 3 or Steve Nash from the free throw line. But he shoots both well enough that he cant be left alone on 3s or be the guy you look to intentionally foul.
 

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That would drive me fucking nuts if I was a Sixers fan. You guys have Lebron 2.0, if he would work on his game.

And its not like Lebron is exactly Steph Curry from 3 or Steve Nash from the free throw line. But he shoots both well enough that he cant be left alone on 3s or be the guy you look to intentionally foul.
It will be frustrating but at the same time, I’ll take solace in the fact that he doesn’t have the stuff to be a champion. That’s a big aspect of who LeBron is. So while he has the physical potential to be LeBron 2.0 he has the intestinal fortitude of a pussy and will never be that guy.
 

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I’m hearing they likely get a deal done soon like soon as in a week or so.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the Cavs acquired him Sexton, Okoro, multiple 1st’s and possibly even KLove. Not really sure how I feel about it if it goes down
 

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I’m hearing they likely get a deal done soon like soon as in a week or so.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the Cavs acquired him Sexton, Okoro, multiple 1st’s and possibly even KLove. Not really sure how I feel about it if it goes down

Dance.

A lot.

Guys like Simmons don’t come to CLE very often
 

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Dance.

A lot.

Guys like Simmons don’t come to CLE very often
And apparently, they get to take out the trash on Love's horrid deal. FML if Kevin Love is a Sixer.
 

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It’s either Love, Mark or Rubio to match salaries.
If the sixers would excuse Simmons until mark is tradeable… that is the cleanest course of action
 

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Dance.

A lot.

Guys like Simmons don’t come to CLE very often
True and like someone mentioned if he does actually work on his jumpshot the sky is the limit…either way they would gain defense but no shooting. Garland, Simmons and Mobley could be a nice fit in the future so I wouldn’t complain but it still depends on what they give up. Other teams can offer more but are they willing
 

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True and like someone mentioned if he does actually work on his jumpshot the sky is the limit…either way they would gain defense but no shooting. Garland, Simmons and Mobley could be a nice fit in the future so I wouldn’t complain but it still depends on what they give up. Other teams can offer more but are they willing

Some sharks may not and start holding their chips for KAT
 

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Mark can’t be traded for like 30 days or something
3-4 weeks into the season I believe so really if they want this deal done Love or Rubio
 
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