Beckham vs Norman

[Bmurph]

Watched every bit of it

Were you drinking?

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Were you drinking?

No, I saw what I saw . I've said it over and over OB was by far the worst one, but he had help. I do not condone what he did, but if you watch the play are you 100 percent sure he meant to hit him with the helmet in the head. I'm not. Watch his arms

 

[UK Cowboy]

No, I saw what I saw . I've said it over and over OB was by far the worst one, but he had help. I do not condone what he did, but if you watch the play are you 100 percent sure he meant to hit him with the helmet in the head. I'm not. Watch his arms

What's Norman supposed to do when OB is basically trying to end his season? OB better learn what comes around goes around. Yesterday it was Norman's jaw, next time it might be OB's knee

 

[Bmurph]

No, I saw what I saw . I've said it over and over OB was by far the worst one, but he had help. I do not condone what he did, but if you watch the play are you 100 percent sure he meant to hit him with the helmet in the head. I'm not. Watch his arms

It was a fair question, you seem to be the only person on the planet justifying it. Hell I think Odell may have even have admitted to the intent? Not sure if I read that or not

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

What's Norman supposed to do when OB is basically trying to end his season? OB better learn what comes around goes around. Yesterday it was Norman's jaw, next time it might be OB's knee

End his season? Come on. If that was the case he would have went for the knees on the same play

 

[UK Cowboy]

End his season? Come on. If that was the case he would have went for the knees on the same play

I've seen guys get their jaw broken without hitting a knee, and I've seen guys get their jaw broken on shots like that. If it had been a clean hit, no one would say anything. It was INTENTIONAL. If that were Suh hitting Romo in game one next year and ending his season, you'd shit yourself trying to get him suspended

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

What's the difference?

 

[UK Cowboy]

What's the difference?

Are you serious Dude? Come on...

 

[Ekspozed]

LOL whats the difference? OBJ trying to make a catch and a safety lowering his shoulder compared to OBJ targeting a player who wasnt in the play, headhunting.

 

[Ekspozed]

Giants wideout Odell Beckham suspended one game
Guess they figured diving at someones face, leading with your head, while they're not apart of the play is no bueno.

 

[Bmurph]

BREAKING NEWS

Giants receiver Odell Beckham Jr. is suspended for 1 game for his actions vs. Carolina on Sunday.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Tom Coughlin almost benched Odell Beckham Jr., but here's why he didn't
By John Breech | CBSSports.com

December 21, 2015 12:08 pm ET

During the second half of the Panthers' 38-35 win over the New York Giants on Sunday, things got pretty heated between Odell Beckham Jr. and Panthers cornerback Josh Norman.







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Beckham was flagged three times in the game for unnecessary roughness with two of those penalties coming in the third quarter. It wasn't just Beckham though. Norman also got flagged once for unnecessary roughness.

Penalties are one thing, but trying to take out a guy is another thing and that's what Beckham appeared to do in the third quarter when he hit Norman with a direct helmet-to-helmet shot, which you can see below.

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Beckham is facing a possible suspension for the hit and probably should've been ejected from the game, but he wasn't.

Although Beckham didn't get ejected, someone could have pulled him out of the game and that someone is Giants coach Tom Coughlin.

Beckham was clearly out of control, so why didn't Coughlin yank him?

Coughlin explained his thought process after the loss.



Q: Was there any consideration or any reason, including his own safety, to take [Beckham] out?

TOM COUGHLIN: It was a consideration. In fact, it was a strong consideration. But it didn't happen.

Q: Why not?

TC: Because I didn't take him out.

Q: What was your reasoning for it?

TC: Because I wanted him to play the game. He had to learn. He's got to learn at some point how to deal with some things on the field.

Q: You're willing to deal with the penalties?

TC: No, I'm not willing to deal with the penalties. I'm not willing to deal with anything. I want him out there to win the football game. Again, he's a player on our team and he made some mistakes today, but I'm hoping he will recognize that and get over it.

Q: This late in the season with the playoffs on the line, how crushing is it to lose?

TC: It's always a crush to lose. It's difficult to lose in those circumstances right there. But we'll find a way to keep fighting, that's what we'll do.



On one hand, you have Coughlin the teacher, who wants Beckham to learn his lesson, but then you have Coughlin the NFL coach, who kept Beckham out there because Coughlin wanted to "win the football game."

Coughlin and the Giants are in the middle of a heated division race, so it's no shock that Coughlin refused to pull his best offensive player during a huge game.

Beckham's antics could end up costing the Giants, though, if he's suspended for either of New York's final two games (at Minnesota, vs. Philadelphia).

A Big Piece missing here is that Coughlin is most likely to lose his job without a postseason this year

No one here was surprised that Tom didnt take him out of the game

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Part of winning the battle is catching the balls. Dropped or not, he had a below average(to his standards) game.

He should and will be fined. Doubt he gets suspended.

To defend his actions saying it happens every week in pro football is just stupid. In which other games do you see players run full speed at a targeted player and head hunt, after the play?

How do you know it won't happen again or it was a spur of the moment thing? How do you justify any of your comments ROMO? Oh, because he is talented...

Some of you may remember Jeremy Shockey as a Giant, pulling "some" of the antics Odell now pulls.......Though not nearly the talent, Shockey was put in his place pretty quickly by the veteran leadership of the Giants...Thats something that is sorely lacking in this Giants lockeroom, and it has showed all season, culminating in yesterdays' disaster......A Strahan, Tuck, etc....Would have been ripping into Beckhman non-publicly for yesterdays' performance.....I just dont see the guy they have now that will do that

 

[Bmurph]

Now this is fucked up like a football bat!

Did Josh Norman threaten Odell Beckham with a baseball bat?
By John Breech | CBSSports.com

December 21, 2015 3:31 pm ET

The ugly second half battle between Odell Beckham Jr. and Panthers cornerback Josh Norman might have actually started because of something that happened before the game.

CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora has reported that the Giants believe Beckham was physically threatened by the Panthers before the two team's kicked off on Sunday, with a baseball bat pointed in his direction. The Giants also believe that a group of Panthers players used homophobic slurs against Beckham.

The Panthers are denying that either thing happened.









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"Absolutely nothing happened on the sideline. I was there. No one was threatened," Panthers spokesman Steven Drummond said in a statement, adding that Norman was stretching most of the time and was not involved with any incidents regarding the bat and that only a practice squad player exchanged words with Beckham and it was not derogatory. "No one was threatened with a bat. It didn't happen. It's a diversionary tactic and a good one at that."

According to the Giants, the pregame incident is what caused Beckham's unusual emotional state during the game. La Canfora reports the Giants are not saying that necessarily Norman in particular was making any particular statement but that he was among a group of Panthers involved in activity that went well beyond the norm in regards to Beckham. The team is convinced this took place and that it impacted Beckham's mindset in the game.

The NFL has yet to make any comments on the matter.

Hall of Fame cornerback Deion Sanders took La Canfora's report one step further and said that it was definitely Norman who threatened Beckham, and that the Panthers corner threatened to "end his career."

According to ESPN.com, that baseball bat was on the field thanks to a Panthers official, who brought it out before the game. At some point, Norman got a hold of the bat and started swinging it, a move that Beckham felt threatened by.

The tension from the pregame incident blew up in the third quarter when Beckham was flagged three times for unnecessary roughness. One of those penalties came after Beckham hit Norman with a direct helmet-to-helmet shot.

Norman also got flagged once for unnecessary roughness during the third quarter spat.

As for the bat, the Panthers claim there's an explanation for it.

Cornerback Bene Benwikere claims that no one was threatening Beckham and that the team has used the bat all season as a motivational object.

Benwikere, who's out for the season with a broken leg, also pointed out that several other teams use it. A Panthers source told ProFootballTalk that the Giants are only bringing up the bat "to distract from Beckham's antics."

It's hard to separate fact from fiction here, but two things are definitely true: The Panthers did bring a bat on the field and someone did point that bat at the Giants as they came out on the field (photo via Giants' Instagram).


Also, Norman definitely had possession of the bat at some point, however, there's no video evidence yet that shows him pointing it or swinging it in Beckham's direction (photo via Jay Glazer Instagram).


Beckham is facing the prospect of a one-game suspension for his antics and it's possible the Giants are using the bat as way to argue that Beckham shouldn't be suspended at all.

 

[Bmurph]

A Big Piece missing here is that Coughlin is most likely to lose his job without a postseason this year

No one here was surprised that Tom didnt take him out of the game

I posted yesterday that I was surprised not to see Tom talking to him on the sidelines. The WR coach did but I never saw TC address him. I wasn't the least bit surprised, he dint take him out of the game, with the Giants trying to make the playoffs and Coughlin trying to get a W

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I posted yesterday that I was surprised not to see Tom talking to him on the sidelines. The WR coach did but I never saw TC address him. I wasn't the least bit surprised, he dint take him out of the game, with the Giants trying to make the playoffs and Coughlin trying to get a W

Yes, thats been a talking point here today

Wasnt a good look for Tom that the WR coach was shown talking to him, but not the HC

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Are you serious Dude? Come on...

Helmet to helmet launch.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

LOL whats the difference? OBJ trying to make a catch and a safety lowering his shoulder compared to OBJ targeting a player who wasnt in the play, headhunting.

Jenkins wasn't headhunting????

 

[es4m11]

Now this is fucked up like a football bat!

Did Josh Norman threaten Odell Beckham with a baseball bat?
By John Breech | CBSSports.com

December 21, 2015 3:31 pm ET

The ugly second half battle between Odell Beckham Jr. and Panthers cornerback Josh Norman might have actually started because of something that happened before the game.

CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora has reported that the Giants believe Beckham was physically threatened by the Panthers before the two team's kicked off on Sunday, with a baseball bat pointed in his direction. The Giants also believe that a group of Panthers players used homophobic slurs against Beckham.

The Panthers are denying that either thing happened.









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"Absolutely nothing happened on the sideline. I was there. No one was threatened," Panthers spokesman Steven Drummond said in a statement, adding that Norman was stretching most of the time and was not involved with any incidents regarding the bat and that only a practice squad player exchanged words with Beckham and it was not derogatory. "No one was threatened with a bat. It didn't happen. It's a diversionary tactic and a good one at that."

According to the Giants, the pregame incident is what caused Beckham's unusual emotional state during the game. La Canfora reports the Giants are not saying that necessarily Norman in particular was making any particular statement but that he was among a group of Panthers involved in activity that went well beyond the norm in regards to Beckham. The team is convinced this took place and that it impacted Beckham's mindset in the game.

The NFL has yet to make any comments on the matter.

Hall of Fame cornerback Deion Sanders took La Canfora's report one step further and said that it was definitely Norman who threatened Beckham, and that the Panthers corner threatened to "end his career."

According to ESPN.com, that baseball bat was on the field thanks to a Panthers official, who brought it out before the game. At some point, Norman got a hold of the bat and started swinging it, a move that Beckham felt threatened by.

The tension from the pregame incident blew up in the third quarter when Beckham was flagged three times for unnecessary roughness. One of those penalties came after Beckham hit Norman with a direct helmet-to-helmet shot.

Norman also got flagged once for unnecessary roughness during the third quarter spat.

As for the bat, the Panthers claim there's an explanation for it.

Cornerback Bene Benwikere claims that no one was threatening Beckham and that the team has used the bat all season as a motivational object.

Benwikere, who's out for the season with a broken leg, also pointed out that several other teams use it. A Panthers source told ProFootballTalk that the Giants are only bringing up the bat "to distract from Beckham's antics."

It's hard to separate fact from fiction here, but two things are definitely true: The Panthers did bring a bat on the field and someone did point that bat at the Giants as they came out on the field (photo via Giants' Instagram).

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Also, Norman definitely had possession of the bat at some point, however, there's no video evidence yet that shows him pointing it or swinging it in Beckham's direction (photo via Jay Glazer Instagram).

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Beckham is facing the prospect of a one-game suspension for his antics and it's possible the Giants are using the bat as way to argue that Beckham shouldn't be suspended at all.

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What a fragile mind Beckham has if he actually believed there was any credible threat involving a baseball bat on the field of an NFL game. I don't know if any verbal threats were made, and if there were I don't support that, but this sounds like a bunch of Bull Shit.