Bears sign WR Bennie Fowler

[wood20ks]

Very true. It will come down to who is left on the board when we pick. But getting Trubs protection and WR help is in line with everything we have done this whole offseason.

This is why it makes most sense for Nelson or McGlinchey at 1.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

This is why it makes most sense for Nelson or McGlinchey at 1.

Nelson is a no brainer if still there. I don't expect he will be. McGlinchy does not line up with our draft position, as in not worth a 8 but long gone by our second pick. My gut says Billy Price C/G will be a bear 2nd 3thrd RD. He is a top flight C and we can move CW to the open G position. Of coarse none of this happens if Nelson is there.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

And when I say McGlinchey is not worth a 8 I mean to us right now. He will be a stud for a longtime for someone.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

Growth comes from experience in a system. This is a new system. I think a much much better system but this year will be about mastering and learning this system. KC took a year to master it. We will too. But a Injury to AR and the box gets stacked again. Right?

I doubt it, unless they want to get burned.

And any NFL experience is good experience. That’s just a stupid statement, sorry if that offends you. Yeah, it’d be more ideal if that experience was in Nagys system, but saying these second year players didn’t gain experience in their rookie year with a different system is just dumb as fuck. You are just looking for things to be critical about. There will be bumps along the way in the new system, but next year will be worlds better than last year.

You are vastly underrating our receivers as well. If Gabriel is good enough to be the number two receiver on an nfc champion, he’s good enough for us. Just about any team is going to feel it if their best wide receiver goes down. I’m sorry, but your complaints are just ridiculous.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

Gabriel was cut by the Browns before joining ATL. He has averaged over 13.8 yards per reception throughout his career with the Atlanta Falcons and Cleveland Browns. In all, he has recorded 1,819 receiving yards, 8 touchdowns, and 132 receptions. Six of those touchdowns came during the Falcons’ Super Bowl season of 2016. He was never a 2 or 3. He was a specialist that does one thing well, runs fast. His career averages are per season 450 yds & 2 tds per season. We added 1 true wr and lost one. How are we much better? We may be a little better if healthy and no better if/when injury's happen. We are gonna use a draft pick to replace Cam.

 

[richig07]

Gabriel was cut by the Browns before joining ATL. He has averaged over 13.8 yards per reception throughout his career with the Atlanta Falcons and Cleveland Browns. In all, he has recorded 1,819 receiving yards, 8 touchdowns, and 132 receptions. Six of those touchdowns came during the Falcons’ Super Bowl season of 2016. He was never a 2 or 3. He was a specialist that does one thing well, runs fast. His career averages are per season 450 yds & 2 tds per season. We added 1 true wr and lost one. How are we much better? We may be a little better if healthy and no better if/when injury's happen. We are gonna use a draft pick to replace Cam.

You are so dishonest, Noon.

"We added WR's... but when they get hurt. It won't matter!"

LMAO... Naw, ya don't say? If you add people who get hurt, it won't matter. No one is disputing that. Can't you say that with any team and ANY free agent add?

And uh... the draft has not happened yet. Good god. lol

 

[richig07]

Dishonest??? Do you men honest? I listed our WR group from both years exactly as it was. I did not list injury's for last year or the ones coming this year.

Because the problem, NOON. Is that we didn't have White, Meredith or Miller. Which was a HUGE part of the issue. They were not apart of our WR corp last year with Trubisky, outside of Miller for 2.5 games. lol

It is DISHONEST to suggest they were apart of our horrid WR corp problem last year. A large part of the problem was that they weren't there.

But yeah, Noon... Cam Meredith is Randy Moss. How about we play your dishonest "season average game".

Meredith has been in the league, since 2015. He has accumulated 1007 yards over those three seasons and 4 TD's. Oops... Looks like from here that Cam Meredith has a 333 yard 1.333 TD season average as a WR.

No need to add context to that, right Nooner?

Bleck

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

Yes Rich facts are dishonest. You like that word but have no clue what it means. And yes the draft has not happened yet, we know that. My bitch is we will have to use the draft that did not happen yet to replace WR and Oline. Or is that dishonest too?

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

Because the problem, NOON. Is that we didn't have White, Meredith or Miller. Which was a HUGE part of the issue. They were not apart of our WR corp last year with Trubisky, outside of Miller for 2.5 games. lol

It is DISHONEST to suggest they were apart of our horrid WR corp problem last year. A large part of the problem was that they weren't there.

But yeah, Noon... Cam Meredith is Randy Moss. How about we play your dishonest "season average game".

Meredith has been in the league, since 2015. He has accumulated 1007 yards over those three seasons and 4 TD's. Oops... Looks like from here that Cam Meredith has a 333 yard 1.333 TD season average as a WR.

No need to add context to that, right Nooner?

Bleck

No reason at all. Them are the facts. Making excuses won't change them.

 

[richig07]

Yes Rich facts are dishonest. You like that word but have no clue what it means. And yes the draft has not happened yet, we know that. My bitch is we will have to use the draft that did not happen yet to replace WR and Oline. Or is that dishonest too?

Noon, you're listing Meredith, White and Miller as apart of our WR corps last year. They weren't. That's a lie. At best, it's disingenuous as hell.

You are also being dishonest in merely stating all of these players career averages out of context, when it is convenient for your little baby boy meltdown here. Then, not holding Cam Meredith to that same standard. Let's try it out...

Meredith was released by the Bears before joining New Orleans He has averaged over 13.1 yards per reception throughout his career with the Chicago. In all, he has recorded 1,007 receiving yards, 4 touchdowns, and 77 receptions. He has less career starts than both other Bears WR's in Gabriel and Robinson. His career averages are per season 333 yds & 1 td per season.


Hmm... Noon. Why are you upset that we didn't pay a WR 5.4 mil per year that's only averaged 333 yards and 1 TD per year?


Do you see how this is a dishonest portrayal of Cam Meredith?

 

[richig07]

No reason at all. Them are the facts. Making excuses won't change them.

Noon, lol... Those aren't facts. They're lies. Those WR's played 2.5 combined games with Trubs last year.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

Because the problem, NOON. Is that we didn't have White, Meredith or Miller. Which was a HUGE part of the issue. They were not apart of our WR corp last year with Trubisky, outside of Miller for 2.5 games. lol


Yes the problem also is we lost CM last year, the only WR we had. White and Miller should never have been part of the plan. Neither have ever been healthy and should never have been counted on. Not dishonest, facts. Miller has had 1 full season in 12 years and White 0 in 3. And we counted on them???? Not a mistake at all because Pace did it right Rich.

 

[richig07]

What? I never insinuated that losing Meredith wasn't a problem. It was.

Also, you just buried yourself. You say we shouldn't have counted on Miller or White because they've been injured. Yet, guess who never played a game last year due to injury? Meredith. You seem fine in relying on him. You're throwing a hissy fit over his dismissal.

You are being dishonest, moving goal posts, ignoring context and holding Meredith to a different standard in every single metric.

Hit the fuckin bricks, dude. @noonthirtyjoe

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

I'm not freaking out Rich no matter how many times you say it. I'm not happy that we have to replace guys we already had. We needed to use them draft picks elsewhere.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

What? I never insinuated that losing Meredith wasn't a problem. It was.

Also, you just buried yourself. You say we shouldn't have counted on Miller or White because they've been injured. Yet, guess who never played a game last year due to injury? Meredith.

You are being dishonest, moving goal posts, ignoring context and holding Meredith to a different standard in every single metric.

Hit the fuckin bricks, dude. @noonthirtyjoe

No Rich you are being dishonest. I hold no high regard for Meridith and never have. Your dishonest in saying I buried myself. Meridith had one freak injury the other 2 are hurt every year and should never have been counted on. Big difference between 1 freak injury and a history of injury.

 

[richig07]

No Rich you are being dishonest. I hold no high regard for Meridith and never have. Your dishonest in saying I buried myself. Meridith had one freak injury the other 2 are hurt every year and should never have been counted on. Big difference between 1 freak injury and a history of injury.

No Rich you are being dishonest.

The ole "I'm not! You are!"... Good one. lol

Meridith had one freak injury the other 2 are hurt every year and should never have been counted on.

Oooooooooohhhh... Meredith's injury was just "freaky". So, it's different. Gotcha. How convenient for you.

I hold no high regard for Meridith and never have.

You think we should have paid him 5.4 mil guaranteed per year to be a starter here and are having a hissy fit over it. You certainly hold some kind of regard for him.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

No Rich you are being dishonest.

The ole "I'm not! You are!"... Good one. lol

Meridith had one freak injury the other 2 are hurt every year and should never have been counted on.

Oooooooooohhhh... Meredith's injury was just "freaky". So, it's different. Gotcha. How convenient for you.

I hold no high regard for Meridith and never have.

You think we should have paid him 5.4 mil guaranteed per year to be a starter here and are having a hissy fit over it. You certainly hold some kind of regard for him.

So one injury is the same as being injured every year = honest.
So paying our 3 or 4 TE Sims 6 mil is money better spent then retaining our young no.2 WR for less. God call.
As I have clearly stated multiple times my problem is having to replace guys with draft picks that are needed elsewhere.

 

[richig07]

So one injury is the same as being injured every year = honest.
So paying our 3 or 4 TE Sims 6 mil is money better spent then retaining our young no.2 WR for less. God call.
As I have clearly stated multiple times my problem is having to replace guys with draft picks that are needed elsewhere.

So one injury is the same as being injured every year = honest.

No. That's dishonest, Noon. Meredith is coming off of a catastrophic knee injury and you're ignoring that he has injury issues. lol. He's only played two seasons in any kind of a role and spent one with a blown out knee. Not promising.

Your arguing points are all separate little houses of cards. One little blow and it all falls over. Just the SLIGHTEST examination of each finds all kinds of flaws, contextual inadequacies and dishonest statements.

You are calling our TE last year (Miller) and WR's inadequate. We've added a TE and 3 WR's now this off-season. Will likely add a 4th in the draft. Lol. This is hilarious.

 

[noonthirtyjoe]

So one injury is the same as being injured every year = honest.

No. That's dishonest, Noon. Meredith is coming off of a catastrophic knee injury and you're ignoring that he has injury issues. lol. He's only played two seasons in any kind of a role and spent one with a blown out knee. Not promising. ( So let me do the math 1 injury)

Your arguing points are all separate little houses of cards. One little blow and it all falls over. ( I agree 1 injury to AR and it all falls over) Just the SLIGHTEST examination of each finds all kinds of flaws, contextual inadequacies and dishonest statements. ( and honest truths that you don't wanna hear )

You are calling our TE last year (Miller) and WR's inadequate. We've added a TE and 3 WR's now this off-season. Will likely add a 4th in the draft. Lol. This is hilarious.

( yes I'm calling last year group inadequate )
We added 1 true injured WR and then some hopefuls. Well 1 in Buton. Gabriel and Bennie are less then ideal and would not start anywhere else. And yes we will draft at least one WR, which is kinda my whole bitch. I wanted to keep Cam for 3 reasons.
1. Young
2. Cheap 5.4 mil is a bargain for a 2.
3. If we kept Cam we also kept a draft pick. We lost both.

 

[richig07]

( yes I'm calling last year group inadequate )
We added 1 true injured WR and then some hopefuls. Well 1 in Buton. Gabriel and Bennie are less then ideal and would not start anywhere else. And yes we will draft at least one WR, which is kinda my whole bitch. I wanted to keep Cam for 3 reasons.
1. Young
2. Cheap 5.4 mil is a bargain for a 2.
3. If we kept Cam we also kept a draft pick. We lost both.

Gabriel and Bennie are less then ideal and would not start anywhere else.

Lol... Gabriel is a gadget player and a speed weapon. He's head and shoulders more explosive than anyone that Trubs was throwing to last year. Inman? Wright? Give me a break.

We added 1 true injured WR and then some hopefuls.

What universe do you live in where teams can just snap a finger and have a position of weakness filled with elite players top to bottom on the depth chart?

AR, Gabriel, rookie, White (if healthy), Burton, Shaheen, Sims

Is so clearly head/shoulders better than Inman, Wright, Bellamy and Shaheen/Sims. Which was our target group for the entirety of Trubisky's season, outside of 2.5 games with Miller.

1. Young

As will be our new, young WR if we should draft one.

2. Cheap 5.4 mil is a bargain for a 2.

A) 2 years/10.8 mil guaranteed is a bargain for a #2 with 77 career receptions, coming off of an ACL/MCL tear.

Yet, 2 years/18 mil guaranteed is a horrible, dreadful overpay for a healthy, young TE who is on the upswing of his career and will have a key role in the offense. Gotcha.

B) If we draft a rookie WR, he'll be cheaper than 5.4 mil per.

3. If we kept Cam we also kept a draft pick. We lost both.

You could say the same thing about Dontrelle Inman or any other crappy WR we let walk. I'd prefer to have talent that Nagy actually feels confident in and fits what he's trying to do best going forward. Not to mention, that a rookie WR would (presumably) not be coming off of a catastrophic knee injury.

To suggest that the WR situation hasn't improved this off-season is another level of dishonesty.