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I really like what I seen from Illoka. He may win that starting job.
 

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I have been a big supporter of giving Collins a shot, but after Osi abused him last night, I believe it's time to move on.
 

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I have been a big supporter of giving Collins a shot, but after Osi abused him last night, I believe it's time to move on.

Collins is what he is. An above average backup who can come in in a pinch.
 

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There was nothing "above average" from what I saw last night.
 

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There was nothing "above average" from what I saw last night.

Agreed. He looked like a rookie. It was surprising. This is actually the kid's 6th year in the league now and he actually looks worse than he did as a rookie.
 

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It turns out that practicing actually helps.... If you decide to take the entire offseason off, you might be a bit rusty. Who knew?

Rust could be a part of it, but I'm going to pull a Marvin Lewis and question his PFF rating in pass protection. just using the eyeball test he looks awkward whenever a true edge rusher is on the other-side of the ball
 

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Rust could be a part of it, but I'm going to pull a Marvin Lewis and question his PFF rating in pass protection. just using the eyeball test he looks awkward whenever a true edge rusher is on the other-side of the ball

Smith is a good pass protector, but he occasionally has problems with speed rushers. He is one of the best RTs in the league.
 

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I'd definitely keep Hamilton over Whalen. Wouldn't think twice about it.
 

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I'd definitely keep Hamilton over Whalen. Wouldn't think twice about it.

I'm hoping to see more out of Hamilton, but I definitely agree here.... Whalen is a guy that could fill a role on a team with injuries on the receiving corps, but I don't see him ever graduating past that 6th man.
 

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Cobi Hamilton will be claimed off the PS faster then Dez Briscoe was. No way we should keep Whalen over Hamilton. Would be moronic.

I'll take the opinion of an actually NFL Coach instead of some internet chat-board blowhard.

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On a day everybody seemed to have the drops, wide receiver Ryan Whalen turned out to be as relentlessly reliable as ever with the hottest hand of the hottest practice of training camp Saturday at Paul Brown Stadium [...] "Whalen does well every day," Gruden said. "People sleep on him because he does nothing really magnificent. He just does everything right. Quarterbacks love him. I love him because he knows what to do. He's always in the right spot, he plays hard, he blocks hard … that goes unnoticed. But he's one tough kid."

Camp report: Whale-n of a practice; Hudson gives football another shot
 

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I'll take the opinion of an actually NFL Coach instead of some internet chat-board blowhard.

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On a day everybody seemed to have the drops, wide receiver Ryan Whalen turned out to be as relentlessly reliable as ever with the hottest hand of the hottest practice of training camp Saturday at Paul Brown Stadium [...] "Whalen does well every day," Gruden said. "People sleep on him because he does nothing really magnificent. He just does everything right. Quarterbacks love him. I love him because he knows what to do. He's always in the right spot, he plays hard, he blocks hard … that goes unnoticed. But he's one tough kid."

Camp report: Whale-n of a practice; Hudson gives football another shot

He had a good practice. He must be Jerry Rice.
 

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He had a good practice. He must be Jerry Rice.

Your brother says things he often can't defend. You must protect.



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Your brother says things he often can't defend. You must protect.



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What can't be defended. Whalen has hit his peak....which isn't very good. He isn't going to crack this lineup without injuries. Hamilton is young, has talent, was projected to go higher than that, has a lot more potential. Why would you keep Walen over Hamilton? It's moronic.
 

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I'm not really a Walen guy. Just bored and rustling.
 

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Whalen failed in his biggest moment the other night.... First team offense, third and long, ball coming his way and he doesn't make the play. We can make excuses about him slipping, but the facts remain -- He didn't make the play and he probably won't make many plays in the NFL. He's a practice guy. Good for him.
 

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I'm not really a Walen guy. Just bored and rustling.

At least you admitted it haha. I wouldn't have said anything had I seen the picture before I responded but it didn't load before I hit reply.
 

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Jerome Simpson anyone?
 
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