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[Godstree]

They must be referring to some sort of no trade clause. IF so, no issues. There is no one in their right mind that would trade for Alex at this moment. May BA can trade him to himself?

I would.....

 

[j_y19]

I would.....

Welcome to our nightmare. A team without a QB. We've been here for quite a while. Enjoy your stay.

 

[Sportster 72]

Alex Smith’s worth to Redskins to be revealed in Tampa

The article speaks for itself

 

[Godstree]

Welcome to our nightmare. A team without a QB. We've been here for quite a while. Enjoy your stay.

Our QB coach was a scrub with zero resume. Dak will not ever get better with that as a coach.

 

[j_y19]

Our QB coach was a scrub with zero resume. Dak will not ever get better with that as a coach.

So was your HC.

 

[Godstree]

So was your HC.

Don't be critical of My head coach!!!!










That's my job.

 

[skinsdad62]

well we paid smith and made the trade because he was supposed to be what KC allegedly wasnt

the excuse parade if he fails will be plenty . but the fact is KC had the same excuses but he was treated much differently as far as expectations

we will see

 

[Niner Outlaw]

@reptec101 , @Breed

You're not entirely stuck with the guy. There is a rather bold move the FO could make if the team wants to move on from Smith.

--Cut him after this season before the start of the 2019 league year.--
The drawback to that is that you'd lose 6.6M in 2019 cap space (21.6M in dead money minus the 15M in 2019 salary). The good part is that he's off the books forever after that. Would Snyder be willing to do that just a year after trading for him and paying him 40M in cash for 1 year?

It's clear that Smith's people played hardball with the FO, but at the time, considering the Qb market, it was a good deal for both sides. The start of the 2019 league year is a BIG day in the contract b/c on that day, Smith's 16M salary for the NEXT season, 2020, becomes fully guaranteed. That means, if you cut him after the 2019 season, the team's 2020 cap would then have 16M in salary charge and 16.2M in bonus charge (32M total!) for a guy no longer on the team--so that won't happen.

But you CAN trade him after the 2019 season if you're comfortable breaking even on the cap space, getting peanuts in return after having paid him a 2 year total of 55M in cash (27M bonus, 13M salary, 15M salary... damn!).

 

[Breed]

Actually what it says is the FO couldn't correctly evaluate any of the last three QBs in Washington.

No way around it. Our FO's evaluation skills are lacking, but what's killin the fuck outta this team, reanimating it, and killing the fuck outta it again. Is how we've boxed ourselves into a fuckin corner in large part it seems to laziness and lnot givin a fuck with our last 3 QBs

We coddled the fuck outta that one. Basically told that one if not by word, than by deed, to go kick fuckin rocks, and allowed the contract of that one to poison-pill our own damn selves.

 

[Breed]

The hits just keep coming with this Front Office, huh?

Fuck. Its like we're the test subjects in a how a team can turn its own fans against itself experiment. From the sound of the crowd of the last couple home games. They succeeded in driving away the go to the game Skins fans. Now I guesss its time to focus on us tv watching fans.

 

[Breed]

@reptec101 , @Breed

You're not entirely stuck with the guy. There is a rather bold move the FO could make if the team wants to move on from Smith.

--Cut him after this season before the start of the 2019 league year.--
The drawback to that is that you'd lose 6.6M in 2019 cap space (21.6M in dead money minus the 15M in 2019 salary). The good part is that he's off the books forever after that. Would Snyder be willing to do that just a year after trading for him and paying him 40M in cash for 1 year?

Snyder's fucked off some serious coin over the years due to blunder-headedness and a lack of patience. Haynesworth, Jason Taylor, TJ Duckett, Warrick Holdman, Adam Archuleta, Randle El, Deion, Mark Carrier, Donovan McNabb, Shanahan, Spurrier, Zorn, Marty........Hell, I'd be OK with cuttin bait with Smith's ass after this season. With one caveat. That being if he's been playing hurt.

It's clear that Smith's people played hardball with the FO, but at the time, considering the Qb market, it was a good deal for both sides. The start of the 2019 league year is a BIG day in the contract b/c on that day, Smith's 16M salary for the NEXT season, 2020, becomes fully guaranteed. That means, if you cut him after the 2019 season, the team's 2020 cap would then have 16M in salary charge and 16.2M in bonus charge (32M total!) for a guy no longer on the team--so that won't happen.

People need to stop saying the bolded. It was a shitty deal for the Skins........and that was when I thought Smith and Cousins were probably on the same tier level talent-wise/playing-wise, but gave KC the nod for youth and staying injury-free.

But you CAN trade him after the 2019 season if you're comfortable breaking even on the cap space, getting peanuts in return after having paid him a 2 year total of 55M in cash (27M bonus, 13M salary, 15M salary... damn!).

Better to do it after this year and lose 40 mill and if given the chance and Smith isn't hurt. I'd cut his ass lose as soon as the Skins 2018 season is officially over.

 

[Breed]

I would.....

He said in his right mind, homey.

 

[gkekoa]

Alex Smith’s worth to Redskins to be revealed in Tampa

The article speaks for itself

All I could think of in that article was when Jay Gruden said AS has everything you want in a QB...except balls.

 

[huskers1217]

 

[Sportster 72]

@reptec101 , @Breed

You're not entirely stuck with the guy. There is a rather bold move the FO could make if the team wants to move on from Smith.

--Cut him after this season before the start of the 2019 league year.--
The drawback to that is that you'd lose 6.6M in 2019 cap space (21.6M in dead money minus the 15M in 2019 salary). The good part is that he's off the books forever after that. Would Snyder be willing to do that just a year after trading for him and paying him 40M in cash for 1 year?

It's clear that Smith's people played hardball with the FO, but at the time, considering the Qb market, it was a good deal for both sides. The start of the 2019 league year is a BIG day in the contract b/c on that day, Smith's 16M salary for the NEXT season, 2020, becomes fully guaranteed. That means, if you cut him after the 2019 season, the team's 2020 cap would then have 16M in salary charge and 16.2M in bonus charge (32M total!) for a guy no longer on the team--so that won't happen.

But you CAN trade him after the 2019 season if you're comfortable breaking even on the cap space, getting peanuts in return after having paid him a 2 year total of 55M in cash (27M bonus, 13M salary, 15M salary... damn!).

Yes I understand we aren't stuck, but we have to pay to be unstuck. Why not just pay the last guy, keep your player and draft pick and continue to try and improve this team. It doesn't matter who made the Smith deal, it stinks to high heaven. As Breed said Snyder has been the leader of a team that has continued to make this same type of mistake over and over. The reason our stadium is empty after so many years of sellout is they are tired of this regime and what it does.

We had to have a pissing match with Kyle Shanahan. We let a guy like McVay go. You can just go on and on. Marvin Lewis was once assistant HC for one year then he ran for the hills. There is a reason.

 

[Godstree]

He said in his right mind, homey.

You are right and words have meaning.

 

[Sportster 72]

From ESPN:
Hurdle to overcome: The passing game, without a doubt. The makeshift line can be thrown in here, too. Quarterback Alex Smith has been ordinary at best. The Redskins have the No. 24 passing attack and the No. 22 offense in the red zone. Smith has stuck too long with some targets and been too impatient with others, costing them opportunities.

Before someone starts making excuses this is during the portion of the season before the injury bug bit. Hard to imagine it is going to get better after losing 80% of his Oline but we will see. An unnamed QB in Minnesota has been down 2 starters to the Oline most of the year. Just saying.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Sportster 72]

I wonder about drafting a QB high. The benefit in a young QB starting, especially if he is good is the reduced salary for 4 years. If you draft a guy high next year what are they going to with Smith. Pay him to ride the bench? Let the rookie QB ride the bench and use one or two of his less expensive years before finding out if you have a guy worth keeping? Trade or cut Smith?

They are probably looking at a new HC next year or the year after also.

 

[kbso83432]

If the Skins don't make the playoffs, I think Jay and Bruce are gone. Nobody goes to the game anymore. That's the only thing that gets Dan's attention.