Angels Get Simmons

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

#Braves trade Simmons to #Angels for Newcomb, Ellis, Aybar and about $3M

 

[Mondo Jay]

All the Angels' pitchers just got better.

 

[NWinAZ]

All the Angels' pitchers just got better.

They did and I am shocked Braves dealt him. I would have loved him in Seattle.

 

[cezero]

Looking at his contract for the next 4-5 years, I'm not sure I'd be willing to deal equivalent talent for him. I think defense at SS is more important than offense, don't get me wrong, but I think the Braves got the better end of the deal on this one by just a bit. Aybar wasn't a defensive liability or anything, and Simmons' bat is a downgrade.

 

[DJ]

I like this move a lot.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Looking at his contract for the next 4-5 years, I'm not sure I'd be willing to deal equivalent talent for him. I think defense at SS is more important than offense, don't get me wrong, but I think the Braves got the better end of the deal on this one by just a bit. Aybar wasn't a defensive liability or anything, and Simmons' bat is a downgrade.

Yeah, Simmons will be a downgrade with the bat, but if the Angels have a hitting coach that he will listen to, he can be a decent hitter. He has streaks when he uses all fields where he's one of the best hitters in the lineup, but then he hits 1 home run and then that's all he tries for and he ends up with a lot of pop ups and ground balls to the opposing short stop.

He rarely strikes, and puts the ball in play, he just needs it beat into his brain that he's not a power hitter and is best when he sprays the ball to all fields.

He did win the double A batting title, not that it means anything in the Majors.

 

[DJ]

Looking at his contract for the next 4-5 years, I'm not sure I'd be willing to deal equivalent talent for him. I think defense at SS is more important than offense, don't get me wrong, but I think the Braves got the better end of the deal on this one by just a bit. Aybar wasn't a defensive liability or anything, and Simmons' bat is a downgrade.

Downgrade? Aybar's and Simmons offensive years were almost identical and Simmons is a lot better defensively.

 

[cezero]

Downgrade? Aybar's and Simmons offensive years were almost identical and Simmons is a lot better defensively.

Interesting interpretation of stats.

Regardless, it's not always the best thing to look at one season.

 

[DJ]

Interesting interpretation of stats.

Regardless, it's not always the best thing to look at one season.

Aybar's 31.....I think the drop this season in his offense is just a sign of things to come......I think that's why they dealt him to get younger and better overall.

 

[NWinAZ]

I am a big fan of Simmons. I think Angels made out very well. The guy is a vacuum at SS and can hold his own on offense. I would have welcomed him with open arms to Seattle and his contract isn't bad at all when averaged out over its remaining life.

 

[unlvmariners]

Simmons is a fantastic young SS. Great glove and under valued bat. Good trade for the Angels. Surprised the Braves did this to be honest, they get great "prospect" arms and Aybar. Aybar is solid but doesn't really make sense for what the Braves should be doing. Interesting trade none the less.

 

[NWinAZ]

They expect Braves to deal Aybar for younger talent. He only has one year left on deal so he would be an easy trade. Do M's take chance on him and let Marte backup for one more year or just run with Marte? I like Marte and thought he proved himself last year, but it also scares me to go into a season with no real vet at a position. 50/50 on this one.

 

[cezero]

I am a big fan of Simmons. I think Angels made out very well. The guy is a vacuum at SS and can hold his own on offense. I would have welcomed him with open arms to Seattle and his contract isn't bad at all when averaged out over its remaining life.

I guess I'd want to know just what the M's are looking at as far as projected average payroll over the next 4-5 years before deciding one way or the other if it could've been a good move for the M's...not that we have a top AL SS to give up in any trade, lol.

.256/.304/.338/.660 career line with an OPS+ of 85 just really kind of stood out to me.

 

[PolarVortex]

Braves had an all-world defensive shortstop and couldn't wait to unload him. So, what does that say about Simmons?

And that lefty pitcher the Angels gave up has a pretty bright future. I can see him the Braves rotation by next July.

Anyone who thinks the Angels won this trade is being very premature in their judgment.

 

[cezero]

Braves had an all-world defensive shortstop and couldn't wait to unload him. So, what does that say about Simmons?

It looked a little like that to me, too.

They signed him two years ago, and he has made zero progress offensively, and he only has 2 more years before he starts making $10 million+ per year, and $40 million over 3. That means a team gets 2 years of value from him unless his offensive numbers go way up. If they were going to trade him, now was the time.

 

[PolarVortex]

They expect Braves to deal Aybar for younger talent. He only has one year left on deal so he would be an easy trade. Do M's take chance on him and let Marte backup for one more year or just run with Marte? I like Marte and thought he proved himself last year, but it also scares me to go into a season with no real vet at a position. 50/50 on this one.

I think you have to give Marte a pretty long leash next year. We have Chris Taylor as insurance. He isn't much insurance, but hopefully he eventually will have a bat decent enough to warrant b eing a utility player at the MLB level.

But, I believe in Marte. I think he is going to hit and field well enough to hold shortstop all year long. I never felt that way about Taylor or Ackley or Smoak. And Marte does not appear to have the arrogance that Franklin had. That will work in his favor too.