andrew luck!!

[crash]

Andrew luck is over rated.....He is showing it tonight that he can't do shit in the big game!!

 

[numone9er]

You are jumping to conclusions over 1 game? Because of 1 interception? He's not perfect, and yes he's had some bad plays tonight, but you have to expect things like that from time to time. Peyton Manning choked big time in his last Super Bowl. He's still Peyton Manning isn't he?

 

[imac_21]

Here fishy fishy fishy.

Heeeeeeerrrrrrrrrre FISHY!!!!!

 

[threelittleturds]

Here fishy fishy fishy.

Heeeeeeerrrrrrrrrre FISHY!!!!!

mmmmmmm, worms...

 

[Smart]

You are jumping to conclusions over 1 game? Because of 1 interception? He's not perfect, and yes he's had some bad plays tonight, but you have to expect things like that from time to time. Peyton Manning choked big time in his last Super Bowl. He's still Peyton Manning isn't he?

But Peyton Manning has statistically been the best player in the league and has consistently led his team to good wins. Luck can claim neither.

 

[NinerSickness]

"Interception."

HE'S A BUM! GET RID OF HIM! HE'S THE WORST PLAYER I'VE EVER SEEN!

"Touchdown Anderw Luck."

HE'S THE GREATEST QB I'VE EVER SEEN! THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN LET HIM IN THE NFL BECAUSE HE'S TOO GOOD! IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR!

 

[crash]

Luck will be a starter in the nfl i just don't think he will be great as they are making him out to be!! He is no elway or montana

 

[NinerSickness]

Elway! While we're on grossly overrated QBs...

 

[crash]

Elway was a 9 x pro bowler.... 2 x super bowl champion...he threw 300 td's and had 51,475 passing yards in his career and 34 4th quarter come back wins.. but he is overrated??

 

[imac_21]

Elway was a 9 x pro bowler.... 2 x super bowl champion...he threw 300 td's and had 51,475 passing yards in his career and 34 4th quarter come back wins.. but he is overrated??

Yes.

 

[crash]

Why do you think he is overrated?

 

[imac_21]

I'm going to let Sick handle that.

I'll just leave it at, all his numbers suggest he was a top 7, or top 5 QB of his era. How that makes someone one of the best QBs of all time.

 

[Kinzu]

People buy into passing numbers way to much and that has made a lot of QB's over the years be considered great and even part of the greatest of all time. Passing yards just simply means your team threw the ball a lot and typically it also means you either lost a lot or did not play with the lead that often or in the case of Brett Farve just played forever.

Then again it's a team sport and some of those QB's probably were great just had bad coaches that put to much of the game on them or bad players around them that forced them to do to much.

 

[tallglassofwater007]

Stanfords defense can't keep up with an offense this fast and the tempo they play at. Luck was in a position tonight where he couldn't make any mistakes in order for his team to have a shot. Most of the time when QB's are put in a position like that, they tend to make a mistake. Have you just been waiting with this thread in hand for Stanford to lose a game??

 

[Ray_Dogg]

No TD no SBs for Elway.

 

[crash]

i've never been a fan of luck...The media has hype this dude to be the next manning..I don't think he deserves to go number 1...Barkley and jones are both better qb's

 

[Flyingiguana]

the thing that really stuck out for me was how slow stanford is as a team. pretty obvious now that sec teams would roll over stanford.

 

[Flyingiguana]

i've never been a fan of luck...The media has hype this dude to be the next manning..I don't think he deserves to go number 1...Barkley and jones are both better qb's

i wouldnt go that far. even manning wasn't undefeated in college. luck played solid but can't expect him to put up 50 points on a top 10 team. he looked shaky at the start but settled down.

i think barkley is better than jones and he'll go #2 to luck. i really dont think it's close between luck and barkley.

 

[ViperVisor]

Elway is meh.

Regular season only for now, 'cause I haven't done any post-season numbers yet. As some of you know, I took (in alphabetical order) *Brady, Elway, Favre, Manning, Marino, Montana, Warner & Young and I calculated the total NFL attempts, completions, yards, TDs and INTs of the top 28 NFL QBs (to be consistant) and then compared each QB's career numbers against the average numbers from each respective time span. For example, I compared Favre's numbers against the total numbers from 1992 to present.

I did this because there was a lot of "Greatest of all time" talk after the superbowl, and it's unfair to compare, say, Brady's numbers to Montana's numbers because the rules for covering WRs, hitting the QB, etc are so different. But it's fine to compare Elway's #'s to Marino's numbers because they played almost the exact same years in the NFL (Marino played 1 more). Here are how each QB's RELATIVE statistics rank AGAINST THE AVERAGE in terms of (1) Passer Rating (2) Completion Percentage & (3) Yards Per Attempt:

PASSER RATING:

1) Young: +16.788

2) Montana: +14.316

3) Manning: +9.827

4) Warner: +8.638

5) *Brady: +7.811

6) Marino: +6.388

7) Favre: +0.015

8) Elway: -0.007

COMPLETION PERCENTAGE:

1) Young: +6.200%

2) Montana: +6.068%

3) Warner: +4.527%

4) Manning: +3.637%

5) *Brady: +1.968%

6) Favre: +1.700%

7) Marino: +0.014%

8) Elway: +0.012%

YARDS PER ATTEMPT:

1) Steve Young: +0.881

2) Warner: +0.850

3) Manning: +0.538

4) Montana: +0.370

5) Marino: +0.214

6) *Brady: +0.209

7) Favre: +0.007

8) Elway: -0.031

There you have it. Keep in mind, I spent quite a bit of time staring at a computer screen adding numbers, so I suppose I may have added incorrectly by a TINY TINY margin for some of them. Or maybe I did it flawlessly. But I was extremely careful and double-checked a lot of my columns, so I'm confident that this information is correct.

 

[Flyingiguana]

elway got his super bowls, but it cost davis his career