And down go the Buckeyes....

[bengaldoug]

Sorry kman.....

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Now, no one can complain about the Buckeyes making it into the NCG instead of Auburn.

 

[bengaldoug]

Yeah it kind off worked itself out, didn't it? Auburn looks like a team of destiny, though I don't know how they get by Florida State.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Yeah it kind off worked itself out, didn't it? Auburn looks like a team of destiny, though I don't know how they get by Florida State.

They don't. Famous Jameis will rock them along with that defense.

 

[Scorpion14]

Yeah it kind off worked itself out, didn't it? Auburn looks like a team of destiny, though I don't know how they get by Florida State.

Michigan State should be in the National Championship. The best defense in the country. Meanwhile Auburn starts the season unranked and plays a lot of close games and pulls two wins out of their butts.

 

[bengaldoug]

Michigan State should be in the National Championship. The best defense in the country. Meanwhile Auburn starts the season unranked and plays a lot of close games and pulls two wins out of their butts.

I really don't think it matters who Florida State plays. It's not going to be close. Auburn can't stop anyone, and Fla St will stop them enough to win by three scores. Michigan St can't score with them. Baylor can't stop anybody either. Florida State is a balanced offensive and defensive juggernaut.

 

[Tubbs1518]

FSU is good, but come on they have played no one with a defensive pulse all year and yes they blew out Clemson, but Clemson is vastly overrated. FSU isn't a juggernaut. They are a damn good team, but beatable for sure

 

[futballiscool]

FSU is good, but come on they have played no one with a defensive pulse all year and yes they blew out Clemson, but Clemson is vastly overrated. FSU isn't a juggernaut. They are a damn good team, but beatable for sure

Pete Carroll had a mini-dynasty at USC when the PAC 10 was as soft a major conference as you'll find.

That's who this FSU team reminds me of right now.

You can play a weak schedule and still be the best team in the country by a considerable margin

During last night's game Brent Musburger said that according to a conversation he had with Bill Polian 8 of FSU's 11 defensive starters are NFL lock.

 

[NCBengal]

I agree with Tubbs. Don't count out Auburn. FSU has not seen anything like them all year and they score at will. This title game will be a lot closer than you think.

 

[futballiscool]

Yeah it kind off worked itself out, didn't it? Auburn looks like a team of destiny, though I don't know how they get by Florida State.

For all the flack that the BCS takes it almost always works itself out at the end of the year

 

[Tubbs1518]

I won't say almost always.

 

[futballiscool]

Auburn in 2004 is the last time I would say a team had a legitimate gripe

 

[Tubbs1518]

2011?

 

[futballiscool]

2011?

I hated the title game in principal because it was a rematch, but it's hard to argue that the best team in the country wasn't the National Champion

 

[TBBishop]

FSU is good, but come on they have played no one with a defensive pulse all year and yes they blew out Clemson, but Clemson is vastly overrated. FSU isn't a juggernaut. They are a damn good team, but beatable for sure

Every team is beatable. Sometimes you have teams who play softer schedules and it's easy to see if they played better comp they wouldn't look so good but other times you have teams that look like they would play that way against anyone. This FSU team looks that good.

 

[TBBishop]

Pete Carroll had a mini-dynasty at USC when the PAC 10 was as soft a major conference as you'll find.

That's who this FSU team reminds me of right now.

You can play a weak schedule and still be the best team in the country by a considerable margin

During last night's game Brent Musburger said that according to a conversation he had with Bill Polian 8 of FSU's 11 defensive starters are NFL lock.

I've tried to explain that to people for years. Being the best team in the best conference doesn't mean you are the best team in the country. The ACC wasn't a good conference when FSU was winning before and the Big East certainly couldn't be mistaken for a good conference when Miami was dominating. USC had to split a championship because the conference wasn't strong enough to get them in the BCS title game.

 

[TBBishop]

For all the flack that the BCS takes it almost always works itself out at the end of the year

I wouldn't go so far as to say it worked. At this point the 2 most deserving teams are probably FSU and Auburn but I honestly don't think Auburn is one of the 2 best teams in the country. It worked as far as getting OSU the hell out of there but if it really worked then it would be FSU/Alabama IMO. I mean how many people think that in about 30 days in Pasadena, Auburn would beat Alabama? I don't.

 

[futballiscool]

I've tried to explain that to people for years. Being the best team in the best conference doesn't mean you are the best team in the country. The ACC wasn't a good conference when FSU was winning before and the Big East certainly couldn't be mistaken for a good conference when Miami was dominating. USC had to split a championship because the conference wasn't strong enough to get them in the BCS title game.

When Ohio State was a missed two point conversion away from losing to an average Michigan team it was an indicator that they benefited from an easy schedule.

FSU hasn't even been challenged yet. The eyeball test tells me their offense, defense and QB are all elite on national level, not an ACC level.

Auburn's running game might be a tough matchup and I wouldn't rule out the chance of an upset. But this FSU team to me is the most talented team in the country and it's not even close

 

[futballiscool]

I wouldn't go so far as to say it worked. At this point the 2 most deserving teams are probably FSU and Auburn but I honestly don't think Auburn is one of the 2 best teams in the country. It worked as far as getting OSU the hell out of there but if it really worked then it would be FSU/Alabama IMO. I mean how many people think that in about 30 days in Pasadena, Auburn would beat Alabama? I don't.

They beat them in a de facto playoff game last week. That's good enough for me.
Alabama has no claim to the national championship

 

[bengaldoug]

I wouldn't go so far as to say it worked. At this point the 2 most deserving teams are probably FSU and Auburn but I honestly don't think Auburn is one of the 2 best teams in the country. It worked as far as getting OSU the hell out of there but if it really worked then it would be FSU/Alabama IMO. I mean how many people think that in about 30 days in Pasadena, Auburn would beat Alabama? I don't.

I'm an Alabama fan, and I haven't thought they were one of the best two teams for most of this season. Auburn finally exposed them. Was Auburn somewhat lucky to win? Probably. Are they one of the best two teams? Probably not. The SEC wasn't even the best conference this year. The Pac 12 was better imo. Oregon and Stanford seem to be the best two teams to me, but they both lost twice. That's what happens when you play in a treacherous conference, like the SEC has been recently, but not this year imo. According to the Sagarin ratings the Pac 12 teams played overall a three point higher schedule than the SEC, who was a clear second. The Big 12, Big 10, and ACC were all relatively equal according to Sagarin, and about three points further down than the SEC.

Here are the average schedule rankings of the big five.

1) Pac 12 78.24
2) SEC 74.74
3) ACC 72.06
4) Big 12 71.98
5) Big Ten 71.86