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Ndamukong Suh to sign 6-year, $114 million deal with Miami Dolphins - ESPN

Barring a breakdown in formal contract negotiations, Ndamukong Suh will sign with the Miami Dolphins after the new league year begins Tuesday for a deal that will pay him approximately $114 million with $60 million in guaranteed money, league sources told ESPN.

The Dolphins and Suh's agent Jimmy Sexton discussed those six-year parameters once the 72-hour window opened Saturday for dialogue between teams and unrestricted free agents, sources confirmed.

While Suh's former team, the Detroit Lions, were among the teams making competitive proposals, the Dolphins' parameters far exceeded the rest of the clubs interested in the defensive tackle.

The official proposal and contract, which would make Suh one of the NFL's highest-paid players, must be negotiated when the market opens at 4 p.m. ET Tuesday.

Based off the parameters, Suh will get $60 million in the first three years on a contract that is expected to average $19 million over the six years of the deal, sources said.

A league source told ESPN.com that Detroit's offer to Suh was $17 million per year with $58 million guaranteed -- a deal that would have still made Suh the highest-paid defensive player in the NFL.

BB_72: Man, 60M in 1st three years, IMO, that isn't all of the guaranteed $$$ either. If Suh stays injury free those three years, he should be able to finish that contract. THATS A LOT OF DOE
 

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Lions show why they are a loser organization when they did not franchise this guy. Just more excuses for another losing season.
 

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Lions show why they are a loser organization when they did not franchise this guy.

Really, by not tying up one quarter of the Salary Cap in franchising Suh is your definition of why? Salary Cap Hell more like... keep in mind 36 x 4 = 144. Suh would've had 9+ million in dead money on top of the 27 million for the tag. Three Contracts (Suh 36.0 million, CJ 20.5 million and Stafford 17.7 million = 74.2 million in 2015) alone would've been over half of the Cap of a 143 million Salary Cap.
 

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according to reports from media sources, the Lions were late in offering Suh 17M per/yr. w/58M in guarantees.

Also, the Lions would have had to offer 64.9M in guaranteed $$ and Oak would have had to offer 70M in guaranteed $$ to offset monies lost in state income taxes respectively to equal Miami's 60M in guaranteed $$

With Ndamukong Suh gone, Detroit Lions must keep calm and move on
The Lions made a fair bid over the weekend of $17 million a season with $58 million guaranteed. It came late in the process, after Miami all but handed Suh a blank check and told him to fill in the amount, but it was fair all the same.

By that time, though, the Dolphins had made enough headway in contract talks and making Suh feel wanted that Miami it was.

Ask Jimmy? It doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means, but it wasn't just agent Jimmy Sexton who made it known what sort of deal Suh was seeking. Suh told plenty of people in the organization the same thing, yet that offer wasn't forthcoming until after he played his best season last fall.
 

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Really, by not tying up one quarter of the Salary Cap in franchising Suh is your definition of why? Salary Cap Hell more like... keep in mind 36 x 4 = 144. Suh would've had 9+ million in dead money on top of the 27 million for the tag. Three Contracts (Suh 36.0 million, CJ 20.5 million and Stafford 17.7 million = 74.2 million in 2015) alone would've been over half of the Cap of a 143 million Salary Cap.

Still would have given us a punchers chance this year. Extra money to spend means nothing if you can't spend it on premium players.

This organization is the worst in the NFL. Never even been to a Super Bowl. But as fans were worried about money??? We went 0-16 for God sakes. If ANYONE should be pulling out all the stops to just WIN ONE FUCKING TIME it's the Lions.
 

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This organization is the worst in the NFL. Never even been to a Super Bowl.

Regardless, the Lions are still ranked 9th in Championships.

We went 0-16 for God sakes.

And you believe it was all on the Lions and no game changing calls by the officials? Dan Orlovsky first start should've been a win for the Lions. Leigh Bodden was called for a PI (a 14 foot man couldn't catch that pass out of bounds) that moved the ball into Lions territory to set up a game winning field goal.

NFL Recap - Detroit Lions at Minnesota Vikings - Oct 12, 2008 - CBSSports.com Game Recap

If ANYONE should be pulling out all the stops to just WIN ONE FUCKING TIME it's the Lions.

Just my take... until the NFL removes the Road Blocks I doubt were going anywhere.
 

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Just my take... until the NFL removes the Road Blocks I doubt were going anywhere.

After flaggate I agree. But at least with Suh we weren't going anywhere in the post season as opposed to going nowhere starting week 1 without him.
 

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But at least with Suh we weren't going anywhere in the post season as opposed to going nowhere starting week 1 without him.

I'm thinking you worded that wrong. Losing a big key player at this point in time looks grim and no we probably wont be number one in rushing defense, or number two in passing defense or number three in scoring defense. But, I can neither agree nor disagree what's going to happen next season on speculation and/or exaggeration without seeing more cards on the table.

After flaggate I agree.

I believe I'm the only one here that sees the officials stacking the deck against the Lions with their calls, non-calls and game changing calls. It happens to everyone is very misleading.
 

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Suh wasn't overpaid. Sooner than later someone else will get a bigger contract than him. The cap will go up, and with the way rookies are paid now, the Fish will be just fine.

Running backs - RUNNING BACKS - are getting 10-11 million a year. As the cap goes up so will contracts. Tons of average players make sick money because the money is there to spend. That's the future of the NFL.

Lions are the last team to really get fucked by the cap cause of how they picked in the top 3 all those years during that era.
 

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I had a gut feeling from the start that Suh wouldn't be a Loin in 2015. Life will go on without him
 

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Ndamukong Suh says he wanted to re-sign with the Lions.

"For me, my goal was always to come back," Suh said. "I was never looking to want to leave and figure out a different situation. But at the end of the day, I have to do what's best for myself and for my family." Lions president Tom Lewand said the team made an offer that would have made Suh the highest-paid defensive player in the league. The sides' parting does not seem to be bitter. Suh was upfront about chasing top dollar, and that's what he did.
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Source: Detroit Free Press
Mar 15 - 4:08 PM

No more excuses just because it's your favorite team. Fire Mayhew. Fire everybody. Lawrence Jackson speaks the truth.
 

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^^ If Suh says he didn't stomp on a guy he didn't stomp on him, right? :pound: Suh said he didn't know he step on Aaron Rogers because his feet were frozen but can't tell the difference in elevation. :pound:

"For me, my goal was always to come back,"
:pound:
 
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