ALL THINGS SUH

[Gulf of Brazil]

One other obstacle that Suh might consider, is the fact Florida doesn't have any taxes assessed on state income, as well as the following states; Alaska, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. Tennessee does have a state tax when considering capital gains solely.

Now, stating this, my main point is that all players have to pay a state income tax on their game checks according to where those games are played (meaning states that do have a state income tax assessed), whether they are a resident of said state or not. Think about the $$$ issues at hand here. Suh is taxed, game check only mind you, for his 8 home games in Detroit, plus the 3 division away games, and any other state where those taxes are assessed.

If Suh were to go to the Jags, be a legal resident (homestead) there, all that signing bonus, roster bonus, workout bonus $$$ won't be taxed one damn bit (no state income taxes there), not to mention any tax on game checks playing in Jax nor will he have to pay any state income tax when the team travels to play at division opponents Houston or Tennessee (as neither of those have state income tax). THAT'S A LOT OF DAMN SAVINGS OVER A 4-7 YEAR SPAN.

If Suh were to go to NY (Jets or Giants) this is what he'd paying in state income tax alone (bonuses, game checks etc.)

• 4 percent on the first $8,200 of taxable income.

• 4.5 percent on taxable income between $8,201 and $11,300.

• 5.25 percent on taxable income between $11,301 and $13,350.

• 5.9 percent on taxable income between $13,351 and $20,550.

• 6.45 percent on taxable income between $20,551 and $77,150.

• 6.65 percent on taxable income between $77,151 and $205,850.

• 6.85 percent on taxable income between $205,851 and $1,029,250.

• 8.82 percent on taxable income of more than $1,029,251.

If Suh went to Oak (or any Cali team).. just think of all that bonus $ and base salary getting the state income tax

• 1 percent on the first $7,582 of taxable income.
• 2 percent on taxable income between $7,583 and $17,976.
• 4 percent on taxable income between $17,977 and $28,371.
• 6 percent on taxable income between $28,372 and $39,384.
• 8 percent on taxable income between $39,385 and $49,774.
• 9.30 percent on taxable income between $49,775 and 254,250.
• 10.30 percent on taxable income between $254,251 and 305,100.
• 11.30 percent on taxable income between $305,101 and $508,500.
• 12.30 percent on taxable income of $508,501 and above.

A 1 percent surcharge, the Mental Health Services Tax, is collected on taxable incomes of $1 million or more, making California's highest marginal rate 13.30 percent.

This is just state income tax, not the 39.6% assessed for Fed Taxes on anything above 400k per yr

being a consummate businessman that he is, what would you do if you were in this quandary and had actual legitimate offers, nearly identical guaranteed money, from Det, NYJ, Oak and Jags...

Michigan's state income tax rate is 4.25%

Bottom line is the fact, should the Jags offer Suh a similar contract as any other team out there, strictly and solely from a financial perspective, Suh would be an absolute fool not to take the Jags deal, IMO. The 8 home games and two away division games gives him a total of 10 game checks free and clear of any state income tax not to mention all that bonus $$ not getting state income taxed.... it's a lot

 

[Dr. Evil-er]

One other obstacle that Suh might consider, is the fact Florida doesn't have any taxes assessed on state income, as well as the following states; Alaska, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. Tennessee does have a state tax when considering capital gains solely.

Now, stating this, my main point is that all players have to pay a state income tax on their game checks according to where those games are played (meaning states that do have a state income tax assessed), whether they are a resident of said state or not. Think about the $$$ issues at hand here. Suh is taxed, game check only mind you, for his 8 home games in Detroit, plus the 3 division away games, and any other state where those taxes are assessed.

If Suh were to go to the Jags, be a legal resident (homestead) there, all that signing bonus, roster bonus, workout bonus $$$ won't be taxed one damn bit (no state income taxes there), not to mention any tax on game checks playing in Jax nor will he have to pay any state income tax when the team travels to play at division opponents Houston or Tennessee (as neither of those have state income tax). THAT'S A LOT OF DAMN SAVINGS OVER A 4-7 YEAR SPAN.

If Suh were to go to NY (Jets or Giants) this is what he'd paying in state income tax alone (bonuses, game checks etc.)

• 4 percent on the first $8,200 of taxable income.

• 4.5 percent on taxable income between $8,201 and $11,300.

• 5.25 percent on taxable income between $11,301 and $13,350.

• 5.9 percent on taxable income between $13,351 and $20,550.

• 6.45 percent on taxable income between $20,551 and $77,150.

• 6.65 percent on taxable income between $77,151 and $205,850.

• 6.85 percent on taxable income between $205,851 and $1,029,250.

• 8.82 percent on taxable income of more than $1,029,251.

If Suh went to Oak (or any Cali team).. just think of all that bonus $ and base salary getting the state income tax

• 1 percent on the first $7,582 of taxable income.
• 2 percent on taxable income between $7,583 and $17,976.
• 4 percent on taxable income between $17,977 and $28,371.
• 6 percent on taxable income between $28,372 and $39,384.
• 8 percent on taxable income between $39,385 and $49,774.
• 9.30 percent on taxable income between $49,775 and 254,250.
• 10.30 percent on taxable income between $254,251 and 305,100.
• 11.30 percent on taxable income between $305,101 and $508,500.
• 12.30 percent on taxable income of $508,501 and above.

A 1 percent surcharge, the Mental Health Services Tax, is collected on taxable incomes of $1 million or more, making California's highest marginal rate 13.30 percent.

This is just state income tax, not the 39.6% assessed for Fed Taxes on anything above 400k per yr

being a consummate businessman that he is, what would you do if you were in this quandary and had actual legitimate offers, nearly identical guaranteed money, from Det, NYJ, Oak and Jags...

Michigan's state income tax rate is 4.25%

Bottom line is the fact, should the Jags offer Suh a similar contract as any other team out there, strictly and solely from a financial perspective, Suh would be an absolute fool not to take the Jags deal, IMO. The 8 home games and two away division games gives him a total of 10 game checks free and clear of any state income tax not to mention all that bonus $$ not getting state income taxed.... it's a lot

Spot on fucking awesome post.

 

[Rollingthndr]

One other obstacle that Suh might consider, is the fact Florida doesn't have any taxes assessed on state income, as well as the following states; Alaska, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. Tennessee does have a state tax when considering capital gains solely.

Now, stating this, my main point is that all players have to pay a state income tax on their game checks according to where those games are played (meaning states that do have a state income tax assessed), whether they are a resident of said state or not. Think about the $$$ issues at hand here. Suh is taxed, game check only mind you, for his 8 home games in Detroit, plus the 3 division away games, and any other state where those taxes are assessed.

If Suh were to go to the Jags, be a legal resident (homestead) there, all that signing bonus, roster bonus, workout bonus $$$ won't be taxed one damn bit (no state income taxes there), not to mention any tax on game checks playing in Jax nor will he have to pay any state income tax when the team travels to play at division opponents Houston or Tennessee (as neither of those have state income tax). THAT'S A LOT OF DAMN SAVINGS OVER A 4-7 YEAR SPAN.

If Suh were to go to NY (Jets or Giants) this is what he'd paying in state income tax alone (bonuses, game checks etc.)

• 4 percent on the first $8,200 of taxable income.

• 4.5 percent on taxable income between $8,201 and $11,300.

• 5.25 percent on taxable income between $11,301 and $13,350.

• 5.9 percent on taxable income between $13,351 and $20,550.

• 6.45 percent on taxable income between $20,551 and $77,150.

• 6.65 percent on taxable income between $77,151 and $205,850.

• 6.85 percent on taxable income between $205,851 and $1,029,250.

• 8.82 percent on taxable income of more than $1,029,251.

If Suh went to Oak (or any Cali team).. just think of all that bonus $ and base salary getting the state income tax

• 1 percent on the first $7,582 of taxable income.
• 2 percent on taxable income between $7,583 and $17,976.
• 4 percent on taxable income between $17,977 and $28,371.
• 6 percent on taxable income between $28,372 and $39,384.
• 8 percent on taxable income between $39,385 and $49,774.
• 9.30 percent on taxable income between $49,775 and 254,250.
• 10.30 percent on taxable income between $254,251 and 305,100.
• 11.30 percent on taxable income between $305,101 and $508,500.
• 12.30 percent on taxable income of $508,501 and above.

A 1 percent surcharge, the Mental Health Services Tax, is collected on taxable incomes of $1 million or more, making California's highest marginal rate 13.30 percent.

This is just state income tax, not the 39.6% assessed for Fed Taxes on anything above 400k per yr

being a consummate businessman that he is, what would you do if you were in this quandary and had actual legitimate offers, nearly identical guaranteed money, from Det, NYJ, Oak and Jags...

Michigan's state income tax rate is 4.25%

Bottom line is the fact, should the Jags offer Suh a similar contract as any other team out there, strictly and solely from a financial perspective, Suh would be an absolute fool not to take the Jags deal, IMO. The 8 home games and two away division games gives him a total of 10 game checks free and clear of any state income tax not to mention all that bonus $$ not getting state income taxed.... it's a lot

Long story short... State tax is trash.
Can't believe they have the AUDACITY to charge a state tax in Michigan. For what....
Extra snow in the winter, muggy summers, mosquitos and shitty factory jobs? lol

 

[gandydancer]

Thunder, where in the hell are you getting "muggy summers" for Michigan from? I lived there 14 years and never remember anything close to humidity as I know it from other regions.

 

[broncosmitty]

Thunder, where in the hell are you getting "muggy summers" for Michigan from? I lived there 14 years and never remember anything close to humidity as I know it from other regions.

It's one of the most humid states in the country May-September.

 

[gandydancer]

It's one of the most humid states in the country May-September.

Really? Are you serious right now? I need to bring you to the Gulf region in those months.

I remember running the A/C a few times a summer in MI. Hell, even Iowa is way worse than MI.

 

[gandydancer]

Go visit BIg Blue in June and tell me back home is worse.

 

[broncosmitty]

Really? Are you serious right now? I need to bring you to the Gulf region in those months.

I remember running the A/C a few times a summer in MI. Hell, even Iowa is way worse than MI.

Im not going anywhere near the Gulf Coast in the summer. Spent some time in South Carolina a few different Julys. Fuck that shit.

But MI's average daytime humidity is somewhere around 89-91% during the summer. Depends on where you are of course. Maybe northeast lower Michigan gets a little relief thanks to Lake Huron breezes, idk.

 

[broncosmitty]

Go visit BIg Blue in June and tell me back home is worse.

Back Home.... In GREEN-BOW-ALA-BAMA!

 

[gandydancer]

I even read that in my best Gump voice. Wife just shook her head at me.

 

[broncosmitty]

You didn't get a, "I love you Gandyyyy."?

 

[gandydancer]

Sure, if you replace asshole in there. speaking of that, if her calling me a ass is her way of showing affection to me. She is head of heels in love.

 

[gandydancer]

4pm tomorrow changes everything. I hope for no tag as I do not see how it works to benefit the future? Pretty sure once 4:01 strikes it starts the a new era of SUHless defense in Detroit.

I know we all want him to stay. I just don't see the Lions paying what he wants.

 

[gvsulaker82]

Suh tag shouldn't affect the future too much , only next year. I've been pretty sure for a while that suh has no desire to stay a lion or he would have signed a year ago.

 

[Naughtymax]

10 hours to go. If I were the GM I'd make my best offer and require a response by 3PM, so no tag so far indicates nothing.

I say unfortunately that Suh is a Jag or Raider and we get the third next year.

Then we drive to Greg Hardy's house.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Go visit BIg Blue in June and tell me back home is worse.

Back Home.... In GREEN-BOW-ALA-BAMA!

yep ! you guys have no idea what real humidity feels like, IMO. 90+ degree weather tagged with a 87+% humidity nearly every day in summertime. Gandy knows Louisiana is even worse than here in Gump-ville.

try it out sometime down here, you'll be miserable.

 

[RobBase]

I'm now officially a fan of _________. (Wherever Suh goes).

He deserves better than this dumpster fire.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

It's not over, Rob. Who knows if Suh even wants to stay a Detroit Lion. It goes both ways.

 

[Microwahevo]

It's not over, Rob. Who knows if Suh even wants to stay a Detroit Lion. It goes both ways.

Absolutely spot on. We can't sign a guy that doesnt wanna be here, and Mayhew said that he wasn't planning on signing him "at any cost". Tagging him would've put a huge financial hit on us this year, and to a guy that didn't want to be here if he didn't sign an extension.

 

[gandydancer]

Glad to see no tag. Now it comes down to it they spend the money wisely in FA? I have my doubts, but now does it mean they overpay a guy out of desperation? There will be a dropoff in talent with anyone they bring in. Bring in the right two guys and things can still work fine. Last I checked Suh was not on the other four teams in top 5 defenses.

So I will not have doom and gloom attitude with him gone, yet!