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Crimsoncrew

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I was basing that off of a lecture I once heard given by a Doctor who has an expert on addiction. I think it makes intuitive sense as well- aside from the physical problems it can create, that's one of the main problems with addiction: an uncontrollable behavior that leads to other problem behaviors regardless of the consequences one continually faces. Most reasonable people that have self control would probably cut out the drinking and driving after one DUI.

Also, I think it's a nice thought (Lord knows I've been there myself) that people should be given a free pass from alcoholism just because they are young or in college or not drinking every single day but I'm not sure it really works like that.

It is likely that there are people who fit the definition of alcoholics who don't drink every day. But there are also lots of people who drink socially and are foolish enough to drive afterward. Even after their first DUI. I drank pretty much every weekend in college, especially my senior year when I was injured and not participating in in sports. I wasn't close to what I think of as an alcoholic, and I certainly havent' struggled with addiction since that time.
 

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That said, people familiar with the situation think Aldon has a problem. I think the circumstances of the latest case suggest that. Second DUI, high BAC (especially for a guy his size), and particularly the timing: on a morning when he had to get to "work." That suggests a problem to me, not the second DUI alone.

That's a pretty bad sign, drunk in the morning before work.

Overheard a guy get fired in a restaurant at breakfast once. He came in a half hour late to meet a couple of his bosses; strike one. He was drunk: strike 2. He was driving a company car: strike 3.
 

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I doubt that Aldon is using at the moment. Give him a chance to redeem his name and get back on the field.
 

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If someone gets multiple DUIs it's a pretty safe bet that they are an alcoholic.

Or an NFL player, amirite?

Ridiculous....even for you.
 

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Ridiculous....even for you.

Cool story broseph. Care to offer something of substance or are you just following me around to troll yet again?

I've got a doctor whose name I can't remember from a talk in college, Dr. Drew, and the article below on my side. Whatchu got gramps? Keep in mind though I'm asking you to make a serious, well-reasoned argument. If you're just going to spew your typical senile racist bullshit you can kindly GTFO my good broseph.

Personality traits and behaviors of alcohol-impaired drivers: A comparison of first and multiple offenders
 

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Cool story broseph. Care to offer something of substance or are you just following me around to troll yet again?

I've got a doctor whose name I can't remember from a talk in college, Dr. Drew, and the article below on my side. Whatchu got gramps? Keep in mind though I'm asking you to make a serious, well-reasoned argument. If you're just going to spew your typical senile racist bullshit you can kindly GTFO my good broseph.

Personality traits and behaviors of alcohol-impaired drivers: A comparison of first and multiple offenders

I grew up with an alcoholic in my family and I know what alcoholism is. Its not a guy who likes to party and is too stupid not to drive when he is drunk. It is a full blown psychological desease that destroys the people who have it. Its not about liking to be drunk; not at all. Its very difficult to explain if you haven't had first hand experience with it.
 

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I grew up with an alcoholic in my family and I know what alcoholism is. Its not a guy who likes to party and is too stupid not to drive when he is drunk. It is a full blown psychological desease that destroys the people who have it. Its not about liking to be drunk; not at all. Its very difficult to explain if you haven't had first hand experience with it.

Ok. You basically stated that alcoholism is bad and different than partying. I don't think anyone was disputing that.

What does any of what you said have to do the disputed notion that someone with multiple DUIs is very likely to be an alcoholic?
 

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Ok. You basically stated that alcoholism is bad and different than partying. I don't think anyone was disputing that.

What does any of what you said have to do the disputed notion that someone with multiple DUIs is very likely to be an alcoholic?

Its too simplistic an answer. The vast, vast majority of drunks are not alcoholics.
 

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Aldon has obviously made some dumb choices in his life. If he is in fact an alcoholic, I'm glad he's getting help. Regardless he has a pattern of self destructive behavior and needs to address those issues. The bottom line is he's a young immature millionaire. It's easy for people to judge him based what is happened but I certainly can't say I would be the same stupid crap if I was in his shoes. Anyone who partied in college or high school or whenever probably would have some issues with alcohol and the law if they had the ability to be surrounded by whoever they wanted, buy whatever they wanted, drive fast cars whenever they wanted, etc...

I would guess that the majority of people who have drank heavily in their lifetime probably made poor choices while drunk. Some get caught, wreck, or worse, some don't. If I was a betting man, which I am, I would bet the house that sometime in the very near future Aldon Smith will be surrounded by a bevy of beautiful women with champagne flowing like a river. For his sake, and the sake of the teams and it's fans, I just hope he makes the decision to find someone too drive his ass home or wherever he needs too be, and for the love of God, don't head out to practice passed out drunk.
 

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Who is he to say that Aldon Smith is ready or not?

I'm sure the 9ers did and will due their due diligence before they put him out there to play. Even if you just look at it completely from a football perspective Smith is a long term investment for them and they aren't going to jeopardize that for the sake of this year.

Also being back into football could be a good thing for him not necessarily a bad thing. I get the pressure angle of it but on the flip side I would think you would want to keep him busy and focused on positive things that he has in his life which one of them is playing football. Like the old saying idle hands are the devil's tools it could be a bad thing to keep him out of the loop and on the sidelines.

And from the football angle it seems like people are buying waaaayy too much into our winning streak. Don't get me wrong it's great that we're winning and not just winning but being focused while doing it but none of the teams we've beaten are likely to make the playoffs. Just because we're winning now doesn't mean we don't need Aldon Smith.
 

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I'm convinced he's clean.......that goofy haircut is GONE. No sober person would think that was a good look.
 

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Who is he to say that Aldon Smith is ready or not?

I'm sure the 9ers did and will due their due diligence before they put him out there to play. Even if you just look at it completely from a football perspective Smith is a long term investment for them and they aren't going to jeopardize that for the sake of this year.

Also being back into football could be a good thing for him not necessarily a bad thing. I get the pressure angle of it but on the flip side I would think you would want to keep him busy and focused on positive things that he has in his life which one of them is playing football. Like the old saying idle hands are the devil's tools it could be a bad thing to keep him out of the loop and on the sidelines.

And from the football angle it seems like people are buying waaaayy too much into our winning streak. Don't get me wrong it's great that we're winning and not just winning but being focused while doing it but none of the teams we've beaten are likely to make the playoffs. Just because we're winning now doesn't mean we don't need Aldon Smith.



Purdy also wrote this as well: Purdy: Letting 49ers' Aldon Smith play this season would be a bad idea - San Jose Mercury News
 

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well thank god they gave him a haircut in there
 

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A third down specialist in Sunday's game perhaps?
 

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Guess who's back??? :eyebrows:

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Good for Aldon.

Say both teams make the playoffs and both advance to 2nd round.

I'm a little torn on who I want the Seahawks to face.
It really shouldn't matter, because whoever plays the best that day deserves to win, but my Seahawks just need to take care of business, but as mentioned, I'm not sure I want to see SF again.

That said, you have had struggles this year, but they seem to be gone now, in words of awareness from 9er fans, Don't peak too early.:hope:
 

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Good for Aldon.

Say both teams make the playoffs and both advance to 2nd round.

I'm a little torn on who I want the Seahawks to face.
It really shouldn't matter, because whoever plays the best that day deserves to win, but my Seahawks just need to take care of business, but as mentioned, I'm not sure I want to see SF again.

That said, you have had struggles this year, but they seem to be gone now, in words of awareness from 9er fans, Don't peak too early.:hope:

Well it's looking to me like Seattle's gonna get either the Saints or Panthers because I don't expect the Niners to lose in the next couple of weeks, and the Saints & Panthers play each other. As long as the Rams don't blow it, the Niners will probably be the 5 seed.
 

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Imagine... just for a second because its a pretty big longshot. But imagine Seattle loses the last two and the 49ers win the next two games.

:laugh3: That would be pretty funny. 49ers take the division on a 7 game win streak and seattle goes into the playoffs as a wildcard after losing three of their last four....

Well, I can dream can't I?

As I recall the tiebreaker goes first to head to head, then to divisional wins I believe.
 
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